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By:
Joel
When: 12 Dec 12 00:27
£    39,530.63   LaughLaughLaugh
By:
BJT
When: 12 Dec 12 00:30
Would be interesting to see what happens in a negative week if they pay you turn your loss around by 60%.....
By:
Joel
When: 12 Dec 12 00:39
The actual portal is showing the correct figures, it's just this spreadsheet which is messed up.
By:
PCisaripoff
When: 12 Dec 12 02:39
I only use the portal. Unfortunately it's always correct Sad
By:
BJT
When: 12 Dec 12 09:02
Well seeing as they send us a spreadsheet, and not a link to a portal, and this has been **** for near 2 months, surely something could be done?
By:
Joel
When: 12 Dec 12 09:17
They only send a spreadsheet if you requested. There is a link to the portal on the email, but yeah they need to fix it.
By:
BJT
When: 12 Dec 12 09:35
I don't pay it just yet, but am unfortunately(and ironically fortunately) speeding up to the "privelege", but such an oversight that has lasted so long is very worrying.  Something so reported, so obvious, and still happening in a simple? calculation, does not give much confidence in just letting them go with their charges.
This is only gambling of course, but the work involved in making a profit for a start is immense, and the work involved in keeping an eye on your account being handled correctly is ****g stupid.

What is happening with laddies takeover of the purple?  They going to get stuck into the exchange model to scare the PC out of this mob or what?  Knowing my luck, the PC will be dropped the day before I am due to pay it.  As that is how I create the world around me.  Have a feeling this will be a tough mission for me though.
By:
PCisaripoff
When: 18 Dec 12 20:38
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By:
Aussie Driver
When: 19 Dec 12 09:13
Bottle of red arrived from Mr Betfair today.

But I guess some moron's will still grizzle
By:
Kye
When: 19 Dec 12 22:56
Least we can drown our sorrows with a good shiraz
By:
PCisaripoff
When: 20 Dec 12 02:16
$4 cask imo
By:
nickw
When: 20 Dec 12 02:27
I need some new socks please betfair
been a bad week
By:
PCisaripoff
When: 31 Dec 12 04:26
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By:
PCisaripoff
When: 01 Jan 13 20:18
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By:
Live_in_Hope
When: 03 Jan 13 02:58
ol' PCisaripoff wins $5k and pays 3 or 400 bucks in pc - i loose a hundred and pay $85 bucks in turnoverand****me fees
something not right - apart from being being a hopeless punter
By:
logroller
When: 03 Jan 13 03:38
LIH..... i feel for you man, but PCisaripoff is full of it and a whinging wank!r.

I have taken a rough estimate for his claims since he started this thread.      and i do mean rough!


Roughly speaking he has won 90K aud and paid around 20k comm. and that is under 4 months......... FFS MAN! thats 200k aud a year...........YOU HAVE FOUND THE GOOSE THAN LAYS THE GOLDEN EGG.

WHY IS HE WHINGING.

If BF show me what he is doing i'll pay them 30k comm from 90k profit..........OK 35k,
By:
Live_in_Hope
When: 03 Jan 13 03:40
i have begged him to reveal his methods - even offered to pay his PC but he justs wants to win and whinge
By:
Live_in_Hope
When: 03 Jan 13 03:43
like even give out a couple of tips here and there to at least show that this **** can be profitable.
as it is im seriously thinking of giving it up on here and returning to what i used to do 4 years ago - a few bucks on the tab now and then.
By:
logroller
When: 03 Jan 13 03:50
LIH i have cut my australia horse racing action on here by 90% some due to the time of year of course, but mainly due to the added fees now... it is cutting to close to the bone.........

so only certain sports for me again.... its the only way!
By:
not4fun
When: 03 Jan 13 03:52
st.bob..i actually still go down to my local and part with cash for most of my saturdays investments

happy to take some unders....at least i have something for next week when i collect and dont re-invest

online gambling is the worst for complusive degenerates... like myself
By:
Live_in_Hope
When: 03 Jan 13 04:02
you both are correct - im not professional or disciplined enough.
in running is my problem - have laid out on more winners than losers which cost in the long run imo
where i find myself is almost as ridiculous as the turnover fee which is slapped on in a totally unfair way imo
By:
logroller
When: 03 Jan 13 04:03
no doubt not4fun............it is a very dangerous tool is a lot of people's hands
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 03 Jan 13 04:49
Don't you go runnin away, Mopey! I may even make a rare journey to the races on Saturday. Be winners galore from the yard,

just for you Love Might even try to emulate Jim and spot a Lay or two Shocked
By:
PCisaripoff
When: 03 Jan 13 04:56
Just a thread to point out how much BF is reaping from it's customers each & every week
Love to tell you how i play but it's customer vs customer on here. If i tell people, i'll lose my edge. I have no fantastic secret, just found a way that works for me, it's fairly boring, do the same thing over & over again.
By:
PCisaripoff
When: 03 Jan 13 04:58
& Log, if you think i'm full of it. Email me your name & dob, i'll book a flight for you to Qld, & show you my P&L.
Bring 20k with you, & if i'm fair dinkum, you give me the 20k. If i'm making this up, i'll give you 20k.

Put up or shut up sunshine
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 03 Jan 13 04:58
Does it involve Jim ValueBet? Plain
By:
logroller
When: 03 Jan 13 05:04
i'll give u twenty grand gladly every year and pay BF comm of what my estimates are above when i make the profit for what u tell me.
By:
Live_in_Hope
When: 03 Jan 13 05:05
lol, PC is a queenslander!

common fellow maroon - just post one tip or lay Cool
By:
PCisaripoff
When: 03 Jan 13 05:07
Where you in Qld LIH?
By:
logroller
When: 03 Jan 13 05:12
and by the way PCis, my main stick with this thread is u think that paying that much comm for winning what u do is over charging.............Fuc me mate your paying comm for making money that otherwise would be a dream without BF.
I for one know that i couldnt do what i do without BF, its all we can do if we want to play on their platform
By:
Live_in_Hope
When: 03 Jan 13 05:16
it does sort of grate when i lose a hundred and pay 80 bucks turnover
thats not your fault of course PC - im glad your winning - gives me hope that i may stumble upon a winning formular before i go broke or die
By:
logroller
When: 03 Jan 13 05:37
how does that work LIH, is that automatically calculated and taken out when u go over the 40 bets into the aussie horse racing weekly. so for example bet 41 would be back an even 100 and the 1.5% turnover tax is taken from your stake, thus u dont really have 100 on it


fuc! does that make sense?

i've never gone over the limit so just asking
By:
Joel
When: 03 Jan 13 05:39
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It's just not fair Cry
By:
justthetip
When: 03 Jan 13 05:41
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By:
Live_in_Hope
When: 03 Jan 13 05:42
its 50 back bets a week log.
u need to turnover more than 2k as well which is as easy of course.
then there is some complicated formula for working it out- i can t get my head around, which doesnt matter anyway because by then i have already entered the plucking room.
By:
Live_in_Hope
When: 03 Jan 13 05:45
f uck me justthelip - u fair dinkum?
very well done my NEW BEST MATE Love
contact request on its way!
By:
logroller
When: 03 Jan 13 05:53
i understand the basic's of it LIH, just want to know how they treat bet/back number 51 then..........another example say i've only got 100$ dollars in my account left and i back an even 100 chance, they must take it out of the stake?????

and then pay up to 6.5% if u win..........your even 100$ bet has just turned into 100 to win around 92$......
By:
Live_in_Hope
When: 03 Jan 13 05:56
im a bit stupid loggy so not to0 sure
if you havnt got the money in your account for them to thieve on thursday, it will be grabbed from your next deposit to your Main Account.
By:
PCisaripoff
When: 03 Jan 13 06:21
Never said Log that  don't need Betfair. All i'm pointing out is that PC is merely a 'monopoly' tax.
They've tried to lie about why they've introduced it & moved their goalposts a few times.
I'm a customer until competition. (if ever that comes in i reckon they'll send a different model around each day begging i don't leave).
No way around the 20% but plenty of ways to get around the 40-60% charge.
By:
Live_in_Hope
When: 03 Jan 13 06:24
so u lay PC?
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