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By:
layprofessional
When: 29 Nov 10 17:16
think she will be in final 3 tho;but massive percentage of votes away from rebecca and matt imo
By:
George Bailey
When: 29 Nov 10 17:19
Your 3 year run ain't going to be 4 I'm afraid.
By:
Mikeeey
When: 29 Nov 10 17:23
She's probably more talented than One Direction
By:
GymTanLaundry
When: 29 Nov 10 17:26
still can't believe the comment about cher's version of no diggity being superior to the original.

one of the most ridiculous comments i've ever seen on here.  and there's some serious competition....
By:
247lol
When: 29 Nov 10 18:29
Judging by the speedy responses,it appears we have some  jigalo ****tards in the house.
Basically anyone posting negative spiteful comments about a 17 year old girl just about depicts the kind of people you are.
The real problem is you cant stand seeing a young upstart with a bit of attitude making it big whilst you have to do your sh**ty minimum wage job,lifes a bitch boys,lol.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 29 Nov 10 18:38
Ringy dingy ding
By:
George Bailey
When: 29 Nov 10 18:40
247 I suspect you represent Cher's core voters which is why she can't win I'm afraid.  But thanks to you and your friends for giving us the opportunity to supplement our meagre rations.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 29 Nov 10 18:54
Aiden was the kind of 17 year old we like

No tarmacking
No lucky rabbit's paws
No ringy dingy ding
No clogging up of lay-bys
No littering
No loitering
No rapping
No scrapping
No trainers
No silly jackets
No shouting
No benefits

just nice and posh  Laugh

Cool
By:
Henry VIII
When: 29 Nov 10 19:00
247 I suspect you represent Cher's core voters which is why she can't win I'm afraid.  But thanks to you and your friends for giving us the opportunity to supplement our meagre rations.

Laugh
By:
247lol
When: 29 Nov 10 19:09
Suppose not liking Cher or arguing wether she cant or cant win is the problem here.
The real problem is your judging her on what you like,and whose to say your not the one in the minority.
When it comes to figuring out who the winner will be,its a bit of an idea to look at who the public like watching,DOH !!!!!
10.5 million views of her audition on youtube,add to this the figures below.
Number of page Likes on Facebook

Cher Lloyd Love 1,099,124
Matt Cardle 354,072
One Direction 175,487
Rebecca Ferguson 100,889
Mary Byrne 99,959
Wagner 54,860
Katie Waiseel 37,208
Paije Richardson 23,099

Whose talking s**t now?,i prefer to back my punts with facts,not media bu***hit and lamebrain comments from some of the dopey knowalls on here.
By:
247lol
When: 29 Nov 10 19:09
can or cant,lol
By:
five leaves left
When: 29 Nov 10 19:14
The fact is 247lol, she's very hard to like and ultimately this is a popularity contest.
By:
George Bailey
When: 29 Nov 10 19:23
Actually quite interesting those stats 247. Shows 1D aren't really getting the teeny interest they really should be getting to keep in for much longer. Or alternatively shows they have wider appeal than I have given them credit for.

Obvious question though is if Cher is far and away the most popular why did she drop into the bottom two? Could it be there is a quantum leap between clicking "love" and picking up a phone? I hope the few people who love me would at least do that for me.

Either way please keep ploughing on what for you must be unbelievable odds as I want to lay off as at low odds as possible.
By:
Helmuthian Folds
When: 29 Nov 10 19:23
WRONG WRONG WRONG FIGGY!

Its a singing contest FFS, except for Rebecca where it is a how much you move contest obviously!
By:
247lol
When: 29 Nov 10 19:25
well i can see what your saying,but i dont have a problem with her,i just read it that shes a young kid,and that thing where she appears to be cocky sometimes is just her trying to be a grown up.
Look at the other occasions,first when she was nearly out the week before,she was visibly shaken,the fact all her dreams could be over was suddenly dawning on her.
Then the look on her face after Girlfriend ,shes a kid ffs,give her some credit,she may come across the big i am on occasions,but it must be tough for her sometimes.
Its just a line of defense,what do people want her to do,come across like some dopey know nothing school kid.
By:
247lol
When: 29 Nov 10 19:29
For someone that age to achieve so much in such a short space of time is amazing,if you still dont think she will win,then i suggest you go back to her audition and look at Cowells face,it was a look of disbelief,like he had just seen what he had been looking for after all these years.
A real talent,a real pop star,not just someone that could bang out a decent tune
By:
247lol
When: 29 Nov 10 19:36
Cher will set audiences alight when she starts performing professionally.
Cowell knows it and his comments are projecting her towards her goal.
Im not worried about negative comments on here,she is going to win,i think matt,rebecca and one direction will be happy to just be in the final.
Theres only one person that wants to win and is trying everything to win.
By:
247lol
When: 29 Nov 10 19:36
just to be
By:
George Bailey
When: 29 Nov 10 19:40
I take your point that she is really just a young kid who is a bit bewildered by the whole shebang and working out how she is expected to behave/react. I have absolutely no animosity towards her.  In fact I have just voted for her on survation as the candidate I would save.

I don't see why she has got the hater so wound up. I'd take her over 50 of the smarmy, biitchy, smug fake that is Matt any day.

Oh dear will the Matt lovers get on my case now Laugh
By:
topgun123
When: 29 Nov 10 19:46
agree on matt georhe
By:
topgun123
When: 29 Nov 10 19:47
247 ur forgetting one thing SHE CANT SING
By:
Henry VIII
When: 29 Nov 10 19:48
247 I love Cher. I liked her performances on Saturday, but try to show more about why you think she'll win (I'm seriously interested).

Facebook is one of the poorer tools, probably the poorest. Why don't you add up youtube views for Saturday?
By:
Henry VIII
When: 29 Nov 10 19:48
I should add that youtube is far from definitive, but the more info the better.
By:
247lol
When: 29 Nov 10 19:51
George,your making me laugh here,lol.
Reason she hit the bottom 2 was airhead Cheryl gave her a turkey song,imagine,the fans disliked it and didnt vote,simple.
And the reason one direction might not be so popular now is theres been a suggestion on the net that one of them might be gay,not exactly going to go down to well with the young girls.
By:
Henry VIII
When: 29 Nov 10 19:51
Here are likes / dislikes for Saturday itv.com

Cher      1364 927
    1454 847

Matt    3475 208
    1348 184
By:
GymTanLaundry
When: 29 Nov 10 19:53
247 - cher is a vile little urchin who can f*ck off back to her caravan in malvern.

you'll have to excuse me if don't take you seriously after your comments about her "no diggity" performance.
By:
squares
When: 29 Nov 10 19:58
I think Cher's biggest problem has been too much press interest, not necessarily all bad.

Between the audition and the live shows, there was just too much focus on her (most of it total cr@p like looking like Cheryl and what she was wearing) but DM/Sun readers were probably sick of seeing/hearing about her before the live shows began.  Gamu supporters were probably not too happy with Cheryl, Cher or Katie either.

And since the live shows, most of the press has tended to be negative and bad for her.  Many of her appearances on the show have tended to back it up - how she looks, talks, acts, etc. 

It could have been different.
By:
George Bailey
When: 29 Nov 10 20:00
Sad to hear that you think being gay means less votes. I suspect that says more about you than it does about the millions whose views you purport to represent. Will Young? George Michael as popular as ever? Who gives a sh*t about sexuality anymore?

You may have a point re the performance and her being in the B2. This seems to confirm that many people vote purely on what they see and not blind loyalty to the "brand".
By:
Mikeeey
When: 29 Nov 10 21:23
I doubt the news that one of the 1D boys may be gay will shock anyone or give them less votes tbh.
By:
247lol
When: 29 Nov 10 21:41
Why Cher will win.
First audition,look on cowells face,one of disbelief,like hes won the lottery.
Last Saturday,Cowells comments,if your a staunch watcher like myself,you will realise Cowell is always right,he is the only judge that knows what theyre talking about,and if he says "on the money",take it as gospel.
Actually picking the winner is simple,just listen to Simon,if hes bigging someone up regularly,they always win,Leona and Joe being 2 prime examples.
And even though Joe was being touted as the best act long before the final,you could still back him at a decent price when it got to the last 5 or 6.
Go on the itv player and watch all the acts and make note of the comments,and i would say he strongly favours Cher and Rebecca.
Halloween show,Cowell on Cher "by any standard that was absolutely incredible"
13th october show,Cowell on Cher"loved it,sounded like a record,you know what i like,you were so down after getting critism but showed your not cocky,actually take critism,handle it well,your focused and abitious"
this week,Cowell on Cher"that was on the money"
Simons right just about all of the time,but if you look back over previous series,i think his comments greatly influence the public.
The public do vote,but dont realise Cowells power of suggestion is actually telling the majority who to vote for.
On comments this year you would have to favour Cher and Rebecca,problem with Rebecca though is the MASSIVe confidence issues she has,she hardly moves at all during her performances,and on saturday it was clear for all to see from her body language that she was extremely nervous.
Rebecca may have an interesting voice,but i cant say she sets me alight,every track she sings is downbeat and has a very similar sound to it,i just couldnt listen to that every.
By:
247lol
When: 29 Nov 10 21:44
day
By:
247lol
When: 29 Nov 10 21:52
Gay thing not a poke at gays,simply a possible angle at why they may not be so popular,boyband=airhead young girls,gay member =airheads not so interested.
Kind of makes sense,i mean why do you thing these young girls follow them in the 1st place?
Is f all to do with music,ill tell you that.[:D]
By:
Mikeeey
When: 29 Nov 10 22:01
presumably they're not ALL gay - so they can attract both the airhead girls and the airhead boys too.  Probably one of SCowell's PR stunts anyway.
By:
A1 Bionic
When: 29 Nov 10 22:06
If you think being gay is a negative to 1 direction you should give up betting 247
By:
Henry VIII
When: 29 Nov 10 22:07
Good reasons (21.41 post). I agree Cowell likes the two girls best. Rebecca used to be his No 1, I'm not sure now.

However it's got to be noted that Cher has never been anywhere near Matt in the many polls, and there have been some good polls - sample of thousands, cross section or regions and ages.
By:
George Bailey
When: 29 Nov 10 22:26
You shouldn't be selective with the comments though. How many "geniuses" have the others had....Katie = Einstein Laugh

Cowell has to throw out the hyperboles to mask the fact that this lot are for the most part p*ss poor.
By:
247lol
When: 29 Nov 10 22:40
you are right,at 1st i thought it was the most competitive x factor ever,a better standard.
But as the competitions worn on,it is basically piss poor compared to other years,i mean ffs,surely they could have found someone better than Mary,Katie and the brick chewer aidan.
Cher should win because shes the most interesting performer,and i think shes someway ahead on youtube views,which i think is a good indication of public interest.
By:
George Bailey
When: 29 Nov 10 22:47
What's even more depressing is that a lot of these will have been "invited" to audition. katie with her sony/cowell contract just happens to queue for 10 hours to take her chancewith everyone else..yeah whatever...mary previous contestant in Irish contests....Matt with his record and band.

If "most interesting" was a factor Wagner would still be in so it must be a singing compettion after all [;)]
By:
247lol
When: 29 Nov 10 22:59
well when i said interesting,i did mean most interesting vocals.
Cher can sing well and has some very interesting vocals,but doesnt use them enough.
people tend to take to much notice of the rap.
Listen to all her performances,including the ones with the other contestants.
Thats another point,every recent winner has had a central position in any group tracks sung by the contestants,take note of Chers this year,another pointer?.
By:
GymTanLaundry
When: 29 Nov 10 23:03
people need to stop kidding themselves.

cher cannot possibly win a mainstream, high profile, popular vote reality tv competition.
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