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By:
nicky27
When: 06 Sep 12 00:11
yarik , there are some 1.18 shots that are awful value and some that are amazing !!
so , the short odds all depends on the event !!
By:
chilipepper
When: 06 Sep 12 00:11
yeah layed half liability on Cilic now it looks like a back on Murray at around 2.50, much comfortable
By:
Swum
When: 06 Sep 12 00:11
BAM
By:
razz
When: 06 Sep 12 00:11
murray gifted that point away
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 06 Sep 12 00:11

Sep 6, 2012 -- 12:09AM, Gibbo99 wrote:


Er, not if you wait for matches like this. Backing Murray at 5-2 down on Cilic's serve would have only lost you a few quid if Cilic had held (approx £10 from £150 stake) due to the double break. It was in effect a free bet. As soon as Murray even smelt the break you're staring at more profit than your 1.18 bet. My point is it's all about entry points. You can have a free bet and scoop up over 100% of your stake in minutes instead of crapping your pants for an hour while Murray fights back, just so you can break even....see the logic here?


Now you're talking about trading too. That changes the ball game entirely.

If you're trading, choosing an entry point of 1.18 can be profitable but gives you less chance of finding an exit point. Whereas, your example of 3.15 gives you plenty of chance of finding an exit point.

By:
hollywood85
When: 06 Sep 12 00:11
hum... murray back to previous state?
By:
Swum
When: 06 Sep 12 00:12
Get on Cilic now
By:
shiraz
When: 06 Sep 12 00:12
Fair enough nicky27, each to their own.  I have been doing this fulltime for nearly five years.
By:
Swum
When: 06 Sep 12 00:12
Trade the momentum
By:
singero
When: 06 Sep 12 00:13
poor service game, chance now
By:
yarik
When: 06 Sep 12 00:13
Anyway it's harder to grade value when 1.18 of 1.08.
By:
singero
When: 06 Sep 12 00:14
1.0x coming up
By:
hollywood85
When: 06 Sep 12 00:14
crowd in with murray
By:
RichyH
When: 06 Sep 12 00:14
Murray is taking the piss out of Cilic here
By:
nicky27
When: 06 Sep 12 00:14
yeah shiraz ...not enough space here to reveal how I operate , would love to have a chat with you about strategy...if we met outside a public forum , although gut feeling can play a part in my decision making sometimes
By:
nicky27
When: 06 Sep 12 00:14
BOOM !!!
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 06 Sep 12 00:14
All over now for Cilic
By:
nicky27
When: 06 Sep 12 00:14
its all over now ...this will train to victory
By:
hdieu
When: 06 Sep 12 00:15

Sep 6, 2012 -- 12:10AM, nicky27 wrote:


FairPlay to cilic , the fact that he has held his serve twice this set , clearly demonstrates his mental strength


jinxed, broken from 40-15 up

By:
Swum
When: 06 Sep 12 00:15
What a mug, don't think it's over though
By:
nicky27
When: 06 Sep 12 00:15
gonna watch BIG MOMMA destroy sweet Ana Love
By:
morrillo
When: 06 Sep 12 00:15
cilic you dumass
By:
Gibbo99
When: 06 Sep 12 00:15
Dude, the whole point of betfair is so you can lay off (trade)...  as you say, leaving yourself so little room for manoevre when a 1.18 bet goes wrong is crazy. Punting is moronic if you're on betfair.

1.18 only ever gets you 1.18 of profit, no matter how good value it is?!???!!

Murray at 3.15 would take you approx 11 bets at 1.18. Why even bother at low odds? High risk, low reward...crazy.
By:
eyeball
When: 06 Sep 12 00:15
has cilic got anymore liquid left in his body...he is sweating blood !!!
By:
nicky27
When: 06 Sep 12 00:15
who else is gonna switch to BIG MOMMA destroying sweet ana Love??
By:
chilipepper
When: 06 Sep 12 00:15
You guys coul start specific topics. there is actually very little practical advice on trading on this forum.
By:
hdieu
When: 06 Sep 12 00:16
im on ivanovic
By:
;[p
When: 06 Sep 12 00:16
enyone have stream for mugray?
By:
morrillo
When: 06 Sep 12 00:16
no luck cilic
By:
;[p
When: 06 Sep 12 00:16
ok got it
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 06 Sep 12 00:17

Sep 6, 2012 -- 12:15AM, Gibbo99 wrote:


Dude, the whole point of betfair is so you can lay off (trade)...  as you say, leaving yourself so little room for manoevre when a 1.18 bet goes wrong is crazy. Punting is moronic if you're on betfair.1.18 only ever gets you 1.18 of profit, no matter how good value it is?!???!! Murray at 3.15 would take you approx 11 bets at 1.18. Why even bother at low odds? High risk, low reward...crazy.


How many people use Betfair for trading? I never did for a long time. I know seven other people who have Betfair accounts and none of them use it for trading - they use it for better value than traditional bookmakers.

By:
nicky27
When: 06 Sep 12 00:17
the single best advice I ever got was .... bookmakers have to bet on EVERY event ...as a trader/punter ...YOU decide when you bet and how much , what a luxury is that !!!
By:
hollywood85
When: 06 Sep 12 00:18
better value on betfair goes away cuz of commission
By:
singero
When: 06 Sep 12 00:18
problem for cilic is he was 45% on return through the first two, but in the third he's at 25%
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 06 Sep 12 00:20
Can't believe there are loads of empty seats. Is tennis just not that popular there or is it too expensive?
By:
morrillo
When: 06 Sep 12 00:20
murray turned this big server into a milos raonic mug
By:
hollywood85
When: 06 Sep 12 00:21

Sep 6, 2012 -- 12:20AM, Biscuit1979 wrote:


Can't believe there are loads of empty seats. Is tennis just not that popular there or is it too expensive?


schedulle today was all messed up... I think a lot of people just went home sooner

By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 06 Sep 12 00:21

Sep 6, 2012 -- 12:20AM, Biscuit1979 wrote:


Can't believe there are loads of empty seats. Is tennis just not that popular there or is it too expensive?


Not as many empty seats as at Roland Garros.

By:
Gibbo99
When: 06 Sep 12 00:22
Darlo, the entire point of betfair is to be able to lay off your bets. Hence the whole 'IN PLAY' advertising splashed everywhere. Using plain ignorance to justify backing sports events at 1.18 isn't working mate.
By:
nicky27
When: 06 Sep 12 00:22
back to SP Crazy

SP was 1.1 right ??
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