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By:
Ballydoyle
When: 19 Dec 13 19:25
Apache Stronghold had Carberry sitting up wondering what he was gonna have for his dinner that night. Never even got to the hands n heels stage...Carberry didnt even move man
By:
buddeliea
When: 19 Dec 13 19:26
ok mate,we may read it a bit differently.
Anyway,they are both players in whats still early days for a novice hurdle at the festival.
Just think the prices are not reflective of what ive seen.
By:
Arklearkle
When: 19 Dec 13 19:26
Noel Meades record in the festival novice hurdles is probably only bettered by the big three. While Apache Strongehold looked impressive the last day he previously barely scraped home against Clonard Lad who started at 8/1 a price which tells us how he rates amongst the WM novices. Besides we dont really know how much AS had in hand the last day as PCs rides can be quite deceptive. At 12/1 Faugheen is value  .
By:
Arklearkle
When: 19 Dec 13 19:26
Noel Meades record in the festival novice hurdles is probably only bettered by the big three. While Apache Strongehold looked impressive the last day he previously barely scraped home against Clonard Lad who started at 8/1 a price which tells us how he rates amongst the WM novices. Besides we dont really know how much AS had in hand the last day as PCs rides can be quite deceptive. At 12/1 Faugheen is value  .
By:
alleged22
When: 19 Dec 13 19:29
that's the thing I don,t like with carberry, straight legs arse up in the air, I love it when he goes from cruise control to that rowing motion like he,s being swept off a waterfall in a dinghy
By:
buddeliea
When: 19 Dec 13 19:30
That's cos Apache is improving, as I imagine most novices are.Best to look at the latest form imo.
Watching that race he had plenty in hand to my eyes.
By:
sintonian
When: 19 Dec 13 20:46
Apache improved a ton for his debut run so I wouldn't hold the form down with the horse in 2nd that day tbh.

Alleged, Azorian hung around the bend badly against Briar Hill and must have lost a good few lengths.

Bally, you're quite partial to an aftertime or two aint ya?!
By:
Tory
When: 19 Dec 13 21:57
This got interesting today!! He def doesn't deserve to be 8/1 based on what he's achieved over hurdles so a decent chunk of his price must be on reputation. As someone who took a punt before his first run this season I am please laddies have dropped from so high to so low as it either means they know something, or there has been some decent money for him when they were standout. I am anxiously waiting with bated breath for his next race.
By:
alleged22
When: 19 Dec 13 23:17
he did sint but he hardly lost momentum

fwiw I think AS would beat BH, but BH would make him work for it and he,d be in a battle.

I just think faugheen has that pace that would get AS  off the bridal 2 out plus has that stamina to see him off easy.

I doubt AS will meet faugheen before the Neptune so this is all academic really lol Laugh
By:
Arklearkle
When: 19 Dec 13 23:44
AS wont meet Faugheen before then as he will probably get another sore toe or something!
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 20 Dec 13 00:04
I forgot you have to prove everything up front so Sintonian you can catch my tips on an alternative thread in advance.not got time to traipse through previous threads clearly highlighting that Pont Alexandre had no chance in Neptune and to get on The New One and Rule The World
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 20 Dec 13 00:25
In fact if you have a spare minute Sintonian you will find on page 6 under "Pont Alexandre-whats he beat?" started by myself you will see my arguments for Rule The World at 12/1 and The New One at 16/1.top 2 in Neptune with the good thing pumped in 3rd...alas...this year I've my views up on stevo1s thread a good few months before the event just so there is no confusion. Wink
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 20 Dec 13 00:34
In fact took a minute to read through all the threads and I was worried about The new one gettin home over 2m5f...shows how much I know.Lump on FaugheenWhoops
By:
buddeliea
When: 20 Dec 13 07:41
The threads this year have been a lot better than previous years-lot less stupid arguments.
Be nice to keep it that way imo.
By:
festivalfanatic
When: 20 Dec 13 08:47
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The threads this year have been a lot better than previous years-lot less stupid arguments.

Oh no they're not!!Mischief
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 20 Dec 13 09:13
....and you can shut your 'kin mouth too!

Wink
By:
alleged22
When: 20 Dec 13 09:15
Laugh
By:
buddeliea
When: 20 Dec 13 12:06
Laugh
By:
Slabster
When: 20 Dec 13 14:37
Faugheen's only entry next week is over three miles at Limerick... Those of us who've backed him for the Neptune are being put through the ringer already Cry
By:
Tory
When: 20 Dec 13 15:54
Indeed! Mullins does have about half the field though so just have to hope he's not declared
By:
alleged22
When: 24 Dec 13 16:11
CryCry
By:
sj
When: 24 Dec 13 17:02
Whats wrong alleged?
By:
alleged22
When: 24 Dec 13 17:08
entered over 3 miles  looks like my Neptune bet is now down the swanney
By:
sj
When: 24 Dec 13 17:11
I wouldnt panic yet mate. Think Brair Hills price for the 3 miler tells us more
By:
Tory
When: 24 Dec 13 19:20
Are confirmations out for sat at Limerick yet? Surely he's better than a 3m grade 3 there!
By:
festivalfanatic
When: 24 Dec 13 19:41
Hold your hat tory. Vautour, who looked mighty impressive in an egg and spoon maiden hurdle race over 2 miles last time is also entered! I'd be surprised if either of them take up this option but in the wider scheme of things, the trip means precious little. I'm still not convinced that Faugheen isn't their Supreme horse.Confused
By:
Tory
When: 24 Dec 13 19:58
If with you festival (think I posted so when early entires came out) but alleged's reaction made me think he was confirmed. From what I can tell, WPM has 7 entries  so doubt Faugheen would run
By:
Tory
When: 24 Dec 13 20:00
Meant to say 'I'm with you festival'! On iPhone and unless anyone knows better, can only view this through safari and isn't ideal for writing. Need a community app!
By:
alleged22
When: 24 Dec 13 20:16
i hope he doesn't so he dream is still alive...
By:
alleged22
When: 24 Dec 13 20:17
*the
By:
Tory
When: 27 Dec 13 11:40
Erm, looks like he is running at Limerick tomorrow!
By:
BJG
When: 27 Dec 13 12:04
Yup - 3m tomoz on heavy ground Crazy
By:
BJG
When: 27 Dec 13 12:05
LIMERICK, Saturday, 28th December 2013    Listing generated on 27-DEC-13 at 11:13   
(1:35) 346C Liberty Insurance Novice H'dle (Grade 3) €18,525.00 ( 3m - 4yo+ )[MAX 18]   
No     Horse    Owner    Trainer    Rider    Wgt
1     Lots Of Memories(129)    Mrs Siobhain Fahey    (PGFahey)    Shane Butler    11,06
2     The Job Is Right (GB)(126)    Mrs. Mary Devine    (MHourigan)    APHeskin(B)    11,06
3     Faugheen    Mrs S Ricci    (WPMullins)    .    11,03
4     Azorian(139)    Gigginstown House Stud    (EGriffin)    MPFogarty    11,00
5     Kilbarry Beauty(121)    Mrs Con O'Keeffe    (JEKiely)    Niall P. Madden    10,07
6     Royal Moll    Hibo Syndicate    (WPMullins)    .    10,07
7     The Housekeeper    T.J. Hayes    (DHKelly)    Mark Enright(H)    10,07
By:
Tory
When: 27 Dec 13 12:49
Seems a strange move to me - unless simply looking to get more experience into him before tackling better races.
By:
deepingfox
When: 27 Dec 13 19:41
Proper test tomorrow with AZORIAN in opposition.  If FAUGHEEN wins this by 10-20 lengths again, then we will know that he is a machine.  Hope he goes for Neptune, as I have him in Trixie at 16s, but also have him 12/1 to win at the Festival.
By:
Graeme83
When: 27 Dec 13 19:43
It shows you what i know. I thought Faugheen was a Neptune horse, and said to myself he'd be more likely for the supreme (on less than good ground) than the 3 miler.
By:
BJG
When: 27 Dec 13 19:50
Same as most people - myself included!

Think Azorian could put it right up to him tomorrow - av him to win any race at least but would av said AB last of the 3!
By:
Tory
When: 27 Dec 13 19:59
Same as all above - had him down as Neptune with running in supreme being the main danger. Gutted as have a nice Neptune position but hasn't drifted for that race on here yet which is a bit interesting
By:
quantize
When: 27 Dec 13 20:00
Will still go Neptune I think
By:
sj
When: 27 Dec 13 20:32
Wllie Mullins roulette CrazyCrazyCrazyCrazyCrazy The only good thing is Briar Hill has again been punted for the AB today
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