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Cider When: 06 Feb 13 19:44

People respect Taylor. Generally not a nice person but his sheer grit, determination, longevity and ability to pull it out at crucial times makes him a legend. Whether darts is a sport is questionable to say the least, so casual votes are hard to come by. If Muzza wins a slam he surely won't win so obviously that has to be factored.

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Darlo Bantam When: 06 Feb 13 22:41

Feb 6, 2013 -- 5:25PM, nigelpm1 wrote:

Feb 6, 2013 -- 10:40AM, Asparagus Man wrote:Very fair post that re Taylor cnman - his previous 2nd without massive effort does show some level of success in the format.Still think he will need a campaign and/or strong press support to do this though. Also remember he has no exposure on free to air TV.A wait and see for me - certainly until after WimbledonAlso remember he has no exposure on free to air TV. - This is the key point.

Neither did Mark Cavendish.

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nigelpm1 When: 06 Feb 13 23:12

Feb 6, 2013 -- 7:00PM, ShirleyKnot wrote:

I would commend considering Button people. He appears quick in testing and frankly if it came down to a Button head to head with Murray (or Taylor) he would win it hands down.I rarely do long shots but this is one.

I like it Shirley. F1 also big in the UK.

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nigelpm1 When: 06 Feb 13 23:12

Feb 6, 2013 -- 10:41PM, Darlo Bantam wrote:

Feb 6, 2013 -- 5:25PM, nigelpm1 wrote:Feb 6, 2013 -- 10:40AM, Asparagus Man wrote:Very fair post that re Taylor cnman - his previous 2nd without massive effort does show some level of success in the format.Still think he will need a campaign and/or strong press support to do this though. Also remember he has no exposure on free to air TV.A wait and see for me - certainly until after WimbledonAlso remember he has no exposure on free to air TV. - This is the key point.Neither did Mark Cavendish.

what didn't Mark have?

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Darlo Bantam When: 06 Feb 13 23:34

Sorry, I was for some stupid reason translating "free to air" as BBC. Still, ITV4 coverage was not massive exposure. I'd say the Darts World Championships on Sky had as equal audience as Tour de France, but that's only a guess.

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nigelpm1 When: 07 Feb 13 11:16

Feb 6, 2013 -- 11:34PM, Darlo Bantam wrote:

Sorry, I was for some stupid reason translating "free to air" as BBC. Still, ITV4 coverage was not massive exposure. I'd say the Darts World Championships on Sky had as equal audience as Tour de France, but that's only a guess.

Sadly not. Sky managed 1.27m this year - albeit it's highest ever :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDC_World_Darts_Championship

TdF had a peak of 3.6m this year :

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jul/23/bradley-wiggins-tour-de-france-tv

Up by a quarter on 2011 (Cav's year):

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radio/bradley-wiggins-win-boosts-tour-de-france-itv-audience-7965935.html

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nigelpm1 When: 07 Feb 13 11:18

The bottom line is Free to Air is always going to have much more exposure than Sky on a BBC SPOTY.

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nigelpm1 When: 07 Feb 13 21:01

some money coming in for taylor - very bold

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cnman When: 07 Feb 13 23:48

he just drew with MVG (2nd best in the world by a mile) after MVG traded 1.02 in the Premier League. has balls of steel like very few other in sport

How much free to air TV exposure did Calzaghe or Zara Phillips have? also, if you're talking about people being hated, Ryan Giggs was hated by enough ABUs etc.

Taylor will go mega low here, maybe not necessarily odds on but plenty of legs in it yet. you haven't missed the boat yet don't worry, you can reverse your 50/1 lay

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nigelpm1 When: 08 Feb 13 07:45

Feb 7, 2013 -- 11:48PM, cnman wrote:

he just drew with MVG (2nd best in the world by a mile) after MVG traded 1.02 in the Premier League. has balls of steel like very few other in sportHow much free to air TV exposure did Calzaghe or Zara Phillips have? also, if you're talking about people being hated, Ryan Giggs was hated by enough ABUs etc. Taylor will go mega low here, maybe not necessarily odds on but plenty of legs in it yet. you haven't missed the boat yet don't worry, you can reverse your 50/1 lay

Won't be reversing the lay and won't be losing either. Thanks for suggestion though ;-)

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nigelpm1 When: 08 Feb 13 11:19

PS. Having watched that game, the only reason MVG traded at 1.02 was his five(!) shots at a double to win it. MVG screwed up rather than Taylor having "balls of steel"

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rob_dylan When: 08 Feb 13 12:04

Broad at 500/1 is a fair shout. I love cricket and I love Ali Cook, but his price is ridiculously short. Ive been on Murray from the start, my stand out bet of the year imo when I got on him at 3/1. If he wins wimbledon then he wins spoty, if he wins the us or french then he prob wins too.

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cnman When: 08 Feb 13 12:38

yeah can't knock that rob. think any slam would be enough for him to win it. personally don't think he'll win any this year but value bet all the same

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Darlo Bantam When: 08 Feb 13 16:29

Winning the US might not be enough because he'll never win his maiden slam again. Wimbledon is where it's at for Murray. The one benefit US Open has is that it will be fresher in the minds were he to win it.

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DickyM When: 08 Feb 13 17:23

King Cav off to a cracking start with his new team - 4 consecutive stage wins on the way to overall Tour of Qatar win. 6/4 for TDF Green jersey.

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donny osmond When: 10 Feb 13 16:58

owen farrell looking worth a watch ....

although no welshmen got nominated in their grand slam year, maybe 6 nations is too early in the year for spoty

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Asparagus Man When: 10 Feb 13 22:10

Rugby union players can only win in a World Cup year imo

Rugby league players can't win due to reasons outlined in earlier posts

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rob_dylan When: 25 Feb 13 19:41

Becky James 2 golds, 2 bronzes. Not really in the mix, but the first surprise performance of the year to date iirc. Four golds and she might have been a runner, not added to the list yet afaics. Think I saw 50s on oddschecker earlier.

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Jim Duncan When: 26 Feb 13 12:52

Gareth Bale backed into 1.50 for PFA Player of the Year 2012/13 and on fire at the moment so could also win the EPL Golden Boot.

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donny osmond When: 20 Mar 13 13:31

wales win rugby 6 nations with a welshman likely to be captain of the lions on aussie tour ?

The Red Army will then 'march' back to Brisbane for the 1st Test against the Qantas Wallabies at Suncorp Stadium on Saturday 22nd June. Twelve years ago the Lions won the 1st Test here 29-13 and the Red Army took over Brisbane ! 'Waltzing O'Driscoll' was added to the Tour Songs repetoire and 'Delilah' roared louder than 'Matilda' !
Hopes will be high as the Lions' head south to 'sports capital' Melbourne for their game against the Melbourne Rebels on Tuesday 25th June. So many sporting, historical & cultural venues here will keep the Red Army busy prior to another huge Test confrontation against the Qantas Wallabies at the Etihad Stadium on Saturday 29th June.
The third and final Lions' Test vs the Qantas Wallabies takes place in Sydney on Saturday 6th July. All Lions' fans will be hoping for a series win, whether it's clinched here - or earlier in Melbourne !!

http://www.lionsrugby.com/2013tour/125th_anniversary.php#.UUmrahdShXE

i guess sky have rights to this but it might be part of a summer of aussie bashing, and may just take hold
and welsh people seem to love phone in votes !!!

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cnman When: 20 Mar 13 23:25

Murray should be drifting I think. Nadal was looking nearly back to his best and Indian Wells, leaving Murray with no chance at all (was only minimal before obv) of winning the French Open.

This also means another big contender for US Open and Wimbledon. Add to that JMDP's impressive form last week (beating Djokovic and Murray), I think Murray could easily go all year without a slam

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nigelpm1 When: 31 Mar 13 22:11

Mar 20, 2013 -- 11:25PM, cnman wrote:

Murray should be drifting I think. Nadal was looking nearly back to his best and Indian Wells, leaving Murray with no chance at all (was only minimal before obv) of winning the French Open.This also means another big contender for US Open and Wimbledon. Add to that JMDP's impressive form last week (beating Djokovic and Murray), I think Murray could easily go all year without a slam

Now second in the world. That on its own might be enough in a potential poor year.

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rob_dylan When: 06 Apr 13 12:30

Chris Froome now favourite for the tour.

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Jim Duncan When: 28 Apr 13 22:58

Gareth Bale has won 'The PFA Player of the Year 2013' AND 'The PFA Young Player of the Year 2013' becoming the third player to do the double (following Andy Gray in 1977 and Cristiano Ronaldo in 2007) and the fifth to win 'The PFA Player of the Year' twice ~ another Welsh left-footed winger SPOTY winner?

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DickyM When: 28 Apr 13 23:26

500 layer cant be happy

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Darlo Bantam When: 29 Apr 13 02:46

Even Joe Root has been backed shorter than 500!

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Jim Duncan When: 01 May 13 21:41

Joe Root might yet be the value at 500 ~ today he scored 236 and has now scored 527 runs from 3 innings for Yorkshire in the County Championship

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Darlo Bantam When: 01 May 13 22:22

Joe Root shouldn't be 500,000.

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Jim Duncan When: 03 May 13 22:18

Ronnie is now 1.26/1.27 for the World Snooker Championship ~ did anyone get on him for SPOTY?

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Darlo Bantam When: 03 May 13 22:29

I was thinking Ronnie might be a good shout last week. If he wins this, it remains a quiet year, and he retires, I can see a groundswell of public adulation winning it for him. Not sure there's much value left in his price though now.

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ColinLewis When: 03 May 13 22:40

Ronnie not a bad shout, but Sinfield even better....!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/22294380

Importantly:

"The BBC will broadcast live TV and radio coverage of all England's group games, plus a quarter-final, a semi-final and the final of the tournament which starts on 26 October."

Never underestimate the SPOTY pulling power of a major world cup tournament on home soil around SPOTY time of year and a tournament which bbc have the broadcasting rights to.

Arise Sir Sinfield as he is known oop North. Don't say you weren't told.

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Asparagus Man When: 07 May 13 17:49

You trying to lay Sinfield ColinLewis?!

For reasons outlined on previous posts he is shocking value - primarily as the shortlist will be announced before he has a chance to shine.

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ColinLewis When: 07 May 13 20:17

RL world final is 30 Nov.

SPOTY shortlist usually announced on the One Show last week in November (last Monday?).

Plan is that England will have reached the final when shortlist announced. If that's the case he should deffo make shortlist.

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bearcub When: 08 May 13 09:54

looks like Sir Alex getting a bit of support

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1.01 Layer When: 08 May 13 10:04

Nice little bonus for the layers

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donny osmond When: 08 May 13 10:50

i always thought bbc said a coach couldnt win this, but hey ho

special circumstances ?

anyway its suspended !!

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ahorsewithnoname When: 08 May 13 10:56

Betfair had Fergie in this market 2 or 3 years ago. I had laid a bit but then he was removed from the market and my bets void.

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ShirleyKnot When: 08 May 13 11:10

May 8, 2013 -- 10:56AM, ahorsewithnoname wrote:

Betfair had Fergie in this market 2 or 3 years ago. I had laid a bit but then he was removed from the market and my bets void.

Somebody made that point on twitter and requested confirmation that bets will stand this time around. I am guessing the market is suspended while they check it out.

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ShirleyKnot When: 08 May 13 11:12

If, as I suspect it does get voided again on betfair, there will be a few arbers caught with their pants down unless the bookies can be persuaded to void their bets too. We will find out soon.

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ratpoop When: 08 May 13 11:18

Did anyone lay others purely because they had just layed Ferguson. What a stuff up.