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Snooker discussion: Putting topspin on a cueball
Snooker discussion: Putting topspin on a cueball
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If topspin was applied in the example.
The white ball would be further down the table( as top spin would give it more momentum in spin) on the second attempt. If the blue ball finishes identical to the first shot. |
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Angel Gabriel i only go by experimental evidence..that has served science well so far
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you are missing the point the white hs been hit softer
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If the white has been hit softer then the blue ball will never reach position (a)
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how many times must i suggest that for the blue to finish in the same position the white may have been hit softer with the topspin compensating
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If topspin was available it would not effect the blue balls momentum. The blue ball would still slide on contact and then motion would transfer into forward roll.
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I kind of got there straight away!
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LFC.
A cueball doesn't spin in the same direction it is rolling, at least not when struck with a cuetip anyway. Most players and coaches believe that it does actually overspin. The test I have presented with the blue ball proves my point. |
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Bottom line is that if possible to put top spin on the white, that topspin would not transfer topspin to the blue.
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LFC.
The topspin does not compensate for anything. There is no topspin. |
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Pokermaster
you may be correct,maybe not but you test with the blue ball is flawed and can not prove such |
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I would imagine if anything it would transfer backspin, but that effect would be reversed when the blue hit the cushion.
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And even if there was topspin it would transfer topspin to the object ball to give it extra energy of motion.
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LFC.
The test is sound, sir. I guess we will just have to disagree. |
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Angel Gabriel
with respect sir we are not talking about transfering topspin to the blue ..only force |
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the reverse surely. Think of cogs.
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Yes Clunge. My thoughts were the same that it could transfer drag to the object ball, but in reality the object ball will just slide for most of it`s journey finishing with forward roll.
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with respect sir we are not talking about transfering topspin to the blue ..only force
Force can only be transferd through ball to ball power. Or a screw shot with a screw shot with the help of timing. |
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And follow through^^^
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LFC.
The cueball is rolling, just rolling and nothing else no matter how much one tries to apply topspin. If the blue ball lands in the same place on two seperate occasions, then both times the cueball must have struck it with equal force. |
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* separate.
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There's only one way we can solve this. Get our balls out, attempt a screw, and see if we follow though.
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Pokermaster
i agree,but how hard has the cue ball been struck? |
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LFC.
It doesn't matter, sir, that is an arbitrary event. |
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Providing, of course, one doesn't strike it so hard that the cueball is sliding when it strikes the blue.
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Or airborne.
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but how hard the cue ball is struckis directly related to where the blue finishes
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i maintain that your ex. does not allow for the cue ball being struck softer the second time with topspin
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Naturally, but as long as you repeat the action consistantly (the blue landing in the same place) then the test is sound.
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Naturally, but as long as you repeat the action consistently (the blue landing in the same place) then the test is sound.
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it may even be to get the blue ball to finish inthe same place you have to strike it softer the 2nd time
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strike the cue ball i mean of course
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The blue ball finishing in the same place ensures that the white has struck the blue with equal force, LFC.
I fail to see how you cannot understand this, sir. It really does look like you are pulling my leg. |
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Let me be clear: a player would not be striking the cueball softer on the second strike. If you believe this to be the case, sir, then I am afraid you are mistaken.
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yes i have not disagreed with you on that point,i feel you are now being disingenous. It is how hard the cue hits the white ball i am suggesting that your experiment does not allow for
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sorry i do disagree when yousay the cue ball has not been struck softer just because the blue finishes in the same place. This is not necessarily so
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I am not being disingenuous. I specifically addressed that very point in my last post.
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you have not addressed what allowance the experiment makes for the ball being struck softer the second time
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LFC wrote:
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i will recap..i suggest that there is a possibility that in order for the blue to finish in the same place the 2nd time,if the player applys topspin he must hit it softer than the first time otherwise the blue will go further
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