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i think winning spoty would be a great chance to flash his watch on live tv
sponsors like stuff like that, it makes a great photo players like to keep sponsors happy |
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He cares about winning Tennis games - hence why he didn't turn up.
Why won't it be same next year, if he's playing Oz Open? |
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Can he win it without turning up? I know it's possible, but fair negative.
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can't see it being a major negative if he has a good year in a potentially unexceptional year.
Thought he came across very well in last year's VT, and Calzaghe didn't turn up in his winning year. |
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Your 2013 SPOTY is in the quarter-finals of the World Cup of Darts at the moment. Hopefully be two titles in just over a month already this year
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50/1 on Taylor still available, don't look a gifthorse in the mouth
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i didnt see him in the bbc world darts
as bbc pick the short list, for the bbc sports personality of the year this may count against him ! |
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The Power looks like a 10/1 chance now
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Taylor has no chance. Why?
Darts not followed by enough people. He's a convicted criminal and full of himself. |
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I'd love him to be 10/1 - one of the best lays at that price
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Agree nigel. I checked the market to see if he really was that price. Only thing I could see worth laying into is Chris Froome.
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You guys do know he came second, just two years ago? Admittedly, on the back of a concerted campaign from his fans, but he only lost to a bigger campaign by McCoy's followers. Another campaign in this weak year, and who knows?
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On the premise I don't think the public knows who the hell Chris Froome is. He's not Sir Chris Hoy, he's not Cav and he's not Wiggo. I'm not sure he'll win the Tour, but I wouldn't give him a prayer of winning SPOTY even if he did.
I know what you mean about nerves. I'm not really going to enter this market - it doesn't suit my trading - but his price is the standout wrong price for me. |
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Only standout for me is Murray but bound to be opportunities to get him >3.5
Also lay of Taylor and Wiggo look safe |
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I think so yes. He has won as many Olympic medals as any other GB athlete, and he only won one this year. It's more difficult for me to say since I follow cycling. On the flip side, I backed Cav and I even got off my arse to vote for Wiggo, but I wouldn't vote for Froome.
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I'd be more nervous about laying Wiggo. He hasn't given up on Le Tour and could do the Giro-Le Tour double - a very rarely done double. And while he has won it once, he's firmly in the British public eye.
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Was just about to write very similar Tim - question is really whether that 2nd was his 'career nod' (a la McCoy, Giggs etc) or whether something could be made of it again.
Worth noting he divides opinions amongst darts fans - it's not likely everyone in darts would vote for him. I wouldn't want a big red on him for the possibility of a campaign, but depending on what happens in other sports a fair chance he won't even make the shortlist. |
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There's not TdF market here yet, but Froome is generally 4.5. He's 10.5 to lay for SPOTY on here. He has to win the Tour to even have a chance of winning SPOTY. Even with a Tour win I don't think he'll win SPOTY. A price of 10.5 is an equal chance on a shortlist of ten, and while it's months away and lots of hypothesis, I wouldn't give him an equal market chance of winning it were he to make the shortlist. To me, that price is an overreaction to the cycling fraternity getting two winners in consecutive years.
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wiggo will win the giro and nothing else. him doing the double is about 100/1 chance.
froome has zero personality and ive layed him at 9/1 for spoty- make him about 7/4 for le tour |
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"most darts fans dislike him" - this is wrong. there may be some who are bitter about his achievements, but at least 90% of true fans can appreciate how he is the greatest to play the game by a mile.
He's already won 2 major titles (World Championship, World Cup) this year with as many as 7 to come (Premier League, UK Open, UK Masters, European Championship, World Matchplay, Grand Prix, Grand Slam, Players Championships). Obviously he won't win them all, but he'll be favourite for all of them. The fact he's a convicted criminal may hold him back a bit, but not as much as you'd think (he came 2nd in 2010 as stated by someone before me). Also, saying darts isn't followed by enough people is a stupid thing to say. It's very popular in this country and still growing, look at some of the sh1te sports that have won it before. I was on Wiggins at 16/1 last year and I'm even more sure Taylor is a good bet this year. Murray and Cook are the only ones who can challenge him. He's an absolute GOAT, up there with Woods/Federer/Bolt/Hendry etc...I'm on at 125/1 and I don't intend to lay off until he goes odds-on, i'll be more than willing to top up at 100s if you're so sure he's such a good lay though nigel? |
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some of these wmmin cricketers and rugby players and netballers should be getting a look in a poor year
do yer own reserch !!! |
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Took the £23 available on Stuart Broad at 500.0 on here. Obviously had a poor couple of years for England but will play in the tests v NZ/Ashes and also the Champions Trophy. Took a hattrick in a warm-up game today, so hopefully getting back to some sort of form
Would be good if his batting picked back up so he could be a genuine all-rounder a la Freddie in 2005 (obviously with far less personality) |
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why is murray 3.35? thats got to be lay of the century!!
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Very fair post that re Taylor cnman - his previous 2nd without massive effort does show some level of success in the format.
Still think he will need a campaign and/or strong press support to do this though. Also remember he has no exposure on free to air TV. A wait and see for me - certainly until after Wimbledon |
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I would commend considering Button people. He appears quick in testing and frankly if it came down to a Button head to head with Murray (or Taylor) he would win it hands down.
I rarely do long shots but this is one. |