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By:
bexley
When: 17 Apr 12 21:00

Apr 17, 2012 -- 8:53PM, MilanBarosh wrote:


i've not said a lot about Sweden myself so here's my thoughts for what they are worth...firstly the staging is extremely dark as are the performers costumes...the female singer is really quite unattractive and the male dancer is fat(perhaps both are reasons for the darkness).the chorus is catchy but the song overall is rather dull for me...for this to be around 2/1 is absolutely ridiculous...i think this is highly overated probably due to that "Melodiefestival" thing they have in Sweden.


Here Here finally someone with some objectivity Laugh

By:
five leaves left
When: 17 Apr 12 21:02
funky insane as always Laugh

I wonder if we could find his damning posts about the last 2 winners Devil
By:
Henry VIII
When: 17 Apr 12 21:02
He's fat and she's boney so their average weight is really quite pleasant Happy
By:
George Bailey
When: 17 Apr 12 21:14
They should go on supersize v superskinny
By:
MilanBarosh
When: 17 Apr 12 21:17
5...fyi the last 2 winners actually won before the contest started...Lena was poor on final night and the Azeri female still can't sing in tune...how did they win?...Lena's song was quirky and unique... Azer had the ££££...simples.
what i have said in my previous post is my opinion of Sweden...no need to namecall...you big bitch you Laugh
By:
five leaves left
When: 17 Apr 12 21:22
Laugh I love reading your views funky. Even if most of them are crazy, you can often spot a gem
Those who followed you on moldova last year would have had a great trade.
By:
George Bailey
When: 17 Apr 12 21:22
Don't think Azer having the cash to host the contest would have been a factor in the mind of the viewer. Jury maybe but only because Cowell Inc has made us all cynics.
By:
five leaves left
When: 17 Apr 12 21:23
I would add Azer also had the song and excellent staging and topped the televote.
By:
MilanBarosh
When: 17 Apr 12 21:28
call me cynical but Azeri had ploughed an awful lot of £ into eurovision the 2 years before they won it...they then win it with a lavish set and an odd couple, the female could not even sing FFS !
By:
Henry VIII
When: 17 Apr 12 21:30
Lena was poor on final night

That's been overstated. I think the overall performance was great, with the camerawork better even than the video.
By:
honestcl
When: 17 Apr 12 21:32
Interesting comments re. Sweden.  I'm firmly a layer and while I think the song is pretty good I'm a little baffled as to way it's such a clear leader.  Loreen not especially attractive, staging dark, song 90's style (as were Iceland in 2010 and Croatia 2011 - neither did that well)

To me the odds for this year should mirror last week's Grand National i.e. no one under 10.00 but 7 or 8 runners all bunched up between 10.00 and 20.00
By:
bexley
When: 17 Apr 12 21:34
I can't wait for the rehearsals to start. This downtime in the middle is dragging by so slowly - anyone else?
By:
George Bailey
When: 17 Apr 12 21:37
I have measured out my life in ESC rehearsals Laugh...with thanks to TS Elliot and the Love Song of Alfred J Prufrock.....
By:
popking
When: 17 Apr 12 21:43
I know it's going back to days before the internet became truly popular, and juries etc. but 2000, 2001 and 2002 all had surprise winners, none of whom were close to the top of any polls.  Most were firmly rooted near the bottom.  There's not been a truly shock win since, but Italy nearly did it last year and whos to say this year won't be the one to buck the trend.
By:
five leaves left
When: 17 Apr 12 21:53
I hope you're right pk.

If Finland or the Netherlands win, you won't see me again Laugh
By:
bexley
When: 17 Apr 12 21:55
nah if there is going to be a shock winner its Malta leaves Laugh
By:
George Bailey
When: 17 Apr 12 21:58
Going by some of the comments on here Sweden will be the shock winner Laugh
By:
five leaves left
When: 17 Apr 12 22:02
Netherlands last matched @ 55 Laugh
By:
five leaves left
When: 17 Apr 12 22:03
The dream is on Grin
By:
bexley
When: 17 Apr 12 22:03

Apr 17, 2012 -- 10:03PM, five leaves left wrote:


The dream is on


to qualify?

By:
johnnyrant
When: 17 Apr 12 22:05
Netherlands for the shock win - currently trading at 12s on here. The shrewdies are piling on board Laugh
By:
MilanBarosh
When: 17 Apr 12 22:05
"if The Netherlands win"...................and i'm insane ? Laugh
By:
five leaves left
When: 17 Apr 12 22:06
Laugh
It wouldn't surprise me if it failed to qualify. Which would be a crying shame given some of the dross. They don't have a great record in qualifying.
By:
johnnyrant
When: 17 Apr 12 22:09
I reckon it could be one of those 'minnows heavily supported by the juries' types.
By:
bexley
When: 17 Apr 12 22:09

Apr 17, 2012 -- 10:05PM, johnnyrant wrote:


Netherlands for the shock win - currently trading at 12s on here. The shrewdies are piling on board


whatever next Laugh. When's the Montenegro gamble gonna start?

By:
bexley
When: 17 Apr 12 22:10
Damn some shrwedie has undercut me on Malta again... Devil
By:
five leaves left
When: 17 Apr 12 22:17
It deserves to be jr. She has a wonderful voice and the song is a real beauty. The Native american theme worries me as it could make the juries think 'novelty'. Which they always run a mile from.

12 now and I was last matched @ 340. It's like Jonty or Hira on steroids Laugh
By:
five leaves left
When: 17 Apr 12 22:20
The same could be said for Finland too which should definitely be rewarded by the juries.
By:
johnnyrant
When: 17 Apr 12 22:27
I agree - I could see both those sneaking through and favour them over a fair few trading at shorter in 'to qualify' betting.
By:
MilanBarosh
When: 17 Apr 12 23:00
the lyrics on the Finland entry are really filthy...starts off "jack & jill often have a stroke"...then "shoot an he blow"...also heard "licked out and used" the farrier, in there too Laugh
phucking love this tune like no other at the moment...come on sing along then Laugh

Tätt intill, doften av oss två
Vända sig om, samma skjorta i blå
Doften jag känner, vore inget utan dig

Som en sjö utan vatten som en lykta utan ljus,
ett liv utan färger det är inte du.
Nån man ser då man blundar som en ängel framför,
nån som hjälper en och flyga då man glömt hur man gör.
Kär utan känslor eller skratta utan ljud,
ett liv utan färger det är inte du.
Nån som glömt alla bekymmer, en kvinna med mod,
nån som fattar vad man säger fast man talar utan ord.

Sätt dig ner, vi håller din hand
Berätta vem du e, vi finns för varann
Alla minnen, vore inget utan dig

Som en sjö utan vatten som en lykta utan ljus,
ett liv utan färger det är inte du.
Nån man ser då man blundar som en ängel framför,
nån som hjälper en och flyga då man glömt hur man gör.
Kär utan känslor eller skratta utan ljud,
ett liv utan färger det är inte du.
Nån som glömt alla bekymmer, en kvinna med mod,
nån som fattar vad man säger fast man talar utan ord.

Som en sjö utan vatten som en lykta utan ljus,
ett liv utan färger det är inte du.
Nån man ser då man blundar som en ängel framför,
nån som hjälper en och flyga då man glömt hur man gör.
Kär utan känslor eller skratta utan ljud,
ett liv utan färger det är inte du.
Nån som glömt alla bekymmer, en kvinna med mod,
nån som fattar vad man säger fast man talar utan ord.
By:
five leaves left
When: 17 Apr 12 23:10
Someone has posted the English translation. I'll try and find it.

I've also tweeted the lovely Joan Franka and suggested she might change the costumes. I doubt she'll listen, but GB2 & jr have had success on that front. Grin
By:
five leaves left
When: 17 Apr 12 23:14
Close to each other, the scent of you and me.
Turn around, the same shirt in blue. (blue a lucky colour in ESC. Who can forget Lena's new blue knickers)
The scent I can smell, would be nothing without you.

Like a lake without water, like a lantern without a light.
A life without colors, it's not who you are.
Someone you can see when you close your eyes, like an angel in front of you.
Someone that teaches you to fly, when you've forgotten how.
Love without feelings, or to laugh without sound.
A life without colors, it's not who you are.
someone who has forgotten all troubles, a woman with courage.
Someone that understands you, even though you speak without words

Sit down, we will hold your hand.
Tell us who you are, we are here for eachother.
all the memories, would be nothing without you.

Repeat Part 2 twice.
By:
five leaves left
When: 17 Apr 12 23:16
It loses a little in transaltion I suspect. I'm glad they kept it in Finnish/Swedish
By:
jack12321
When: 18 Apr 12 00:05
Signing into the anti-Sweden club - as far as I can see dance tunes only do well if done by an exceptionally good looking male. All the people who like clubbing will be out clubbing on a Saturday night ffs!

Had the Netherlands song in my head all day - cracker of a song Laugh would make my year if they won

"jack & jill often have a stroke"...then "shoot an he blow"...also heard "licked out and used" LaughLaugh I hear it too
By:
Lonnegan
When: 18 Apr 12 05:53
I'm in the pro Sweden club. To me it's one of the few songs that upon first listen stood out as something that I could envisage hearing on the radio and that had commercial appeal, something which I think has become a significant factor in determining the winner in the last few years.
Its well performed and one of the few songs in its genre this year, so I believe it certainly has the potential to resonate well with both the public and jury, which is something I cannot say for a lot of the other entries.
In saying that it represents no value at the current price as there is just too many variables at this stage (final staging/draw), however for me its still a worthy favourite.
In terms of current value Ive been chipping away at Norway and Romania, as they were the other entries that appealed to me on first listen as being unique and also having the ability to rate highly in both the jury and televote.
By:
honestcl
When: 19 Apr 12 05:26
Just seen this posted on teh eurovision.tv site.  A lot of made of youtube hits but this chap has actually anlaysed the 'likes and dislikes' (something I have to admit has never occurred to me if I'm honest.)   It's not that outrageous to think of the ones at the top of this chart finishing near the top.  Montenegro is obviously high on first glance.  The big surprises are Norway and Sweden both in mid table.  Pretty much the entire bottom 20 reflects what you'd expect (except for the excellent France!)



Posted on 12/April 2012 at 14:01 by a user

atomrax
Currently, ranking given by the ratio of likes and dislikes on youtube is:

Russia 4278
Cypru 3754
Great Britain 2537
Azerbaidjan 2532
Germany 2328
Spain 2117
Turkey 1925
Romania 1888
Island 1717
Italy 1455
Albania 1397
Montenegro 1286
Estonia 1252
Ireland 1188
Greece 1153
Hungary 1127
Serbia 1063
Suedia 1048
Croatia 930
Norway 910
Slovakia 903
Bosnia H 830
Macedonia 787
Latvia 740
Denmark 731
Malta 712
Finland 673
Slovenia 637
France 606
Switzerland 571
Ucraine 536
Moldova 513
Lithuania 485
Belarus 427
The Netherlands 419
Portugal 328
Israel 285
Bulgaria 210
Belgium 49
Austria -154
Georgia -368
San Marino -1041
By:
bexley
When: 19 Apr 12 09:14
Interesting enough honestcl but the fact Russia and Cyprus are at the top almost instinctively make me distrust its findings Cool

Can anyone who perhaps noted these last year tell me whether Loreen is ahead of Eric Saade in youtube hits and i-tune sales at this stage. Even a rough approximation? Ahead, Equal, Behind?

If they were behind then I'd just about write off Swedens chances of winning tbh, failing a 21-25 draw in the final (if it makes it through)
By:
MilanBarosh
When: 19 Apr 12 09:43
hey bex...when do the rehearsals begin ?
thanks.
By:
bexley
When: 19 Apr 12 09:50

Apr 19, 2012 -- 9:43AM, MilanBarosh wrote:


hey bex...when do the rehearsals begin ?thanks.


http://www.allkindsofeverything.ie/Schedule12.html

13th May

By:
MilanBarosh
When: 19 Apr 12 09:55
rapido...muchas gracias senor.
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