By not voting yes you let a no vote count

I've said I CAN repost SOMETIMES but prefer not to mainly because it upsets my own routine. If you changed the rules I daresay I would repost 50% of the time rather than have a loser,but madhatter is a case of somebody who knows he can't because of work commitments so makes the effort to put one up the night before. Tbh this whole thing has basically arisen because of one or two people who years ago left standing instructions for LRF because they didn't know if they would be able to post from work. There never seemed to be much problem about people like me ( and you shearer ) who only gave notice  about needing to use instructions beforehand when we were going on holiday and the vast majority of people lost a pt if they didn't post out of the blue.

Hi lads,

I will vote to ditch LRF because I think there has been a marked increase in non-posters since this option came in a couple of years ago.
This current default option gives everyone a free nap for TEN days per month without posting and encourages laziness/indifference.

I make the effort to post every day (night before) except when away on holiday or business or if computer wont work, irrespective of the sh1te cards that we have to trawl through on Mondays/Tuesdays (especially in the winter). Others don't.

If you give people 10 free posts per months as is the current situation then some will take them and if you then offer them the LRF for non-posting they are even happier because you have picked a horse for them.


However, if you give them a free day for non-posting with no profit or loss then you avoid the debacle of a 9/2 default winner as we saw yesterday while not penalising those that can't post (as would be the case if you went to an automatic no post equals -1 system).
If you limit this to x non posts per year (36, 48 or 60) then they have to pick more times per year than they currently do (current 120 free days is ridiculous).
Having x free days( I vote 60 max, 5 per month) means they can miss as many as they want with holidays or computer issues without penalty until they get to the 61st day.
Those that cant be arsed to post at this time of year during the awful racing we face in the run-up to the festivals will be the ones that run out of 'grace days' quickest (especially as they will need to save some for their summer holidays or potential emergencies) and so will be under most pressure to not miss days later in the year.

Last day should stay the same rules (all must post, no duplicates).
Sundays would be the settlers decision - I would go for including them in 60 grace days rather than optional  - but I'm not the poor bugger that has to put the tables together (although I've never seen a Sunday that hasn't had to have a table done for it).
No-one should be allowed more than 10 grace days per month (avoids someone picking a 14/1 winner early in month and then not posting again in am effort to be promoted or Prem Champ).
From what I've read I see that Reged seems to think he can do the spreadsheet amendments to make it easy to keep a track on used days, irrespective of any promotion/relegation.

I am fully aware that when I vote no to keeping LRF then I could end up with a new simple rule that says 'no post, minus one, no exceptions' and I will be buggered to the extent of losing around 8 to 12 points every August holiday (as will many others) and again if/when I go away on business for a fortnight at a time (as I do!), but Reged has assured us this is not the fixed alternative and I have faith in the settlers to come up with something a little less draconian so, to reiterate, I have voted NO to keeping the LRF rule.

Sorry for yet another dissertation-like ramble but a few days reasoning amongst ourselves here has to happen to determine the best ideas for the longer term rulings we will have to live with.

Cheers,
Mad.

I'm sure there are lots of people, like me, who simply forget to post. If you want a FAIR challenge, then EVERYONE should have a selection per day. How many last race favs go in?? FFS change it to the outsider of the field in the last race if it stops them ****ing moping. Oh wait, when the 20/1 winner goes in in 50 weeks time there will be an outcry again.

Calm down Dessie you getting me worried.

no smoke without fire lol.

You should follow DeSSie on the Man U thread pete
They all seem to think he is a masturbator     

How is Shane doing petemac, is he on the road to recovery?

salmon spray 04 Mar 14 21:26 
You should follow DeSSie on the Man U thread pete
They all seem to think he is a masturbator

I should never have called them analmals

I have no objections to LRF - in the long run it really hardly matters. But it is useful if you're on holiday and wake up midday with a hangover and don't have to scrabble around to post. Why not just limit it to 10 days a year instead of 10 days a month?

If it does get scrapped it's not too hard to write some code that will automatically post it anyway, though I'd rather do something more productive with my time.

Reged suggested i put this on here from the 'Scrap it thread'

The biggest joke with the comp. is not LRF or odds on naps it's the multi player sado's , currently 129 names in the 4 divisions but the reality is that actual individual persons amount to probably less than two thirds of the 129 players , laughable really.

Andrew in Sweden 04 Mar 14 19:03 
Is it really a fair and democratic vote if posters are allowed to use their 'alter ego' identities (some have more than 2) ?


DeSSieReborn 04 Mar 14 23:00 
Do I take it from this that some people are actually in the leagues more than once ie using more than one name??


alleged22 04 Mar 14 23:21 
id rather know the answer to dessies question?


grey shark  05 Mar 14 19:43
At least one individual on here has enough user names to have his own division ..... very sad.

Optimize 05 Mar 14 21:16 
Just popped on to have a read and i have to agree with the above poster who makes a very valid point -all a bit of a farce really isnt it .



IMHO 10 LRF a month is to many i'd reduce it to 3,4 or 5 a month max and if someone bags a 9/2 LRF like a few days ago then so be it , as said by others it's only a game , well for some of us it is but for the multi players it's clearly the highlight of their day  . Anyway must go as i've got a dozen naps to sort out

REGED , nice rant 
, that's your opinion we all have our own , and i'm fully aware Shane's connections and his is a more acceptable situation , think it was Knight Commander div 2 settler who wrote a third of players are multiple users and i'll agree to that , personally couldn't give a flying as i'm fortunate in that i'm in the camp of it's just a game and NOT the highlight of my day .

Playing the competition with 2, 3 or more alter-egos is borderline OK,
but using them all to influence the vote in this LRF poll is villainous

What's all this about it being a " fun thing "     
For some of us it is DEADLY SERIOUS.

grey shark is a disgrace to all fish imo.

Nice response at 15.03 Reg It doesn't matter if people want to have 2 or 3 attempts at all.
Some people are open about it others are not. I have decided to own up.
I am actually Salmon

Spoke to Shane yesterday he is still in hospital waiting for his op and he asked how is Naps were going and told me to say hello to all the "Bast**** on Betfair LOL"
I don't understand it is taking so long my sister was in and out the same day after her Stent op do you think it could be something to do with the Nurses Uniform?

I don't understand it is taking so long my sister was in and out the same day after her Stent op do you think it could be something to do with the Nurses Uniform??

Shane should really stop wearing that in a hospital - it's bound to lead to confusion

Reg I don't think it is your job to sort it out. If people have more than one identity it is up to them to be honest and just have the one vote, if they choose to have 2 or 3 then so be it, we are not voting on the launch of a cruise missile.
Shane set an example when I asked him to vote for himself and Nijinsky he replied he would just vote for the one ID.

but you get a shiny virtual cup from shane ... what else could you possibly aspire to?