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Will Norway get the votes from the east?
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Not a fan Henry?
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....when I saw the 48 this morning
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"Will Norway get the votes from the east?"
If they like it. Many of them gave 12s to Rybak. |
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Belgium's a bit too much for me. The same song with different lyrics... maybe.
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Isn't he half Russian?
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Rybak, not the Belgium guy
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Plus an excellent performer
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Just looking back quickly over the last 2 years it look like there's a difference between the Russian diaspora countries and the rest of East Europe. Although Loreen got a 12 from Russia and Latvia. And even the Russian countries normally gave some marks to something that gets lots 12s in the west
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.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2014#Gold_Final
Some very dodgy voting patterns in the Norway final. Lumberjack only won it because of western norway suspiciously big vote. Be easy to fiddle it on such low numbers. |
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He got 16,000 votes from the last jury. If he came from that part of the country that the televoters voted in then that would probably explain the huge difference.
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mmmmmmmmm big if. Maybe that's where his agent lives. Tells me if he can't hack up on home turf with the big o/r fav he will struggle to win this.
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oh AZZY AZZY...AZZY AZZY AZERBAIJAIN..STAYING in.
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Lumberjack born in Bergen which is in the west. If he needed a regional vote to win not surprised at the price drift.
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Can someone explain to me - as I have been out of the loop because of Cheltenham - how the Germans can be 18 on here before their final and 90+ after it? I just don't get it. One of the big nations. Have they suddenly morphed into the UK all of a sudden? It genuinely makes no sense
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They were 18 because it was expected that one of the favs would win particulalry Lena Mk II. When the wildcard act turned them over with a less than inspiring song the market reacted accordingly. I for one had them green on their potential.
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yeah but 90+ is some overreaction for a massive nation. They were always in the mid-20s last year despite a fairly average song
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Make that 150.France Finland and Estonia etc are all longer odds and Greece 95s. When you have a naff song the size of your nationhood becomes irrelevant. Size isn't always important.
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So why on earth did the Germans select it then? For a laugh?
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Specials betting rarely makes sense. I think this is the second time you`ve mentioned the German price, but I don`t see anything unusual in it. Many other songs have had mad price swings. When playing markets with so few (relevant) formlines, and so many variables, madness duly ensues.
Slightly more technical is the fact that a seemingly dramatic price change from 18 to 80 actually only represents a 4% increase in percentage-of-the-book terms. Mindblowingly strange, that`s less change than an even money shot drifting to 11/10! |
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Should say `90`, not `80`, but the point`s still valid.
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FFS!!! Also should have said `6/5`, not `11/10` Even so...
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Belgian final live now here:
http://www.eurovision.tv/page/webtv?program=98503 Running order: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgium_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2014 |
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One of the panel is Ruslana who won the 2004 ESC with the song Wild Dances.
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Ruslana seems to have gone a bit mental in the intervening decade, henry
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she's aged too. I didn't realise she was 40. |
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Belgium winner: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKiskf9Xi44
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Good old Axel. Interesting and well sung. Bit of a joker in the pack.
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Looks like a mummy's boy to me
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I don't think he likes his mother.
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Odds have shortened too now 4th fav.
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Good old tubby lad. Excellent song of it's type
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Layed some a little early. I reckon he will settle around 7-8
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tonnes?
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Grand
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Yeah you the master of ESC. I have missed the boat so may give it a miss and just let my smallish greens/reds run for fun. Cheesed off with Sweeden as my methodology has her doing as well as Erik but only dabbled at 15s.
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