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A crowd of people has protested outside a police station in Greater Manchester, amid anger over a policeman filmed kicking a man in the head at the city's airport.

Chanting "shame on you", the protesters in Rochdale accused the police of institutional racism, footage from the protest online appears to show.

Greater Manchester Police said it understood people's "immense feeling of concern" and respected the right to protest - and that the demonstration had finished "safely without incident".

The force has referred itself for investigation and removed one officer from operational duties following the kicking video.

The video, filmed at Manchester Airport on Tuesday evening, shows a male police officer holding a Taser over a man, who is lying face down on the floor.

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By:
irishone
When: 25 Jul 24 06:36
"The officer then appears to stamp on and kick the man in the head, while other officers shout at onlookers to stay back.

The video was widely shared on social media and has been described as "truly shocking" by the police force itself.

At the protest on Wednesday evening, a crowd of what appeared to be several hundred people gathered outside a police station in Rochdale.

The Manchester Evening News reported that one of the protesters had told the crowd they were "no longer going to settle" for "police brutality".

GMP said its officers had been called to Terminal 2 of the airport at 20:25 BST on Tuesday following reports of a fight.

It said while trying to arrest a suspect, three of its officers were violently attacked and punched to the ground. One officer suffered a broken nose and all three needed hospital treatment."


HHHMMMM Rochdale ?  Now where have I heard that town before ?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 25 Jul 24 10:14
It looks to me like the police used reasonable force to subdue dangerous criminals.

Well done the police for a change.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 24 10:26
HHHMMMM Rochdale ?  Now where have I heard that town before ?

mmm where have you heard of that before?

Why do you bring it up?

You are becoming a clone of Crippen with your stupidity. Why don’t you follow his last post and confirm you agree that you like to see Policemen kick and stamp the head of a prime man with his arms by his side who is totally defenceless? Maybe you would like to see Spanish Polhcdmen do that to random tourists?

The pair of you set such a low bar you are not even funny. You might appeal to the likes of casemoney but why do you chose to target such low hanging fruit? You both need to raise your game or you will just be ignored and deemed not worth the effort.

Come on ladies you can both do better!
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 25 Jul 24 10:34
You are becoming a clone of Crippen

I'm sure he's doing his best, but he'll have to up his game if that's his aim.
By:
dustybin
When: 25 Jul 24 10:34
I notice the clip most used is about 5 seconds loop of the copper kicking a man on the ground in the head.
There is a police woman with an apparent broken nose too that seems to be overlooked
Do those protesting believe the male policeman chinned his own colleague?

If a person complies with an order the policewoman doesn’t get a broken nose and the name doesn’t get kicked in the head

And if in such a sensitive area as an airport a conclusion has been arrived at to not proceed with caution or give the benefit of the doubt…then who’s fault is that?
By:
dustybin
When: 25 Jul 24 10:35
*man doesn’t
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 25 Jul 24 10:47
Who cares if the police went over the top a tad, which I'm sure they didn't.

They're there to keep the peace and stamp out bad behaviour.

Looks like a case of good policing to me.
By:
Jumper45
When: 25 Jul 24 10:48
Media quick to frame it as just police brutality with just a clip of a few seconds.

However, when we go beyond the headline, here's the BBC report which is front and foremost on their website this morning. It gives us some of the all important context.

In the build up to the incident shown in the clip, a police spokesman said that firearms officers had been punched to the ground after trying to make an arrest following a fight in the airport.

There was a "clear risk" their weapons could be taken from them, he said, adding all three had been taken to hospital, one with a broken nose.
Four men were arrested on suspicion of assault and affray.

No doubt the subsequent investigation will also provide detail of how all this started, which appears to have been a fight between individuals, and why that altercation developed.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 24 10:58
People making judgments without the full facts AGAIN


The only FACT we know is a Police Officer kicked a man who was tasered and on the floor with his arms by his side and not moving in thd head then stamped on his head.

As usual the Usual Suspects show their legal expertise

Beso Presi
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 25 Jul 24 11:00
I got banned on one occasion for suggesting the police used firearms against people who were smashing a police car.

So we have to careful on here when we support the police.
By:
dustybin
When: 25 Jul 24 11:00
While the usual lackie look for opportunities to bend over

Loads to say about a celebratory kiss…nothing about the widespread rape or honour killings.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 25 Jul 24 11:00
Thought it was a clip from the sweeney
By:
dustybin
When: 25 Jul 24 11:02
Affray is not inconsequential, it can result in a decade in prison.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 25 Jul 24 11:02
Context is important. If the guy on the ground broke the other copper's nose then I've no problem with her colleague making sure he's subdued and can well understand him going a bit over the top in retribution. Basing judgment on a minute long clip that misses the preamble will almost always lead to a wrong conclusion.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 25 Jul 24 11:03
How can the police be in the wrong for doing what they're paid to do?
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 24 11:03
Anthony…. Is he a follower of Mohammed?
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 24 11:05
You think retribution is allowed by law PP?

Did you go to the same Law School as dusty?
By:
dustybin
When: 25 Jul 24 11:06
WD living in his island in the sky again

What happens in an airport, when directed towards police…armed police is a totally different category
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 24 11:09
You are clueless

Again you don’t know what happened and you are shooting your mouth off like an ignorant fool. How about you wait and see.
By:
dustybin
When: 25 Jul 24 11:16
Haha
Says the guy who has just been asked what evidence he has to back up his conspiracy…who else believes this story time horse5hit and can’t acknowledge the fact casualty figures contain combatants

That’s how disingenuous you are WD
Before all the kiss ass bollox of why you vanish so quickly when asked about the terrible way women get treated in some quarters.

I clearly made out the facts, that a copper looks to have a broken nose and that it’s very unlikely the other copper did it.
One of the charges is allegedly affray, something very serious in a setting like an airport, especially if there’s substance to the claim armed coppers where knocked to the ground.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 24 11:28
You make a useless lawyer dusty

You let your prejudice take over from logic and your hatred betrays your lack of intelligence

Besi Presi x
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 25 Jul 24 11:30
We should not even be discussing the way the police acted here.

We need to return to the situation where the public respected the police and criminals feared them.

But leftie do-gooders have created the opposite. The public don’t respect the police, and criminals certainly don’t fear the law or the police.

If we want a decent police force, we need to replace all those currently running the police who are responsible for this attitude of softly softly, and return to kick ass policing by real police, not tick box types pretending to police.

Same with the NHS, water, trains, energy, everywhere you look, getting the job done does not take priority any more.

And it’s getting worse.
By:
irishone
When: 25 Jul 24 11:31
By:
dustybin
When: 25 Jul 24 11:32
Says the guy who relished the thought of Andrew Gale going to court absolutely beside yourself wernt you WD
Thinking it would all be further evidence against evil white men

Only for him and 15 others to win before day one of the proceedings

Err rum
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 25 Jul 24 11:46
You think retribution is allowed by law PP?




Of course not, but I fully understand someone going in a bit rough after just seeing their mate's face get smashed in. If that is what happened. We need to know a lot more before deciding on the rights and wrongs imo.
By:
irishone
When: 25 Jul 24 11:48
the voice of reason
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 25 Jul 24 11:54
We should not even be discussing the way the police acted here.

We need to return to the situation where the public respected the police and criminals feared them.




Policing is by consent. Once police get out of control
as is happening in Manchester with strip searches
of young kids as punishment, then they risk tipping
over to lose consent, and airport incident is
another step in wrong direction.

It won't be the brutal thug with the pepper spray, and guns,
who gets taken out by somebody seeking retribution
but as we saw up here with raoul moat it's the unarmed
bobby minding his work.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 25 Jul 24 12:01
You can’t scrutinise every action of the police and then expect them to be effective.

The police are more scared of possible action taken against them for the way they act, than the criminals are of getting caught and punished.

That is the situation do-gooders and progressives have created for us.

When policing was simple - it worked.
By:
irishone
When: 25 Jul 24 12:04
when was that Crippen ?

Hang them and Flog Them days...... OOOPPPPSSSS
By:
mad mad moon
When: 25 Jul 24 12:05
Andy Burnham on BBC Radio phone in.
Mr Burnham told BBC Radio Manchester the video was "very disturbing" and the suspension of an officer was the "right action" However, he said he had since seen "the full footage" that showed a "fast-moving and complicated situation in a challenging location – it’s not clear cut"

Interesting that the BBC and other media outlets have edited the clip to suit their obvious agenda.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 25 Jul 24 12:08
When policing was simple - it worked.


It didn't work...
By:
Foinavon
When: 25 Jul 24 12:12
We had heard previously that airport security staff had been attacked and a policewoman had sustained a broken nose. We just saw a clip from the aftermath when backup arrived.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 25 Jul 24 12:15
It didn't work...

It didn't work for who?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 25 Jul 24 12:15
You mean, it didn't work for the lawyers because there was far less crime.

Crime was contained, and the prisons weren't full.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 25 Jul 24 12:17
There's another clip of a guy getting pepper sprayed

Same group, before it kicks off again.


Police will have body cam, and doubtless spin their own side.

Thing is, a guy already restrained should not be kicked in head
as revenge by agent of the law, as this clearly
is against the law.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 24 12:17
Of course not, but I fully understand someone going in a bit rough after just seeing their mate's face get smashed in. If that is what happened. We need to know a lot more before deciding on the rights and wrongs imo.

I live near where the soldier got stabbed PP

We have plenty of fights. We got some really stupid people here but none of them would use that as an excuse if they got lifted. They would just accept they broke the law and got caught. They had it coming us not an excuse in Law
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 25 Jul 24 12:19
It didn't work....
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 25 Jul 24 12:20
Crime was contained,

No it wasnt
By:
mad mad moon
When: 25 Jul 24 12:22
It worked better than it does now, that is unquestionable.
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