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By:
johnnyrant
When: 31 Mar 14 19:55
Sweden is incredibly old-fashioned and dull, chaps. Struggle to see how it wins a 2014 song contest. A shame there isn't a bit more strength in depth in the Sweden semi as I'd be laying it to even qualify.
By:
MilanBarosh
When: 31 Mar 14 20:19
call me old fashioned and dull but i like Sweden...if i had a free bet to back either Armenia or Sweden, i'd back Sweden top 4 @1.96, i think that's a safer bet than Armenia to win @1.9
i can't see Sweden winning thou for the obvious reason...Loreen 2012.
By:
Corbyguy
When: 02 Apr 14 17:51
It looks as though Sweden is on the way to winning the OGAE poll vote for this year. Out of 40 OGAE clubs to vote the results of 2 clubs Belarus and Bulgaria are now known and Sweden gets the top mark by both clubs. The top 5 after the votes from the 2 clubs are as follows:

1. Sweden 24
2. U.K. 18
3. Armenia 14
4. Russia 12
== Ukraine 12

Belarus voted: 12 Sweden, 10 Armenia, 8 UK, 7 Ireland, 6 Russia, 5 Ukraine, 4 Switzerland, 3 Germany, 2 Slovenia, 1 Austria.
Bulgaria voted: 12 Sweden, 10 UK, 8 Austria, 7 Ukraine, 6 Russia, 5 Belgium, 4 Armenia, 3 Greece, 2 Estonia, 1 Macedonia

The OGAE poll has chosen the same winner to the contest 4 times (2007, 2009, 2012 and 2013) out of 7 years since 2006.
By:
johnnyrant
When: 02 Apr 14 18:23
Overall OGAE doesn't have a very good strike rate so I personally think it is a bit of a red herring. I hope it encourages lots of people to back Sweden for the win though so the price drops considerably and it becomes a value lay.
By:
bearcub
When: 02 Apr 14 19:41
4 winners out of 7
By:
johnnyrant
When: 02 Apr 14 20:09
It's not a remotely decent strike rate, bear, given the context of the ones 'OGAE predicted right' - 3 runaway winners that anyone could have guessed - Norway 2009, Sweden 2012 and Denmark last year. It has been way off many times.
By:
bearcub
When: 02 Apr 14 20:15
Some of us would be happy with a 4/7 strike rate JR Laugh
By:
johnnyrant
When: 02 Apr 14 20:50
drill down into its results each year, bear, & it's a poor barometer, mainly because ESC fans' opinions often do not extend to the wider public.
By:
MilanBarosh
When: 03 Apr 14 08:00
apart from the fact Sweden won it in 2012 and are highly unlikely to win again so soon for this reason alone...i think you have got this one wrong JR...a lay in the semi?...crazy thoughts imo.
By:
johnnyrant
When: 03 Apr 14 08:25
Read my posts, Milan. I said I would be interested in laying it in the final if its price continues to contract, and the weakness of its semi puts me off laying it in the semi.

Do some research on OGAE polls over the year. I'm simply stating facts - their track record overall is poor and it has paid handsomely over the years to go against certain ESC fan favourites which have showed up well in OGAE polling.
By:
five leaves left
When: 03 Apr 14 11:31
This being one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSLnnnYtA5g
Female in her 30's, singing a very generic Eurovision song
By:
MilanBarosh
When: 03 Apr 14 12:07
this being another
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9whldXx42U4

in a poor year thou i doubt "undo" will be undone.
By:
five leaves left
When: 03 Apr 14 12:24
Before my time. Even worse than Hero. Utter dross. It must have been a poor year.

The one constant in recent years is that older/older looking females are overrated in the polls. As are the UK. Bonnie Tyler 5th last year Laugh
By:
bearcub
When: 03 Apr 14 12:29
I've yet to find a poll that has been anywhere near to being consistently good

I might need to cosy up to Bails Love
By:
five leaves left
When: 03 Apr 14 12:31
I doubt the HG covers Eurovision Grin
By:
bearcub
When: 03 Apr 14 12:32
It covers anything he has a green on Plain
By:
five leaves left
When: 03 Apr 14 12:33
Laugh
By:
five leaves left
When: 03 Apr 14 12:35
The Big Poll has had the winner in the top 7 every year it's been running/there are records for.
http://www.eurovisioon.ee/eng/bigpoll2014.php
It's had loads of songs in the top 7 or even top that have bombed though
By:
five leaves left
When: 03 Apr 14 12:42
Lithuania bottom Sad
For me it's the best song by a country mile
By:
George Bailey
When: 03 Apr 14 12:44

Apr 3, 2014 -- 12:32PM, bearcub wrote:


It covers anything he has a green on


The greens follow the HG not the other way round Wink....and no there is no HG for the ESC.....unfortunately.

By:
bearcub
When: 03 Apr 14 12:44
http://www.eurovision-bonsoirparis.com/crbst_178.html

The only poll worth looking at Love
By:
bearcub
When: 03 Apr 14 12:44
Surely you could make 1 up Bails Wink
By:
five leaves left
When: 03 Apr 14 12:48
Laugh
By:
George Bailey
When: 03 Apr 14 12:50
I spent ages last year going through all those top 10 20 30 vidoes on youtubes. It got Denmarkbut was shyte apart from that. Might just have a few more quid on Sweden and lay off in running.
By:
George Bailey
When: 03 Apr 14 12:51
keep digging bear Wink
By:
bearcub
When: 03 Apr 14 12:52
My attempt at 'cosying up' not going too well Sad
By:
George Bailey
When: 03 Apr 14 12:53
No your people skills are p1ss poor tbh Laugh
By:
five leaves left
When: 03 Apr 14 12:54

Apr 3, 2014 -- 12:44PM, bearcub wrote:


http://www.eurovision-bonsoirparis.com/crbst_178.htmlThe only poll worth looking at


It had that dreary San Marino song top last year, which didn't even qualify Laugh
A real fanboys poll

By:
five leaves left
When: 03 Apr 14 12:56
..and it had Lena 25th the year she won Laugh
By:
bearcub
When: 03 Apr 14 12:56
Someone called me a sad #### on the Grand National forum yesterday Cry

I think i'm just misunderstood Cool
By:
bearcub
When: 03 Apr 14 12:57
Conchita Love
By:
five leaves left
When: 03 Apr 14 12:58
Admit it bear. You like the facial hair
By:
bearcub
When: 03 Apr 14 13:02
If it tickles my balls im up for it Cool
By:
five leaves left
When: 03 Apr 14 13:06
PlainLaugh I prefer a woman with a feather duster
By:
five leaves left
When: 03 Apr 14 13:07
Just seen this on the news
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2595913/Help-Teenage-girl-gets-stuck-DRAIN-removing-metal-cover-try-retrieve-iPhone-feet.html
Related to hems?
By:
bearcub
When: 03 Apr 14 13:44
Hems wouldn't have got past his ankles Laugh
By:
hemsby
When: 03 Apr 14 14:23
I must admit,the diet hasn't really got off the ground so far Sad
By:
johnnyrant
When: 03 Apr 14 15:21
One of your ESC faves from yesteryear, fig Grin
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMF18nj0gd0

Not sure about her new look Shocked
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http://esctoday.com/79445/norway-new-vibes-stella-mwangi/
By:
five leaves left
When: 03 Apr 14 16:51
She looks good in the video.
Haba Haba was robbed. Wasn't that the year that the sound was terrible for the 1st few songs?
By:
johnnyrant
When: 03 Apr 14 17:09
yep, & they all failed to qualify inc. Albania, Armenia and Turkey - I layed that Turkish song heavily that year (I think you did too), & it's one of the shortest-priced semi songs to bomb out - think it was trading around 1.18…? Cool
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