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MC draw R1 (wc)Pouille, R2 Nadull is waiting, could be his big chance
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Just lot first set against Pouille! 6-4. What an absolutely awful set of Tennis from Thiem, absolute stinking garbage. Thiem is a decent player but if he plays like that against top tenners he will not win a set all year!
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really playing bad again, at least he's fighting. Maybe Miami wasn't the turning point of the season I've hoped to be
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THIEM must have some kind of injury. He can't be fully fit ................. Pouille has beaten him in straights and even he hasn't played well!
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He played well on the hard courts in Miami. maybe he's struggling to adjust to the clay?
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clay is his fav surface, trained with Fed last week cancelling Casablanca. His whole preparation for the season was somewhat disturbed by illnesses
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losing to compatriot G Melzer after beating (a probably not motivated) Fognini shows he has no consistency and confidence this year
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Still not convinced he is fully fit............ he was burying guys like Melzer and Pouille (who are basically Challenger level) last year. This year he seems to have no plan, no tactics and no idea when he goes on Court. Just hits it and hopes. Lets hope he is not just another one season wonder.
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1st top level tournament win in Nice vs L Mayer in a close match earns him a career best #30 in ranking (#23 in race), 1 week too late for a RG seeding. He's drawn there against Bedene, but Cuevas in R2 probably will be the end of the tournament.
As he has only a 2nd rd to defend from RG he might be seeded in Wimbledon, but given his poor grass court performance last year this might not be of much significance. So his main Goal is likely to defend Points won during July in Hamburg and Kitzbuhel to obtain seeding at US-Open, whee he has a 4th rd to defend. |
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only 31st the actual career high ranking
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looks dead on his feet
won't last long in this |
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lost in 4 close sets to Cuevas, converting only 2 of 22bps (compared to Cuevas 4/9), don't know why he was fav (1.9)
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after his 1st 2 wins on grass at a new career high #28, maybe even #26 next week, but for being seeded in NY he has to defend 150 pts from Kitzbuhel's final last year till then - possible, but not a walk in the park. Playing DC this week in Kitzbuhel (versus NED with 2 times winner here Haase), then Umag, Gstaad, and Kitzbuhel, probably seeded top 4 every time, followed by ATP1000 events in Montreal and Cinci.
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horrible match today. it's a small miracle he's at a career high atm.
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big shame as venue and surface was chosen to please him. Probably he couldn't stand the pressure of #1 at home. Failing on key points an issue through the whole season!
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what did you think about his second match? still the mental pressure? it was kinda (...) he didn't win a single set with all the support.
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He played better than on Friday, but Haase was on top when it mattered. Maybe it even would have been better to nominate Melzer with his 4-0 h2h vs Haase
 . Being 0-4 now in DC doesn't help either.In all he's not playing a good season, being ranked 26th now with that is the best you can get out of it. |
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While I thought he would lose vs compatriot AHM in Umag QF the win vs Monfils in SF has already almost secured seeding for US-O. Deserved fav in final due to h2h, though Odds maybe a bit low.
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you know more about thiem than me, but I think he'll win his 2nd here. He looks good, the kid.
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I did Dominic Thiem Wettquoten. Am I going to win?
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Thiem breaks first. *4-3
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Dominic Thiem wettquoten incoming.
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Dominic Thiem wettquoten landed.
EVENT / SELECTION MARKET / ODDS SETTLEMENT DATE STAKE (£) MARKET P&L (£) TENNIS D Thiem vs J SousaTotal 22.526/07/2015£172.89£161.22 D Thiem vs J SousaPoint Spread -2.526/07/2015£165.62£160.50 |
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very solid result (and level of play) following the DC debacle.
I wonder if Austrians don't feel a bit bitter after the last 10 days. |
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ranked 24th now and 22nd in race. Let's see if he adopts better to altitude now for the next 2 weeks.
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Next final in Gstaad, once more playing his nemesis Goffin now. Thankfully Goffin withdrew from Kitzbuhel, making Thiem #1 seed, where he might play AHM again in r2. Having to defend not much more but his US-O 4th round for the rest of the year he might approach and even sneak into top 20 by the end of the year, esp with his home tournament in Vienna upgraded to a 500-event.
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Having won Gstaad and being ranked 21 (15th in race), top 20 looks likely before US-O, transition to HC will decide if he'll keep it for end of the year.
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17th after SF in Kitzbuhel, now it's even possible to be seeded top 16 for US-O, though it's not easy unless someone ahead withdraws.
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again 2 r1 defeats in the pre US-O 1000 events, his results in big tournaments being rather poor this year apart from Miami
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I think this man will knock Murray out in the 4th. #justsayin'
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not sure Mugray will go that far, but Anderson likely to beat Thiem before.
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r3 exit vs Anderson makes him lose 90 pts, but he still is 20th (18th in race). He has 90 pts to defend for the rest of the season, his planned schedule being St Petersburg, Beijing, Shanghai, Vienna, Basel, and Paris. While he might win more than those 90 pts, I doubt he will win enough to improve his ranking to 16 for AO seeding.
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finishing the season with another loss to Anderson in r2 at Bercy 7-6(3), 6-7(4), 6-7(5). 1st time he came close to Kevin (h2h 0-4), but he even should have won, when he broke early in set 2, but failed to serve out missing on mp.
Summing up the season he started at #39, finishing at 19 (with an intermediate career high of #18) can't be called bad (while his score of 1600 wouldn't have been enough to award him top 20 in any of recent years), but it wasn't a clean run at all. He achieved a W-L of 36-26 on the tour, 1-1 in his only challenger and 0-2 in DC at home. He managed to reach his pre season targets (top 20 ranking and winning a tournament), which really did surprise me, as his preparation for the season was disturbed and he lacked his 2014 consistency from the start. After a W-L of 3-6 he dropped out of top 50 after IW, but immediately came back with a surprising QF in Miami (beating Lopez on the way). But this success was followed by unexpected losses on his favourite surface vs Pouille, Estrella Burgos and even G Melzer (in rain delayed Munich QF, which made him miss Madrid, where he was forced into qualies). After advancing to r3 in Rome vs a retiring Simon the tournament win in Nice was another surprise, while his r2 exit at RG vs Cuevas was to be expected on paper. His grass swing was only slightly better than the year before, scoring his first 2 wins on the surface. Returning to clay he lost to de Bakker and Haase in DC, but the had his run of success winning Umag and Gstaad followed by a SF in Kitzbuhel. Not surprisingly he started into the American HC swing with 2 losses, followed by a r3 at US-Open, and the rest of the season was mediocre as well. Looking closer into his results from a statistical point of view he was 4-4 at GS level and 8-8 at ATP 1000s, but 3-0 in his finals (all 250s). He scored 0-3 vs top 10 players, the highest ranked beaten were Simon (on retirement) and Lopez at #12, Gulbis @ 13 and Goffin @ 14. The complete statistcs (0-3 vs top 10, 8-8 vs #11-#20 (including 2 wins on retirement), 4-1 vs #21-#30, 5-3 vs #31-#50, 16-8 vs #51-#100, 4-6 vs #100+) underline his inconsistency over the season. While on clay he proved he can beaat top 20 playerson clay (5-1 with the loss coming from Wawrinka), it looks to me like he didn't have made any progress on hc. He knows he has to target the bigger events to further improve his ranking. What is your opinion? Can he develop an allround game, or will he remain a clay courter who is limited on hc and therefor fail to make top 10? What changes should he make to his game, or is his head limiting his progress currently? |
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mesmerised 07 Feb 15 13:42
^Have you considered following Dennis Novak as well, currently #312 He's currently ranked 217 and playing clay challengers in South America. After winning 6 ITF futures this season (5 on clay) he now seems to start getting some decent results on challengers too. Like Thiem he trains in the Bresnik camp (with Thiem's father). He probably will spend 2016 mainly on the challenger tour, if he progresses well he may try to establish himself on the main tour 2017. |
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Thiem plans to start the season in Brisbane and Sydney prior to Melbourne. As he has only 25 pts knocked off before Miami it is likely he will achieve a career high ranking dzring the first part of the season, though he will need SFs in 250s to improve, which won't be easy in Brisbane and Sydney. But being seeded in Melbourne r3 scoring 80 pts is the minimum target, and doing well in Rotterdam and Dubai 500s could be enough for a top 16 ranking and seeding in IW and Miami. If he does well there this could be the base for establishing himself in the top 16, as there are enough chances to score heavily on clay before his 3 tournament wins will be knocked off.
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I was surprised he beat Cilic in Brisbane QF, now he's rewarded witha match against the GOAT
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tough AO draw with L Mayer in R1, Goffin in R3 and Fed in R4
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win or lose i think Dom will go top 10. he has all the talent required.
slam win not out of the question but either way he's a talented lad. |