whats the verdict on germany? the copycat of last years winner

the market dont seem to know how to price it

romania has that weird lady gaga style novelty abit like albania last year

i hate the germany song.

ive backed spain for big 5 at silly odds, 42.0 i think.
may back italy too, i dont really like it but the german one is tripe.

Denmark 65

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hahaha denmark 65! did you listen to that one drunk?

This is my prediction voting for the first 10 countries.

		SAN	SWE	ALB	NET	AUS	UK	ISR	SER	UKR	HUN
189	RUSSIA	3		3		2		12	6	10	6
171	AZERBAIJAN	7	1	5	6	7		7		12	12
160	NORWAY	4	12	7	8		5	2	4	4	7
156	ARMENIA	10			12	8		10	1	5
153	ITALY	12		10		6	2			2	4
139	SWEDEN	2		1	7	10	6	3	3		5
139	BELGIUM				10				7
135	GREECE	8		12	2		10		8	3	8
125	UKRAINE			2			1	4	5		1
96	GEORGIA	5						1		8
93	GERMANY		3	6	5	12
82	NETHERLANDS		5		4	4	4	6			3
75	BELARUS							8		7	2
65	DENMARK		8		3
61	ICELAND		4				3
57	ROMANIA							5
57	MOLDOVA	6				5				6
51	HUNGARY		7			1			12
43	IRELAND		6		1		12				10
41	LITHUANIA						7		2
40	FINLAND		10
35	UK	1		4						1
28	ESTONIA		2
26	SPAIN			8		3
26	MALTA						8		10
20	FRANCE

These are all from stats, though, so of course Denmark may do much better than this suggests, as indeed any song that is in with a chance of winning.

Yes, with the exception of the Netherlands, these are since 2007 for each country, averaged from the number of times they have competed with reference to each voting country.

If san marino and albania gives points to denmark then it could go on to win

They were 6.2, was a bit peeved to see 5.5 when I logged in just now!

In the SF in which they didnt qualify, it was because of the jury vote, not the televote, which had them 7th.

The lay of Denmark for top 10 would net you 10x the return.

if denmark does a charlotte perrellie then it will make you rich then

I'll be watching the Georgia votes very carefully..

Romania one cost me too RMB, and I was on at the bigger prices - took my stake back mostly, so not a big loss, but annoying to miss a big winner.

straight forward historical stats are not so effective now for ESC IMO.

never thought i'd see this - Billy Bragg on Loose Women now

I think I was saved this year from my own recklessness by not having much time – I would have probably backed Ireland against UK. Made nothing on Denmark, reasonable amount T10 and semis.

Eurovision: Azerbaijan probes Russian 'nul points'

Farid Mammadov (R) was given maximum points by Russia
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Azerbaijan's President Ilham Aliyev has ordered an inquiry into why his country gave Russia "nul points" at Saturday's Eurovision Song Contest.

Voters and the official Azerbaijan jury in fact gave strong backing to the Russian entry, according to officials.

Azerbaijan's state broadcaster suggested there may have been voting violations.

Russia gave the maximum 12 points to Azerbaijan's entry - a ballad by Farid Mammadov.

He came second behind winner Emmelie de Forest from Denmark.

Russia's Dina Garipova came fifth at the event in the Swedish city of Malmo.

Azerbaijan's ambassador to Russia, Polad Bulbuloglu, disclosed that President Aliyev had ordered an investigation and votes were being recounted.

He said that a large number of voters in Azerbaijan, submitting votes by text message, had supported the Russian Federation.

"According to this data, Russia should have received 10 points from Azerbaijan. An announcement will be made about this tonight on Azeri Public Television."

Camil Guliyev, head of the country's state broadcaster, said the failure to give Russia any points was of serious concern.

"We sincerely hope that this incident, possibly initiated by certain interest groups, will not cast a shadow over the brotherly relations of the Russian and Azerbaijani peoples," he said, without elaborating.

Azerbaijan, which hosted last year's contest, has traditionally tried to maintain good relations with Moscow though there have been tensions over energy in the past.