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... back to the Arkle and from Boxing Day some really informative trials coming up.
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Quite liked Blackstairmountain to make out to be a top novice chaser but Willie Mullins is keen on giving him another season over hurdles instead I think Flat Out could be a decent sort in this division..''He's a four time winner-two bumpers and two hurdle races. He's been keen in some of his races, racing with the choke out, but he has plenty of ability. He goes novice chasing and you would imagine that if he takes to jumping fences well then two miles should suit him and help him make an impact in good races.''
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I posted on the first page that Flat Out could be very interesting - no sign of him running yet though, although he started fairly late last season as well.
Kirk / Eric - I have said freely on many of the threads that you have particiapted in that you clearly have plenty of knowledge of the history and patterns involved in the antepost racing world - and I'll reiterate that again here. I don't think anyone is debating that. However that wealth of knowledge applies equally to many other posters on here (me included I'm afraid whatever you want to say) and just like the rest of us you don't always get it right - but for some reason you get very defensive about this, and then so aggresive when you get it right, or someone else gets it wrong (see Royal Charm above) that you do yourself no favours. And now you are apparently unwilling to actually tell us what you fancy, which together with your infamous ablity to aftertime, is just laughable. You claim other posters are driven by bets, but your massive threads on Zaynar and Steinbeck were classic examples of someone refusing to believe what was in front of their eyes and clinging to a position they had already taken. Though of course you can still cling to your belief that Steinbeck would have won the Guineas but for Ballydoyles breeding priorities getting in the way ![]() You mention Menorah 'is the real deal' so does that mean you have a large bet on it - and if it dosen't win the CH will you accept you got it wrong, instead of blaming Phillip Hobbs, Dickie Johnson or anyone else (Ballydoyle, The Catholic Church, Simon Cowell?) of messing it up for you. For what it's worth, I feel Menorah is the best British hope right now, but as with many recent years they all seem 'much of a muchness' and if there is a horse who is simply different class to the rest (another Istabraq, Sea Pigeon etc) then it is Hurricane Fly, so I very much hope he can get there in 100% condition so we can find out. Oh and in case you forgot Makfi won the 2,000 Guineas!! Still as you say - back to the Arkle. Just hope we get some racing over Christmas. |
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I dont think it is much worth posting on here as the quality of insight with a couple of exceptions is very poor and driven by bets rather than logic. My logic on Zaynar was correct he would have won the previous years Champion Hurdle with the mysteriously below par Binocular in behind that year. I got it right with him the only mistake I made was Khyber Kim on the ground/course when the trainer had said it was a training regime change.
Also got it right on StNick against the crowd, Kauto star evening before Gold Cup due to the ground/undulating track laying off 5 figures because of this as I know the horse so well now, again against the crowd, Menorah with clear statements re his match up with Cue Card, Royal Charm the list goes on and I still have to put up with idiots like you annoyed when I get it right. I have the balls to back my opinion with bets not arbs like you, your opinion carries no weight as you dont risk your money but see it fit to have a dig at those that do because they are better at it than you. I have outstanding positions at the moment on flat and jumps but wont be revealing them on here no matter how much I am goaded. You guessers should just be pleased to read my objective opinions I certainly have nothing to prove to anyone on here I have got it right so many times in the past. Your turn lets see you put none arbs up there to be shot at. |
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Agree Unclepuncle.
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As for Boxing Day, lets hope we get some decent weather, it's not looking good.
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I really think you guys should just add him to the forum blocker. Seriously the more people we get to do it the less his drivel will clog up threads. Why has this Arkle thread become about him, blocking him is not enough when you guys continue to be drawn into arguments with him.
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^How do I get him blocked? I went into the account options but other than finding a tab about block bidders (it just says I don't currently have any) I couldn't find away of adding him. The quicker I manage to add him the better
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click on his name, and then at the top of the page you click on block user. You have to use forum beta for this to work. You can see when he posts but it blocks out the drivel he spouts. It's a must to be fair. Does anyone who posts on here not think he's a complete tool? We need to get as many people to block him as possible and maybe he f**k off and stop posting on here.
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^ Thanks - shame it dosen't completely remove his presence from the thread but it's better than nothing
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True it'd be better if it made him vanish. But still it's better than nothing. Only thing is people still give him the time of the day and hence threads get destroyed by him even though I've him blocked. Need to get more people to join the block.
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MdH going for 2m chase. Could be end of thread this.
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Link?
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If you read between the lines, previous quotes, you will know which race he will be going for imo and recent events dont change that.
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Not going to reveal it on here mind am going to keep Mullins guessing up until the day.
![]() Mind you his jumping at speed is still under question ... if you dont conquer that Carvills Hill and the like let you know he has a lot to prove in that department and it could see him winning nowt. |
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http://www.irishracing.com/cards/v5card093201012301430.htm
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.http://www.irishracing.com/cards/v5card093201012301430.htm
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ffs betfair, stop truncating the link!!
Entered in 2m Chase at Leops on 30/12 |
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The 2m Grade race he was enetered for in recent days was abandoned putting Mullins on the spot re the Fort Cheney entry once it was abandoned ... hilarious I just dont understand why he is going so far out of his way to keep punters in the dark when he knows which race he is say 80% sure to go for at the Festival?
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I changed my mind
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Very nice there from Ghizao, pleased with the "nibble" i had on him after his first run
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same, took 12/1, wrote on here a few pages back. cheltenham win was so underrated.
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BOOM giving 10lbs and a beating to good horses there Ghizao hope you took my advice. Now 6s the Arkle which is a very good price for those not already on.
eric_morris Date Joined: 27 Jun 10 Add contact | Send message When: 27 Nov 10 08:56 lol booster, I didnt read the jockeys blog it was somebody else. I think Ghizao is the best we've seen so far, he has won a really competitive race at the course this season, will love day one Cheltenham ground, has the right connections, jumps really well upreserving energy nlike most we have seen and has a v good natural speed for 2m and an excellent kick. I am expecting further developments for the Arkle though and it isnt prospective stayer and your bet in the race Spirit River. |
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FR smashed Ghizao in the Neptune,and as FR has proved he can jump fine,then see no reason for Ghizao to beat him next time they meet.
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Was it only me that saw the promise of his run behind kilmurry then? [:p]
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It was the hottest Arkle trial so far ...
By: This user is online. eric_morris Date Joined: 27 Jun 10 Add contact | Send message When: 05 Dec 10 13:14 Noble Prince looks an ideal candidate for the new 2m 4f chase he seems to lack that bit of toe when it matters for an Arkle horse. He has run well over 3m over hurdles and seems to have a preference for slower ground. None of these good signs for an Arkle imo. Captain Chris who was mentioned in the first post on this thread ran v well in the hottest Arkle trial so far for me. He will improve a lot for better ground and that first outing over fences where we already know he jumps well. A strong run Arkle on faster ground will suit him down to the ground where he will travel better and forge on strongly to the line. The first day at the Festival is good/soft but a bit quicker than the Cheltenham trial which will make things interesting between him and Ghizao, who also likes good/soft come March. |
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Looks like Ruby Walsh could be right relating Ghizao to a young Well Chief, reminds me of Well Chief also the way he travels and finishes as well as his build ... he is excellent over fences leaving his hurdle form well behind. Just what you look for in an Arkle horse.
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i've taken 1pt eachway just now at 7/1.
already have 0.5pt win on FR at 33/1 and same for Royal Charm which wont run. |
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btw eric, you let yourself down with ''your advice'' by not stipulating whether or not you are backing.
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Very soft at Newbury today imo. 7mm of rain this week.
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sintonian, you advised Royal Charm (which I advised against re his campaigning pattern), I advised Ghizao was the best seen so far which was a good indicator on who is a clueless guesser and who has 3 decades of clued up experience antepost. Ta ta keep guessing and talking a good game lad.
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By the way I thought you had blocked me ... would be a good idea imo so you dont have to read my advice.
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Haven't seen the race but don't see why another beating of Captain Chris (who I've never considered to be a realistic Arkle candidate) is worthy of cutting him to 4/1.
Again, as with Finnians, if you have some nice a/p prices well done but don't see any appeal in backing him now. |
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Gave him 10 pounds this time uncle.
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Sint - why don't you just block Eic - best thing I've done:
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Yes please block me along with CVByrne and sintonian, I would prefer discussions with people who have a clue. Hope the rest of you took my hint Ghizao was the best seen so far and his trial at Chelts was the best so far. Am not a tipster but will help out with my knowledge with others.
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eric, you ''advised'' after the Trainer had told us all he would not be going. Four weeks after his chase debut is the date of your post.
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Uncle, I dont rate CC either. He improved loads in a very short space of time last season, and he has had breathing problems this season. Throw in the fact he is much better going right handed aswell then it is not hard to see why he got beat again today.
But i've backed Ghuzao now eachway given we know he'll go straight there (wont be 7/1 on the day), has course form and jumps great. I dont actually mind saying whether or not I am bbacking something, like yourself. |
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Sint - I agree that Ghizao has the best form in the book, and given the lack of obvious contenders 7/1 e/w is a fair shout, but he has never struck me as being absolutley top class - obviously he may not need to be as so far there is little really impressive 2m novice chase form on offer. Looking at the betting on here there are only about 4 horses who look to have a serious chance imo.
The weather forecast looks pretty good for the next few weeks so hopefully some of the other leading contenders (Mikael D'Haugenet, Finnians, Noble Prince etc) can show their hands. |
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Not sure why Ghizao is still 7/1 should be 7/2 in my opinion. Loosen My Load came here big reputation and got thrashed. Captain Chris is rated by Hobbs thrashed twice. Radium and Surfing rated by henderson both thrashed. Last season Ghizao was going well in the very strong Neptune until his breathing caused him issues.
Operation in the summer jumps like a buck. Biggest yard in the country don't want any other runners in the Arkle. Nicholls said after Chelters he did a brilliant piece of work with Master Minded and was finally showing what they thought he could do. Go on Sporting life racing video form watch the chelts race but listen to the interview after. 7/1 is the best value you'll find. Each way probably ten runners max this is not going to last long. |