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Sprinter Sacre - Arkle Winner 2012
Sprinter Sacre - Arkle Winner 2012
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Interesting that SS apparently didnt get home but nobody is questioning Cue Card getting up the hill both were going as well as each other when both went for it between the last and line SS put another half a length between them
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For the last several years there has been a negative stat in the Arkle (from Paul Jones) - he has been very negative on front runners and Tizzard has already said he intends to front run. Great news for Sprinter, just hope Tizzard can go fast enough
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judo you clearly state " I now have him at least a stone clear on 175 to 161 for the next best , and how did you come to this magical figure, oh he beat a couple of handicappers fairly easily. but french opera is a grade 2 winner i hear you say, in name only look at those races, very weak affairs beating handicappers...
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whatever, I know what I am doing and we will let the horses do the talking in a weeks time - I have explained what my figures mean to me so that's all there is to say. The horse has the potential to be a 175 horse and I will defend that opinion always
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SS two runs on underlating track twice beaten Chelt and ascot,think we'll fnd that this is flat course speed horse, Al ferof all the way for me,
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i also believe he has the potential to achieve that figure believe me, but he,s way shy of it at the moment...
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I think you will find that Al Ferof is a slow poke stayer that really needs at least 2 miles 5 furlongs already and that Sprinter Sacre will turn out to be the next superstar chaser and win many Grade 1s over the next 3 or 4 seasons
we will have to wait to find out which one of our opinions is more accurate Denman |
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what do you not understand about the word "potential" then Alleged? FFS I have stated loads of times the rating is PEAK potential ie what he could achieve, clearly not what he has achieved because he has never been asked for MAXIMUM effort yet
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thats why he won the supreme over 2m? nothing slow about that, hes got form against top horses were as SS form is with handicappers, SS has it all to prove around chelt, Al ferof has already proved he loves the hill!
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slow poke stayer
 get a grip. |
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I remember Binocular not getting up the hill twice and then pis sing the Champion Hurdle. Not like SS back pedalled quickly or anything.
Ascot Undulating track  |
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Bino never failed to get home at Cheltenham.
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That is what people said though budd. "He doesnt get up the hill" was used many many times
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yeh i remember mate,and they were wrong
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ascots uphill all the way to the finish, SJ ur lack of knowledge is showing, dont remember binocular ever failing to get up the hill
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yeah he,ll prob get your magical 175 when it wins next years CC, but it gets stuffed this year by a slow poke stayer
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Uphill yes, undulating no. It maybe your lack of knowledge which is showing my friend but the arguement of Binocular doesnt get up the Cheltenham hill was used many many times
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still cant believe he said that,stupid thing to say,especially about a horse thats won the top 2m novice hurdle.
Horse dont deserve that. |
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was used by idiots, binoculars never ran a bad race at the festival, when he was beaten was only by 1/2 length in CH, and he also kept on in the supreme
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ruby was scrubbing al ferof 5 out in last years supreme novices and also he was at him half way through the race at newbury against sommersby! clearly wants at least 2m5f
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he keeps winning at 2m though.
its about where they are at the finish not halfway!! he will go further next season i would think,but connections feel that 2m is for him in his novice year,who are we to say they are wrong? particularly when you look at his form at 2m. |
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paddy, u say against somersby assive hes a bad horse, he aint, grade 1 winner, and placed in tons of other grade 1's
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he was well beaten at newbury couldnt get 2 miles on flat track there! most horses who win the supreme novices tend to be more stayers than be bred for lightning 2 mile arkle ss is all speed and if the pace is what joe tizzard says it will be ss will settle even better!
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im not saying somersbys a bad horse but how many races does he actually win? not many placed in tons yes!
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paddy he was well beaten by good horses, hes a novice at the end of the day ffs!
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Have to agree Al Ferof will/should be going over further. I remain convinced the Sprinter will laugh at these, which doesn't make them bad horses. They could be up against an absolute freak of nature.
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ye but there is a slight difference in quality to the races that sommersby has won/ placed in, than any off the races SS has ever won! any idiot can see this surely?
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barry geraghty has gone on record saying he thinks ss is better than moscow! thats very brave considering how good moscow was!
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"Barry Geraghty rode Moscow Flyer and he seems to think that Sprinter Sacre is in a different league"
I think he might have been on the wind up there. Come on... that is just hyping. |
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Al Ferof was beat by Somersby at Ascot, not Newbury.
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all im saying is he'll be at it 3 or 4 out like every race he runs in and barry will be swinging on it! 11-4 is way too short he should be around 10's
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sorry ascot still flat track
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it's no Cheltenham but wouldn't call the finishing straigh flat
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paddy 1983u r a blithering idiot, al ferof form is rock solid, been running in grade 1's/ SS form is weak as piss, been running against no hopers, henderson took the easy opition since SS defeat in the supreme, getting confidence back, Al ferof since then has won another grade 1, and place against seasoned campaginers, i no whose form is the strongest, and SS dont like the hill finish, beaten twice at chelt ascot both up hill
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have you lost your marbles he bet peddlers 10 lengths on bridle peddlers couldnt live with him peddlers beaten length in champion last season to hurricane fly! surely thats the best form on offer albeit over hurdles where is peddlers now? running scared of him went for jewson! put that in your pipe and smoke it!
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what price you back al ferof at?
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8/1, did he beat Peddlers around cheltenham like?? thought not form is irrellevant, sprinter is yet to prove he likes anything but a flat track
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By: This user is online. denman85
Date Joined: 11 Jan 11 Add contact | Send message When: 06 Mar 12 18:05 Joined: Date Joined: 11 Jan 11 | Topic/replies: 571 | Blogger: denman85's blog paddy 1983u r a blithering idiot, al ferof form is rock solid, been running in grade 1's/ SS form is weak as piss, been running against no hopers, henderson took the easy opition since SS defeat in the supreme, getting confidence back, Al ferof since then has won another grade 1, and place against seasoned campaginers, i no whose form is the strongest, and SS dont like the hill finish, beaten twice at chelt ascot both up hill To be fair denman85,we heard all that rubbish talk last year from the idiot Cue Card backers,how he clearly had the best from as he had a race with seasoned campaginers in a grade 1 and look how that worked out,that does not make him the best horse with the best form,it just states that he ran against his elders when others had not,you dont know what SS would have achieved if he had been aimed at the game spirit |
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sorry 16 lenghts the time he was bet at ascot was over 2m4f nicky has said he has grown up and is a much stronger horse the hill will be no problem!!!
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nicky henderson to be fair is not 1 to hype up a horse! and he has described this horse as a freak! and geraghty cant wipe the smile off his face every time he sits on him!ye well we all know joe tizzard barelys knows his arse from his elbow! when would that lot know a good horse from a potential champion one!
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