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Eurovision 2025
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Looks like Fredrik Rydman will be the staging director for Louane. More hype.
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Thanks for your feedback on Sweden.
I've managed to buy half of my lays back at the the same price I sold them at. I listened to the track a couple more times and I can see its more catchy than I originally thought. But I think must be an awful year if that's the winner. I'm wondering how many of the public voters will be hearing it for the first time on final night? Also listened to a few others, IMHO Israel's entry is way above the others, in that it has all the right notes in the right places, well crafted and well produced. I can see it winning the jury votes, but don't think it'll score enough in the public vote to win overall because gaza war is not popular. G'luck |
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Surely the vast majority of people voting will be listening to for the 1st/2nd time. On that basis I don't think they'll get 300+ televote scores, but with jury bias/buzz about the song it could get an inflated score with the juries (as we saw, and Mans was fuming about, at Melo)
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Sweden being smashed on. I think juries are influenced by hype and popularity and these guys at the moment have all of that. It's super catchy so could do a Cha Cha Cha but with no Loreen to stop them winning.
Not long until we see Louanne at the weekend and what she brings. |
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I was listening to the Spotify Release Radar earlier, and KAJ randomly came on. They are starting to pick up a lot of stream now.
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Can see that logic, but it is basically a fairly rubbish 'song' -if that's enough so be it, but it remains rubbish (IMO)
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Sorry, missed some later posts, my post was in reply to points about Sweden
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It's okay, France have this
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why is France at 5.5 and their song is not even released yet?
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Louane (huge star) + her comments about it + performing at Stade De France + the weakest field of all-time = France have a good chance
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I've been backing France (I think average is around 9s now) due to the above, but yeah it is short.
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Wonder if someone has heard it and backing it, as took a plunge today. Or just a nervous market. Israel finally drifting properly.
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Hmmm I wonder. I put 500 up at 8s, got some matched, then the price went to 7 straight away. So, I think the market is twitchy and getting worried they will miss out on the winner, with it being a weak year.
Also, let's be honest, most people weren't aware of the Stade De France performance tonight. So could be a buy the rumour, sell the news event. |
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Sigh
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Sorry dude. Not good at all.
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What percentage of votes do you think will be first time listeners or second time listeners (including the semi final)? I feel like Sweden needs more than one listen to get into it. The irony that Sweden had so much money because of Mans but they've got a much better chance as he was beaten by KAJ
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After listening to the studio version, France isn't as bad as I thought. I think this is still a contender for jury winner, though televote looks very hard unless they stage it exceptionally well. Either way, I'll likely jump ship during EuroJury.
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Studio may be better but there's another song in French that's going to win this.
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* mostly in French
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AR I'd also like to know that, I would guess most in the final are first time viewers but viewers that saw the semis are bigger fans and more likely to vote. However I think KAJ is pretty instant.
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Based on initial listens I had my top 5 likely winners as:
Finland Austria Sweden Czech Netherlands So ignoring Israel it has 4 of the top 5. Czechia is a huge anomaly though which the market is saying I've read very wrong. It's a system which has served me well. Especially with Italy and Ukraine last year. Italy went as big as 3/1 to win the big 5 at one stage! |
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Italy was a lovely song, but yeah, was never going to have enough to win. Bit of a flop. Would have loved the 3/1 on the big 5 though!!
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Italy top big 5 2023* I mean. Due Vita song
In 2024 it showed me France and Ukraine as value for top 5, both were over 4.0+ iirc. Think Ukraine even higher after being awarded it's early slot |
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Netherlands Henry is alluding to I think !
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His live version was very very good so definitely more of a player than I thought initially
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Yes Netherlands, sorry to be cryptic. France has come right down in price LPM 10.
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She did seem nervous. And what do you think of JJ's only big audience experience - The Voice 2020 and a similar Austrian show? He was nervous. Nerves can kill a song unfortunately.
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She said it is the most scared she has been in her career. That said, it was infront of 90k people, millions of rugby fans, millions of Eurovision fans, about her mum, huge expectations, while floating in the sky.
The Eurovision final will be easier |
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That's my worry with JJ, Henry. Those high notes need to be perfect or it will go down very badly. Will be exposed in pre parties, IMO
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I think that's why Sweden are favourites. We know their production level and staging and vocals all work for the song. And we know jury's are aware of hype and like Sweden in general (so there is bound to be a bias for this entry imho) so they could easily get top 3 public vote and jury which looks good enough to win it. I've heard two different interviews with jurors of the Cha Cha year that admitted that they heard the hype for Cha Cha and probably gave it a higher score than it would normally have got. Plus we know Loreen obviously got way more than what she would have done had it been a random from Cyprus.
France look like needing a Swiss style jury vote to pull this off and I don't see that happening. They've had better efforts recently and not topped the jury vote, let alone crushed it. I took them on at single figures along with Israel. JJ does perform at the Royal Opera in Vienna so I'm not sure he will be fazed. He's obviously miles better than his The Voice efforts which I thought were pretty weak. That said it's obviously even more unique an occasion than the Royal Opera and he's not singing opera pop there. |
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Austria, The winner is Austria.
Israel is the best song, but I don't think ESC will want to hold the competition there in 2026. So unless ESC do a deal to hold it elsewhere in 2026 if they win, then Austria will win it. Austria has single young attractive boy, high pitch voice, vocal intonation, some emotion, and a fairly well crafted musical progression-conclusion. All assets which combine to make it appealing to the judges and the televoters across Europe. Sweden's song assets are narrower, it lacks emotion, it's a 'joke' song relying on having a catchy hook which is debateable and needs listening too a few times to catch. As I've mentioned before, I'm an ESC novice, so make your own mind up. G'luck |
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If it was based on studio performance/video then I would be inclined to agree (although still feel it’s quite short). I think it will sound a lot different live, though. The studio is very smooth on the ears, and I just can’t envision that for the live performance. I actually think a lay of top 5 could be value. But yeah, it could also sound amazing and he runs away with it haha. Looking forward to finding out
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After laying off some of my France guys as low as 9s, I’ve bought back some in the 15s and will look to add more. I think it’s kind of opposite to my post above, in that the live performance has meant some have written off Louane, but the ESC performance will be a LOT better and juries will still reward it. No guarantees, but it needs a better sound system and has the best staging director working on it, so I think it trades in single figures again
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Austria song lacking in so many departments for me, no catchy chorus, hardly going to get people tapping their foot or singing along, words are difficult to make out unless you listen half a dozen times, almost depressing to be honest.
I’m not brave enough to lay but personally think it should be closer to double its price at the moment. Sweden green Isreal huge green France Top 10 My only bets so far Would consider bringing Netherlands onside but not until things become clearer. Huge green on Isreal is due to politics, not because I think it’s a serious winner in a level playing field. |
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I got rid of my lays for that very reason Lifter. France a definite player looking at feedback online. Happy to admit I was initially wrong in downplaying them. Anything can happen at this stage still. In 2017 many couldn't see past Italy at this stage, and Portugal were 5th. France and Netherlands both fit that mould right now.
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