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By:
dogdayafternoon
When: 07 Mar 14 14:57
easy solution,no lrf,make sunday compulsory and have 4 days off a month.
By:
madhatter
When: 08 Mar 14 08:33
If you don't post you shouldn't win.

Where is the sense in having a tipping competition where a napster gets 120 days where they have a horse picked for them (which is what LRF amounts to).

Let's not forget we all get another 50 days a years off for optional Sundays. So we have a Naps table wherein a player only has to pick a horse for roughly 50% of the time.......crazy!

However, no-one can be around to post every day so there should be a fixed number of days per year (with a limit set per month within this) to allow for this.

You score zero on these non-posting days until you exceed your monthly and/or yearly limit then you score -1 for each extra day.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 08 Mar 14 20:23
Another LRF today, if it isn't done away with I'm out of here.
By:
man of many moods
When: 09 Mar 14 10:28
I had a very busy day yesterday. No time to look at the horses. So without doing any study whatsoever I simply picked the LRF at Wolverhampton. And it won, albeit at a skinny price.

I could have just posted the unnamed LRF at Wolverhampton. That would have counted as an Instruction.
I could have simply not posted and the Settler would have put me on the LRF at Wolverhampton (had there not been a later race in Ireland)
I could have emailed a Settler or another player and asked them to put me on the named LRF at Wolverhampton.

So what's the difference? That's the point which everyone seems to be missing. Scrapping it makes no difference to anything. Much easier and more transparent to keep things the way they are, and always have been.

Either way, I made no effort. It was one of those days when I was unable to post. That's why we have Instructions. That's why we've always had them. For just such days. And whether we keep them or not, I'll still be on the LRF when I can't post. So what's the point of getting rid of them? Absolutely none! It would be pointless.

Never has the expression "It ain't broke so don't fix it" been more relevant.
By:
alleged22
When: 09 Mar 14 13:03
I had a very busy day yesterday. No time to look at the horses.


same here but it took me all of 30 secs to post a selection
By:
alleged22
When: 09 Mar 14 13:12
I really don't get this fuss over 'alter egos'. What IS the problem? If I had more than one BF ID and wanted to post for each of the ones I had, so what?

I don,t have a problem with this either, if someone feels they need to throw 3 or 4 darts that is their decision Laugh
By:
man of many moods
When: 09 Mar 14 14:11
same here but it took me all of 30 secs to post a selection

. . . which lost.

I've no idea what point you're trying to make. Enlighten me! Happy
By:
man of many moods
When: 09 Mar 14 14:13
I don't have a problem with this either

Me neither. Makes perfect sense for some people to have several votes while everyone else only gets one! That's not going to skew the results at all is it?
By:
alleged22
When: 09 Mar 14 14:21
yes it lost MOMM I would rather pick a loser and say I tried than have a LRF, that's just me Happy now I cant have my sunday rest and have to pick a winner to make up for yesterdays loss Sad
By:
man of many moods
When: 09 Mar 14 14:23
Go for the favourite in the last race. It worked for me. Happy
By:
alleged22
When: 09 Mar 14 14:28
Laugh
By:
DeSSieReborn
When: 09 Mar 14 18:35
Make it one selection per week then you WILL get a comp Wink
By:
Ming_the_Merciless
When: 09 Mar 14 19:15
I wish the people who are loading up the threats to f off if it is not changed would just go and do it.
By:
.Fidway.
When: 13 Mar 14 19:05
All this hoo haa about the LRF but what about half the tipsters in a certain league where you could predict their naps at least 50% of the time. They should just leave the instructions of shortest price runner of the day.

Cheltenham is the highlight of most peoples year and they choose a 2/5 shot in a race at Towcester . Surely there is as much thought goes in to LRF as there is shortest priced runner of the day.
By:
.Fidway.
When: 13 Mar 14 19:06
well said ming
By:
Reged
When: 13 Mar 14 19:52
you have a point Fid but it does seem to keep them afloat ... though lacking in much ambition. But then it's up to others to sort that out by taking them on
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 13 Mar 14 20:21
Email sent Reg. I`d like to move forward with this as soon as possible.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 13 Mar 14 22:27
14 winners in Division 3 today.

I napped Dynaste which won at 3/1. Lucky Blue napped Rosa Fleet which won at 10/11.

The other 12 'winners' who never bothered to post (it's Cheltenham week not some wet and windy day in November) got rewarded with a 2/1 LRF winner in Spes Nostra.

Is that really right in your opinion Ming?
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 13 Mar 14 22:31
It`s an impossible one this, no way can you please everyone.

Looks like we`re going to give the 5 rest days a go, 5 non-posting days per month allowed and settled as a n/r. You can, as we already do, post for others.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 13 Mar 14 22:41
Shane, in a division of 37 players, two people actually napped a winner yet 14 people score points. You know it's the correct decision to get rid of the LRF rule. The 5 rest days seems a reasonable compromise though. Glad to see you back mate Wink
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 13 Mar 14 22:45
Fit and healthy Slippy Grin Not get rid of me that easy. The Mrs has had to put the policies away.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 13 Mar 14 22:46
It was a reasonable compromise Slippy, that`s why I sided with it.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 13 Mar 14 22:47
Laugh You keep hanging in there me old china. Wink
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 13 Mar 14 22:51
I`ve a strawberry flavoured ecig in my mouth Laugh
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 13 Mar 14 22:51
Bleedin awful I tell ya.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 13 Mar 14 22:53
I will Slippy, cheers. Might even venture out tomorrow night to the battle cruiser.
By:
madhatter
When: 13 Mar 14 22:55
Good to see this likely to come in Shane.....as Slippy says, no-one should be able to increase their total from not posting.

Have you considered my idea of just having those 60 free non-posting days per calendar year in a format where you take them when you want but no more than 10 per month?

It would make it easier for the annual fortnight holidays we tend to take and also for sudden family/computer issues.

If you take too many earlyish in the year end and so use them up too quickly then you have to make extra effort to post later in the year or lose 1 point for every day after your 60 allowance days have all gone.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 13 Mar 14 22:57
mads - everything has been considered mate, believe me.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 13 Mar 14 23:25
Red Bloom got his nap up as well, that was an oversight on my part.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 13 Mar 14 23:29
Oh ok Laugh
By:
grey shark
When: 14 Mar 14 08:57
Looks like we`re going to give the 5 rest days a go

Is this PLUS Sunday rest days as well per month ? If it is fink your going to see a lot at the top and bottom of each division at the end of each month using the right to not post therefore not risking losing another pound .
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 14 Mar 14 10:07
Sunday will remain optional.

That`s the worry grey.
By:
grey shark
When: 14 Mar 14 10:28
Wink
By:
scissors
When: 14 Mar 14 10:32
People seem very disinterested in this subject
So Little passion in their posts ... Wink
So i was going to not post on it
And instead leave it to the Last Post Fav..Devil
By:
scissors
When: 14 Mar 14 10:35
Salmon spray -- for the first time ever
I agreed with one of your posts Blush Blush
" this is DEADLY SERIOUS"....
Hahaha...
Too right it is -- it is more than Life and Death
This is ....
Just check above on some of the bridge jumpers posts !!
By:
scissors
When: 14 Mar 14 10:45
LRF -- was put in place because some posters were
Not lucky enough to live in the centre of a city with
Constant connection.. Londoners, etc, will fail to appreciate
That places like The Yorkshire Dales have areas where you cannot
Guarantee your connection from one day to the  next..
I lived  their for a decade until last year and believe me I tried and tried
To post some days , over and over ..
So LRF gave me a bit of a chance ..
It also helped people on holiday abroad,etc...
And workers who visited other peoples premises as part
Of their employment and sometimes could get on and sometimes not
Depending on that company visited situation...
I have always said the SP should be topped ..
A maximum of say EVENS would not garher too much
Opposition I would think .. It is soo annoying when a
9/2 fav goes in Last race ..
But an evens Max SP should appease most players
Who NOW know why LRF was put in place ..
It was not for the lazy  RS's .. But genuine competitors
With an intermittent problem !! and helped to make the
Comp fairer.. That was the noble idea.
By:
scissors
When: 14 Mar 14 10:47
If restricting number of days -- make it 6
As That is a full weeks holiday--  incl the Sunday
Being a non- posting day .
Makes sense.
By:
grey shark
When: 14 Mar 14 12:35
scissors , dont't get cut up by it all , it's not worth it
By:
majorupshotbagley
When: 14 Mar 14 13:09
I agree with capping and the obvious figure is evens,which is the perfect offset to a losing nap.

Also make it only 5 LRF's  available per month
By:
JRAS
When: 14 Mar 14 14:00
VS - Holidays - I went to Benidorm (classy I know) for a few days last year and though I could access the internet and access the Betfair front page, I could not log on. I believe this is done to protect our accounts from international hackers.
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