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By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 13:00
Yup Reg
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 13:01
Very droll ardgirl Laugh
By:
salmon spray
When: 18 Jan 13 13:01
I was taking the pee Shane.
By:
man of many moods
When: 18 Jan 13 13:01
Don't forget to adjust your hymnsheets Happy
By:
Reged
When: 18 Jan 13 13:01
So, just to make absolutement sure, I'm now going to tell my intrepid band of napsters the comp is suspended
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 13:01
I thought it was a strange one salmon, i`ve had quite a few recently Laugh
By:
man of many moods
When: 18 Jan 13 13:02
Only for today reg! Shocked
By:
Weaver Fish
When: 18 Jan 13 13:02
Agreed
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 13:02
Yes Reg
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 13:03
Sorry for shouting
By:
Reged
When: 18 Jan 13 13:03
Shucks MoMM ... I ws hoping for the weekend off

No need to shout (ie show off) shane Laugh
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 13:03
salmon - is ardgirl taking the pee as well Laugh
By:
ardgirl
When: 18 Jan 13 13:04
Devil
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 13:04
Sorry
By:
Reged
When: 18 Jan 13 13:07
That's enuf Yuri Nation: Ed

Miniscule apology accepted shane
By:
Reged
When: 18 Jan 13 13:07
cant you get it any smaller?
By:
DubaiPrince
When: 18 Jan 13 13:09
Watching the market doesnt guarantee anything really though Shane does it ?-and at least the early poster always has the(potential at least)chance to repost if he/she so wishes .Both afternoon meetings were in serious doubt yesterday evening and yet no one had a contingency plan to put up a substitute selection elsewhere where as it stands at present the late poster would have had to pick at Wolverhampton(had it been on) or Dundalk . That has been sorted in that its been made an "optional day" today but a LRF  rule would completely do away with dare i say it "tactical n/rs " being selected as and when it happens throughout all the divisions which it so obviously seems to happen on many occasions-and whats the downside to making a n/r  an obligatory selection on LRF as opposed to the possible advantage of posting early.As said to MOMM im sure you would see many more posters coming back on to reselect if they were not keen on going on LRF -and thats a nap
By:
man of many moods
When: 18 Jan 13 13:12
Ascot already abandoned tomorrow.
Kempton
Lingfield
Naas
Meydan
. . . are all possibilities at the moment.

We need to make an early announcement about what the situation will be for tomorrow regarding abandoned meetings (if any).
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 13:15
Just been to get my snow shovel
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 13:16
Just started on my drive
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 13:17
Moderators won`t be able to see that Grin
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 13:19
I concur momms.

Dubai - i agree entirley with your final point. Tactics are not uncommon in the premier division.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 13:21
But then again as i`ve argued in the past, the premier is a different animal altogether from the other three divisions.
By:
china castle
When: 18 Jan 13 13:35
For days like this could have the equivalent of the pools panel Cool . The competition settlers could look at the days racing and try and come up with the results Laugh . Im sure they will be fair when it comes to their naps Wink
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 18 Jan 13 13:36
MOMM, I don't think Meydan tomorrow is part of the Dubai carnival, so not sure selections from there are valid Confused

It's just a 'minor' meeting with handicaps and a maiden race.

http://www.dubairacingclub.com/visit/calendar/racing-calendar
By:
DubaiPrince
When: 18 Jan 13 13:39
Why not put it to the vote in all the divisions then Shane and let the majority decide

N/Rs at abandoned meetings to be replaced by LRF unless a new selection is posted 
The competitions are surely run for everyones enjoyment and not a select few so let the forumites decide which is the fairest solution as the current situation is most definitely open to manipulation .Settlers cant complain as in theory it doesnt give them any further work does it?
By:
man of many moods
When: 18 Jan 13 13:44
It may be all we've got tomorrow George. Grin
By:
Reged
When: 18 Jan 13 13:45
No Meydan doesnt count.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 13:46
Dubai - i replied on the other thread you posted on (calling other settlers), please take a look.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 13:46
I think i understand where your feeling originate from Dubai.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 13:49
Why not put it to the vote in all the divisions then Shane and let the majority decide

N/Rs at abandoned meetings to be replaced by LRF unless a new selection is posted 
The competitions are surely run for everyones enjoyment and not a select few so let the forumites decide which is the fairest solution as the current situation is most definitely open to manipulation .Settlers cant complain as in theory it doesnt give them any further work does it?


Firstly see the other thread Dubai & correct me if i`m wrong. Just trying to make sure i understand where views originate.
By:
man of many moods
When: 18 Jan 13 14:03
Whereas the settlers are merely the custodians of the League and any major decisions regarding changes should quite rightly be decided by a majority decision of the players, there is a consistent problem in that the majority never seems to vote! As we've seen time and time again we only ever get a vocal minority involved in discussions, usually accompanied by threats of leaving the comp if a particular change is implemented. So we always tend to go round in circles and the end result is always that nothing changes.

I'm not necessarily saying that I think we're wrong not to have implemented any of the changes previously proposed. 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it' is an expression we often see whenever any potential changes are discussed, and it's a very valid one. All I'm saying is that the highly democratic approach we take coupled with the very small percentage of players who ever voice an opinion probably means that nothing will ever get fixed when it IS broken.

I can see the problem; I don't have the solution.
By:
man of many moods
When: 18 Jan 13 14:31
Please be aware when making selections for Saturday that should the meetings at Kempton and Lingfield both be abandoned before any racing has taken place at either track, then Saturday will be an Optional day with Sunday Rules (i.e. no deductions for non-posters) assuming that Naas is still on.

The meeting at Meydan is not part of the Dubai Festival and is not therefore eligible for Saturday.


Something like that? To be posted when the new threads for tomorrow go up?
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 14:32
Quiet right momms, as you`re aware we`ve had poor turnouts at the polling stations in the past.

See my lated post on the other thread (calling settlers)

Firstly we have to have grounds for major changes, i just don`t feel we need to make major changes in any areas at all, minor ones yes. As i mentioned the other day, as a custodian my main aim is to leave this competition in as good a shape if not better when i retire from settling. I know for sure that with yours, Reg, Weaver & Fch who`s almost on board that will certainly be the case. Reg & yourself have made massive contributions.

We need to ensure that the Betfair comps ship sails on in calm waters.

Going back to my original point, surely we would need more than one or at most two dissenting voices to even look at implementing a minor change. The support would have to be there to begin with, then open it up to the vote.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 14:34
14:31 post sounds a good idea momms.
By:
man of many moods
When: 18 Jan 13 14:39
Just off out with the dog for half an hour before it gets dark.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 14:42
Bloody hell momms, me too.
By:
lagmorian
When: 18 Jan 13 14:54
Why has this got so complicated? If a selection is made from an abandoned meeting then its a nr and 0 and if a selection is made at dundalk its still on so should be settled accordingly. For all those that don't want to select one at dundalk tonight tough luck, its on so get the pin out
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 13 15:19
lag - fair point, as you`re aware i was i favour of it being optional. Problem was, we voted and it came out at 2-2 so i thought the best thing to do in the interests of the whole competition was to back down and move over into to suspended camp in order to reach a swift decision so everyone knew where they stood.
By:
man of many moods
When: 18 Jan 13 15:20
Hi Lagmorian. It's not complicated. This comp is about picking naps at GB meetings organised by the BHA. Presumably at some point a concession was allowed for players to pick from all-Irish meetings governed by the HRI. But a lot of players aren't interested in Irish racing so it definitely shouldn't ever be compulsory. Unfortunately by the time Lingfield was called off today, thereby making it an Optional day, several players had already selected at Dundalk and therefore no longer had the choice of whether to post or not, so to make it fair for everyone the only option was to cancel today.
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