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He won a grand slam with Eddie's Team. Furelli will be seething when he reads this
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He does have a point
Since the grand slam era Irelands win rate has fallen to 54% under Eddie we were always just one match away. The 2007 side still ranks with me as teh best side Ireland ever produced and were the boucne of a ball away from the grand slam they deserved when France scored in the dying seconds and would have won had O Driscoll been fit They annilated Italy & England that year and disposed of Wales in Cardiff clinically. Of course the RWC 2007 was an unbridled disaster but what cannot be argued is that Eddie had fantastic campaigns in 2003,2004,2006, 2007(one defeat in each) and Ireland under Kidney look to be going backwards Yes the supposed golden generation are getting long in the tooth but he has Ferris, O Brien, Heaslip, Murray, Sexton, Earls, McFadden coming through The rules of rugby were changed after Ireland won the grand slam in 2009 and Kidney has not adapted well enough We are now a team who can pull off one good result each campaign as opposed to a side who win 4 out of 5 games in the 6 nations and theres no shame in that when you need luck with injuries and a smaller pool compared to France Backline needs to be revolutionised(more brute strength and trying to go through the door instead of around it) and Ireland showed no intensity on Sunday and deserved to lose |
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I would argue that Szarewski is in to strengthen the lineout. For me, Servat is far better around the park, a far better player in general, but he missed his man on at least three occasions last week and I'd say that's why Szarewski has been given the nod.
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The pitch will act as a leveller tomorrow. With hot air being blown onto it under blankets, I suspect it will cut up badly. I'd be very surprised if France can pull away in the conditions and the Irish defence can't be any worse than last week. A hammering would probably be the best thing long term, but I fear we might eke out a victory and the papers will be gushing with praise for DK on Sunday. One thing's for sure, he won't walk.
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Come back Eddie, all is forgiven
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If there was a 6N award for misplaced confidence the Irish supporters would win hands down,I'll agree there is no intensity what the team needs is another national anthem to fire them up or send the opposition to sleep.
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i'm betting on the pitch conditions, forwards parity and well-drilled defences to turn this into a grinding war of attrition
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I predict a riot.
A few interviews from within the camp this week have suggested the need for Ireland to go to war. It might be just the usual cliched chat, but France have had us in their pocket for a long while and its hard to even begin to know how we can beat them. We might as well try something new, and we might just try getting nasty. Decco's neck is on the line tonight. And a few of the players necks. It's do or die. Also Dave Pearson is in charge. Having bottled showing a red whilst linesman last week, he might just be a bit trigger happy this week. You can back a red card at 20/1. Not outstanding value I know but I just have an inkling. Was thinking of doubling it with a red in Man U Liv game, but a red in that game is a very disappointing 9/4. |
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"It might be just the usual cliched chat, but France have had us in their pocket for a long while and its hard to even begin to know how we can beat them."
It might be cliched but it's little wonder we don't beat the French more often when this attitude is prevalent, listening to Irish ex-players from the amature era bang on about french flair ... blah blah blah. The English have the opposite attitude towards the french and it works ... ![]() |
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http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_7503567,00.html
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Pacific, I am not suggesting we have a defeatist attitude against the French anymore. Beating them at provincial level has put paid to that. The fact is however, that they dominate us at international level.
The English attitude against the French is to try and bully them, frankly it;s the only option open to England vs France anyway. We have tried to outplay France and it hasn't worked. Time to go old school. |
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Hard to not be defeatist when you have lost 11 from 12 and have one win in Paris in 40 years.
You'll get old school alright if ROG starts. Proper old school shyte. Fra must be licking their lips at the prospect. 1/4 beckons. |
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Pitch inspection 90 minutes before kick off, game could be in doubt
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ICBD, just sick of hearing the constant drivel from cliched old hacks and ex-players from the amature or close to the amature era shamelessly mumbling on about french flair etc (which imho is their own 'unique' way of saying that they were forever hammered. Last year I thought Ireland played all the rugby scoring 3 tries to 1, D'arcy's no tackle on Rougerie and gave away a hatfull of soft penalties to an in-form Parra, and still could have won it if Cronin held onto the ball with the line open.
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This is true, Ireland did "outplay" France in terms of attractive rugby.
The problem they had was that every time the ref said "hands off" or something similar they completely ignored him. Penalties inevitably followed. If you play France these days you have to be very, very disciplined as it is a sure thing that they will be. |
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It was kinda bizarre alright, with Parra kicking penos from everywhere in his half in the warm-up. Remember 2 years ago Flannery mistaken Palisson for a football.
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flannery yeah i rememer that alrite just pity no BOD
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Flannery is the epitome of that problem. Great player when his head was right, but prone to doing really stupid things. BOD on the other hand is the exact opposite, which is why he is a great.
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agreed jerry was a lose cannon BOD is just a machine
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any updates/news re pitch inspection?
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RTE reckon the game will go ahead.
i don't think the surface will be that bad - well not soft like it was in Rome as can't see there being overly much moisture in the surface |
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Next inspection is at 6:30 isn't it?
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i think so, covers come off at 18:15 & pitch inspection 90mins before ko (18:30) jus trying to find local conditions etc before staking too much too early in case of p-p to i guess tomorrow afternoon.
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I'm seeing -2 dropping to -6 by KO - clear dry evening Strongly believe they will let this go on.
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RTE are now saying match deffo on. Must have inspected earlier than we thought
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Worried about this game tbh, i think we papered over the cracks last week against wales when been honest wales poor kicking kept us in the game.
poux back in the front row scares me, if he scrummages the way that he can do (and is let) we could be destroyed in the scrum, add that to a weak defence in midfield and we could be hockied. decision on sexton being delayed until before kick off, that strikes me as not good, if o gara starts it just weakens our midfield even more. sad to say im expecting a 15-20 point defeat and have taken the 2.30 available here with france -9.5. hate backing against my own team but i firmly believe that kidney has shown us his limitations and its time for him to go. |
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I agree with you that Ireland had a lot of issues last week that haven't been looked at too deeply. Their numbering up in defence was oddly poor for an international team and if they do that against France there could be serious trouble.
Hard to be sure of anything until we know the state of the pitch though. Could be a real leveller, as long as Ireland can show the intensity that Munster, Ulster or Leinster keep on showing in the Heineken. |
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Thats if yer go with the form book, when do Ireland play to the form book thou?
Adversity & bad weather plays into ireland's hands tonight although I do fear for us when we've the liabilty at 13.... stick earls on the wing or play him off the bench, still not convinced by him at Int level... need a good head to play at the top level & sadley too many of the irish team play with only their hearts - thats our real weakness when it comes to being a top 4 side in the world (Semi-finalist) I hear what yer saying b68 but i'm a bit more optimistic (green-blinkered morelike) for tonight |
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How does the pitch help the lightweight Irish centres exactly,going to get flattened same as last week.
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Ahem RM but was there not enough intensity in the Connacht performance against quins for you ????
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So the market is saying the French have as much chance as England did against Italy ?
While I know England won,to a point the layers were correct for a while.I just don't see that in this game. |
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Sorry Ballaman, that was a nasty oversight!
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apology accepted RM from a proud but sadly deluded westerner
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i've got Fra down as the least dodgy fav of the weekend - I had Eng as worst and to be honest sub 1.20 I'm deffo having a look at Wales too. Less than 4.5 for an Irish win as Paris just looks bad value to me.
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2.40 available on the hcap now, thats a fair drift in the last hour or so, have the french no studs on their boots?
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a lot of assumption that what happens in Rome, happens in Paris. The big difference is Paris has no snow.
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a tight tactical affair - under 41.5 pnts at 365 currently available at 10/11 will last no longer than 10 more minutes - Get On!
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It's cold which makes the Irish somehow a better team
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a tight tactical affair - under 41.5 pnts at 365 currently available at 10/11 will last no longer than 10 more minutes - Get On!
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I agree with Vis.
The French look overpriced(they have only been beaten twice at home have they not ?) I don't back at those sort of prices,but while I was happy to lay England I really wouldn't wanna lay France at the same price(Que Ireland scoot up) |