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By:
man of many moods
When: 18 Jan 13 15:33
Are you happy with that wording then Shane? Anything you want to add/amend?
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 15:36
Perfect momms, more or less how i`d have worded it, sentiment being the same.
By:
lagmorian
When: 18 Jan 13 15:37
No worries, good luck explaining that if someone has picked a winner at dundalk later
By:
madhatter
When: 18 Jan 13 16:44
Hi all,
Just back from work to find all racing (unsurprisingly) off. I have no betfair access during the day.
Is Dubai Prince telling me that, as I always pick my horse in good faith the night before, then he thinks I have to lose a pound if it is called off unless I now reselect from Dundalk tonight?
Stick where the sun don't shine pal.
Mad.
By:
madhatter
When: 18 Jan 13 16:51
You want to make a settlers life easier?
Make it a rule that all selections MUST be from afternoon meetings so the bloody tables can be sorted out early evening rather than the poor buggers having to wait for the result of the 10.30 from Dundalk.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 16:53
Not a bad idea mad.
By:
Reged
When: 18 Jan 13 18:12
that's assuming Dundalk actuallyh gets going  ... stalls frozen up apparently!
By:
Reged
When: 18 Jan 13 18:13
best idea Ive heard yet mad! Laugh
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 18:15
Stalls frozen?




By:
Reged
When: 18 Jan 13 18:20
Well sommat's wrong with them - 17.50 still not off, and the wevver's as foul as can be.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 18:22
Looks like the stalls Reg.

What a chuffin day.




By:
man of many moods
When: 18 Jan 13 18:22
I've only just noticed the 5.50 still isn't off yet. They'll have to flag start it.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 18:31
The flags are locked in a box and the key has gone missing momms.

They are asking around for a pistol.
By:
man of many moods
When: 18 Jan 13 18:35
To shoot whoever lost it?
By:
man of many moods
When: 18 Jan 13 19:01
madhatter     18 Jan 13 16:51 
You want to make a settlers life easier?
Make it a rule that all selections MUST be from afternoon meetings so the bloody tables can be sorted out early evening rather than the poor buggers having to wait for the result of the 10.30 from Dundalk.

Shanelee1966     18 Jan 13 16:53 
Not a bad idea mad.


Hmmmmmm! Plain
By:
man of many moods
When: 18 Jan 13 19:06
man of many moods     10 Dec 12 15:40 
The only thing which would really benefit the settlers is to do away with evening meetings.

Shanelee1966     10 Dec 12 15:53 
I think it`s great the way it is really.


So it was a crap idea when I suggested, but not a bad idea now that mad's suggested it. Laugh
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 19:13
It was a light hearted comment from me, good idea yes, but not something i`d try to implement.

Anyway i never said that.
By:
man of many moods
When: 18 Jan 13 19:24
lol - copied and pasted Shane (but taken from a longer answer to my suggestion, I'll grant you)

I think Reg summed it up pretty well on that occasion:

Reged     10 Dec 12 18:18 

. . . I imagine part of what we do is to make it easy for people who work to post at a convenient time. Some I notice never post until, I assume, they are home from work. That's why I think overall it would be a bad idea.


And he's absolutely right of course. That was a point which hadn't occurred to me.
By:
unluckyStu
When: 18 Jan 13 19:28
If you don't follow Irish racing you're missing out on the jump fans so called olympics Cheltenham, and don't say anyone in the four div's doesn't pick Irish horses at Cheltenham
By:
unluckyStu
When: 18 Jan 13 20:10
Also if Navan is the only meeting tomorrow is it another non racing day or a Sunday again Laugh
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 20:12
It will be optional if only Naas survives.
By:
.Fidway.
When: 18 Jan 13 21:05
why is it optional some days and not others. there was racing today and i wasnt allowed a nap. now thats wrong. even more wrong granted i picked a much needed 5/2 winner. not many things rile me up but surely if there is racing then the competition must go on.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 21:28
Fidway - please read through the whole thread.
By:
unluckyStu
When: 18 Jan 13 21:40
I'm with you on that one Fidway Wink
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 22:16
The dicision was made early afternoon and made clear.

We can`t see into the future for what someone may think or post hours later.

I personally sympathize and felt it should have been optional, but reading through the thread you`ll see why.
By:
salmon spray
When: 18 Jan 13 22:27
Don't bother with him Shane. When you were on holiday he pulled up an old thread and confused half the players in The Premiership. Might have been drunk but has never apologised. Should have been booted out then.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 22:30
Fidway or Stu?

Who`s this bleedin Salman Rushdie, posted on premier thread earlier.
By:
salmon spray
When: 18 Jan 13 22:36
Fidway.
Salmon rushdie is very closely related to Dr Martin luther King,whom I told you about previously. Ignore and with luck he'll go away.
By:
Reged
When: 18 Jan 13 23:00
tomorrow will be optional rather than suspended because everyone is aware of all the risks at the outset and thus it is a fair and level playing field ... No one foresaw the total wipeout in Uk today.

Sorry if you dont approve but a decision was made by, in the end, an absolute majority. If you still dont approve then become a settler. We don't make such decisions for our own benefit but for everyone in the comp.
By:
Weaver Fish
When: 18 Jan 13 23:17
Well said that man! Happy
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 18 Jan 13 23:20
Must admit I did not know that DUNDALK was in EIRE !!!!!!!BlushBlushBlush

It was AW racing and all much of a muchness IMO....compared to NH racing in all of Ireland!

Not an "easy" "job" you guys/gals have......so thanks for all time spent on the topic......................Wish I had read all posts earlier on subject.....but was spending time on DUNDALK ratings insteadTongue OutCrazy....so missed all the posts til AFTER I made my selection!!!!

No problem with me losing a winner today...as odds were c r a p anyway......so did not matter a jot! Had it been a 20-1 shot .....then I suspect I would be nawing my gums and banging my heid against the computerDevilLaughLaughLaugh!!!!!!!!


Thanks again for all the time spent today "guys".
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 18 Jan 13 23:51
I tend to agree with Fidway.

The explanation that - oh it's really an UK racing naps league and we just happen to tolerate that Irish stuff blah blah blah...And cos the English stuff was off, we decided to change the rules for the day as there was only an Irish meeting remaining...

How 'pathetic' was that? Some might say 'racist'!!!

The bottom line was there was still an eligible meeting remaining under the rules of the comp, and those of us take part in the naps league know that Irish racing is included for selections.

It's not as if the weather took us by surprise, it was forecasted.

The Irish racing is either part of the comp or it's not, you can't class it as 'secondary' and outside of the usual rules.

There were days in Novemeber when there was only the hedgehopper stuff on, which I no longer have any interest in. It's become a bit alien to me now, but I still had to make a selection from it on the days when there wasn't any Flat racing.
My point is? If there wasn't any Flat racing through the winter I wouldn't be in the comp, but most days there is, yet I accept there will be a few days when I will have to select from meetings I'd rather not ie the jumps - and I just get on with it, I don't ask for the comp to be cancelled!
By:
Reged
When: 18 Jan 13 23:57
George read the posts. The comp was not cancelled simply because only an Irish meeting was left.
By:
madhatter
When: 18 Jan 13 23:58
Reged     10 Dec 12 18:18 

. . . I imagine part of what we do is to make it easy for people who work to post at a convenient time. Some I notice never post until, I assume, they are home from work. That's why I think overall it would be a bad idea.


And he's absolutely right of course. That was a point which hadn't occurred to me.



How does that reasoning hold water? ConfusedCrazy

Surely if they can only pick in the evening then why can't they pick one for the next afternoon rather than one for the evening that they are posting?
They are looking at the final declarations and all the form and tissues and tipsters etc are there for them use?

There are many of us that manage to post the night before for the following afternoon.
By:
Reged
When: 19 Jan 13 00:01
Read china above mad ...
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 19 Jan 13 00:03
Reged, I have read the thread.

The bottom line is there was still an eligible meeting remaining after all the abandonments. Had there just been Wolverhampton remaining, the comp would have gone ahead as usual, so why not just because there was only Dundalk left? The Irish racing is either part of the comp or it's not.
By:
salmon spray
When: 19 Jan 13 00:09
Fidway has a record of causing trouble,which is exactly what he was doing this evening in selecting when the post above his was quite clear.
By:
madhatter
When: 19 Jan 13 00:09
china? his post on page three doesn;t seem relevant? Did you mean someone else reg?
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 19 Jan 13 00:18
According to rule 2, there is no way the comp should have been cancelled today, imo.


1. - You have to choose 1 horse each day. Winners will be returned at SP/Industry Prices and stake is 1 point. If no SP/Industry Price is returned winning selections will be settled as non-runners. Non selection means a loser.

2. - All UK and Irish races are eligible along with the Dubai Festival and the Sunday Arc de Triomphe meet.

3. - Selections must be made AT LEAST 1 hour before your selected race. Failure to comply will result in the selection being declared Invalid and treated as a Non Selection.

4. - Selections may be changed as long as it is BEFORE 1hr prior to original race OR if selection is a NR or deemed invalid ( Rule 3 MUST still be adhered to).

5. - Rule 4 and Dead Heat rules will apply to SP/Industry Prices.

6. - Sunday selections will be optional. No deductions for non posters. (it will be compulsory if Sunday is last day of the month).

7. - LAST DAY RULES for every last day of the month : all selections must be made BY THE SCHEDULED OFF OF THE FIRST RACE of the day, you can't choose any horse already selected and only named horses are allowed (no instructions).

8. Instructions to cover holiday / days can't post will be allowed but under the following STRICT guidelines :
- The instructions you wish to use must be clearly stated (Sundays will not have instructions applied unless EXPLICITLY stated otherwise).
- Instructions will be applied to GB mainland races only UNLESS explicitly stated otherwise. Ie Eire & Northern Ireland
- Only 10 days on instructions which do not name horses (i.e last fav , Spotform's nap etc) will be allowed each month. Once that has been exceeded one point per day will be deducted.
- Horses selected from the five day entries will be allowed. If they do not run they will be treated under the non runners rule and will not count towards the 10 day instruction maximum.
- In the case of more than one favourite in a race Instructions will be settled on the favourite with lowest race-card number.

9. In the event of a tie the person who has used least instructions will be deemed to finish above the person they have tied with.

10. In the event of a major Betfair upgrade which may affect the ability to post on the Forum before racing starts that day will have Sunday rules applied (ie. no deduction for non-posters).
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 19 Jan 13 00:19
*cancelled yesterday!

Which reminds me, past my bedtime. Night all!
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