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Sires and the going
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Hopefully you laid Plume tlp?
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yes red i laid plume but i was still a wee bit dissapointed with striking spirits showing i thought he was better than that.everything was in his favour dont know what to make of him now.
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Good in his class tlp. I'm starting to use this approach more in my betting with older handicappers. Speed, going, class and trainer are my guidelines now.
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any thoughts on longchamp today red .
if they are calling the ground good you can bet youre bottom dollar that it will be at least good to firm. |
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ive had a very small bet on bluster in the sprint .
yhink it will like the ground. |
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i think its safe to say the ground is on the quick side at longchamp after benbauns performance.
although that will suit special duty ithink joanna will be equally suited to the fast ground. the perfectly drawn joanna is my selection here. any thoughts guys. |
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Sorry mate I was out, just seen the replay. I backed Joanna who held every chance but wasn't good enough and Rosanara who I think may well have won but for being hampered badly. May get a place yet but not great.
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they reckon the winner will defo get thrown out
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agree about rossanara she is screaming out for a trip and
was in season before the race as well . prix de diane for this one. |
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the going looks like being on the fast side for the 2.000 guineas on saturday if that is the case the horses who will be most suited to these conditions are .
steinbeck xtension noll wallop . the last named is particularly intereting as his form is on soft/heavy but i feel he won his race despite the going and not because . i cant make my mind up about fencing master as to what ground suits him best any thoughts guys. |
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Of those three I'd have though Steinbeck would be best suited on sire form though fitness has to be guessed at. Footsteps has a clear preference for faster ground I think.
I do think the way Canford Cliffs has run the horse prefers a little give, that was my theory on why it hung at Newbury last time anyway. I am his biggest fan but wouldn't be rushing to back him on Saturday on fast ground. |
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canford is screaming out for some cut red hannon has finally sussed that out as he said he wouldnt run it on fast ground .
they wont water much either as it wont suit the obrien horse just think back to mastercraftsman when the ground was brick hard for the irish guineas and they didnt put a drop on and bolger was furious. |
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18.28.
of course i mean henrythenavigator not mastercraftsman. sorry about that. |
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have to give striking spirit another chance 3.40 muss.
hope the drop in trip helps but not positive it will. as for the derby having already backed sna i am banking on johnny getting it wrong again and have went for midas touch to recoup.any thoughts guys. |
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When asked which horse he'd want to ride, Fallon said Midas Touch. He was impressed with the time and performance in the Derrinstown.
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st leger for midas touch imo never handled track and screaming out for farther.
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marchand dor looks nailed on now it has some cut in the ground.
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shocker from the jock.
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You're not wrong there, the jockey was looking round and to the side whilst the front runners opened up the lead
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age of aquarius for me today in the gold cup will love the fast ground and the trip imo any thoughts guys.
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i think murtagh may have picked the wrong one today .
MIDAS TOUCH E/W for me to-day . this stiffer gallopind track will be right up his street imo . any opinions on this. |
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Didn't see this tlp, sorry.
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As long as there is firm in the going descripton i think SPECIAL DUTY is the one to be on today .i am sure we have not seen the best of her yet i also think it wont matter how the race is run as she has bags of toe and also stays well . anyone like anything else.
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nap of the day is high standing cant see what can stop him.
the likely fast pace will be right up his street the first 4 in the betting would probably prefer faster ground but i dont think it is too bad and at least he has acted on softish ground well before i think the very slow times at newbury are partly to do with running into a headwind.any other fancies guys. |
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3.40 the curragh REMEMBER WHEN had this one on my mind for this race the minute they passed the post at epsom this easier ground will be right up her street.
5.00 tipperary IMPERSONATOR the more rain they get the better for this one my m8 used to look after him at john dunlops yard he has to be held up and you usually just get a couple of good runs a season out of him he ran a blinder last time and i think today could be the day .good luck all. |
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nice 5/1 winner yesterday ive backed LOOK BUSY at 9/1 in the 4.30 at ayr this has to be the toughest mare in training and with the rain
at ayr this has to be backed imo. |
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WD on the Irish win. Now the rain has arrived things, this thread may be more to the fore
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hi red IMPERSONATOR should go in again in the 7.30 at ballinrobe was a very easy winner the other day and they are obviously striking when the iron is hot as he does go off the boil quickly.
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Well done, good call
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cheers m8.
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missed that
wd tlp |
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hi phs youve not been on the thread for a wee while hope to hear more from you soon.
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Yeah, that's because the RP took away the easy free route to looking at a Dam's progeny. You now have to go through the Sales link and look at each one individually. The subs payers can see a summary of the results. So I've not been looking at Maidens this year, hence no posts on here. My bets are only small, so it's not worth me paying for the RP, especially when the site doesn't work so well sometimes. Also, I'm trying to stop Racing taking over my life.
Thanks for thinking my opinion's worth something anyway. Ben's not been on much either. |
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i like the look of LUTINE BELL in the 5.40 at bath today .
will love the fast ground and i dont think the step back to a stiff 5f will hinder it too much. was blinkered for the first time last run and hacked up there is the old wives tale that blinkers dont have the same effect 2nd time round . i actually think the opposite is true and horses improve the next run with blinkers. i think this one maybe ahead of the handicapper heres hoping.any views guys. |
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WD again tlp.
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cheers m8
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any thoughts on the king george tomoz lads ive just went through the pedigrees and the only horse who will go with any cut in the ground is workforce if there is soft in the going description this would be the one to be on however if the going is on the fast side its anyones race i know it was goodish ground at epsom but stoute is on record as saying he won in spite of the ground a statement i agree with .
i would have no hesitation laying him if it came up quick. |
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I wouldn't want to lay him tlp but nor would I back him odds on. Watch and enjoy for me. It'd be hard to say he didn't handle the ground at Epsom. Presumably the heat in the south means the going shouldn't be too bad, clerk apart. Harbinger seems more of a stayer than speed like Workforce, and the others seem unlikely to me
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Hope you did tlp. WD.
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the breeding never lies phs
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