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By:
irishone
When: 25 Jul 24 17:31
consensus is the way forward chaps
By:
flat16
When: 25 Jul 24 17:38
A parasitical ,scamming ,fraudulent liar of a white fella ,was left with a 200k legal bill after falsely claiming a tree branch went in his ear and gave him tinnitus.
Maybe if he had a different religion or race he would have picked up the pot and been "weighed in Wincanton".
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 25 Jul 24 17:47

Jul 25, 2024 -- 5:12PM, dustybin wrote:


Like I said earlierThe same argument was made about Israel not allowed to go after Hamas.


But you never made an argument for Israel descending to terrorism. Or policemen descending to thuggery. Or did you? Please repost.

By:
dustybin
When: 25 Jul 24 17:55
What?

The argument was made against those who have to deal with malevolent intent, in the face of those who don’t have to answer for how low they are prepared to go.
As though the IDF can’t go after Hamas because of the insidious way they embed themselves among civilians
Or the way potential terrorists don’t tend to advertise the fact they have bad intentions before they go killing.
By:
moisok
When: 25 Jul 24 18:22
or did the brawl on the plane simply spilt over the concourse.
so what has it got to do with Rochdale muslims?
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 25 Jul 24 18:22
As though the IDF can’t go after Hamas because of the insidious way they embed themselves among civilians

Yaddayadda. Then you were asked to apply that MO to NI and you shifted your ground and said it was totally different.

In fact it was totally the same - the IRA could not have operated without the tacit support of the Catholic community in NI and the govt in Dublin.

And the British acknowledged c 35 years ago that it could not defeat the IRA militarily. (well it could: but would have meant employing tactics Yisraeli pigs are now deploying).
By:
moisok
When: 25 Jul 24 18:33
THIS has nothing to do with hamas except that there are supporters mouthing off on here trying to avoid what has goes on in muslim parts of england and incidents involving muslims at an airport.
By:
dustybin
When: 25 Jul 24 18:34
You wanted to draw a parallel between two totally different ideological versions of terrorism and I simply wouldn’t allow the comparison on the basis the IRA never wanted the destruction of Great Britain.

As with numerous attempts by you and your subversive chums adamant on finding a way to conflate the Israel issue, you continue to ignore the intent of Hamas is the wilful destruction of not just civilians but also the state of Israel.
In addition you make out this limit in response from Israel to be judged by a moral code that doesn’t exist for terrorists.
So rightly having decided they can’t respond you should give an example of how they can, but you never did.

Just as the policeman has said he believed his gun was in danger of being taken, evidenced by footage apparently, that being subjective but a reasonable assumption.
Having not known whether it would, and it having been taken, the potential result could have been far more serious than somebody having been kicked in the head.
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 25 Jul 24 18:46

Jul 25, 2024 -- 6:34PM, dustybin wrote:


You wanted to draw a parallel between two totally different ideological versions of terrorism and I simply wouldn’t allow the comparison on the basis the IRA never wanted the destruction of Great Britain.As with numerous attempts by you and your subversive chums adamant on finding a way to conflate the Israel issue, you continue to ignore the intent of Hamas is the wilful destruction of not just civilians but also the state of Israel.In addition you make out this limit in response from Israel to be judged by a moral code that doesn’t exist for terrorists.So rightly having decided they can’t respond you should give an example of how they can, but you never did.Just as the policeman has said he believed his gun was in danger of being taken, evidenced by footage apparently, that being subjective but a reasonable assumption.Having not known whether it would, and it having been taken, the potential result could have been far more serious than somebody having been kicked in the head.


Israel to be judged by a moral code that doesn’t exist for terrorists.

Exactly.

That is what you cannot accept. Because you don't know right from wrong. You can show a dog a clock, but you can't make it tell the time.

By:
impossible123
When: 25 Jul 24 18:48
Pertinent questions to those in the know about the incident.

1) How did this incident come about, and why?
2) How and why did the police officers on the airport concourse get involved?
3) Were these police officers armed?
4) Why was the "victim" dealt with in that manner?
5) What part (if any) the Muslim "victim" play in the incident?

If I was one of the jurors I'd need answers to the above questions prior to my decision making.
By:
dustybin
When: 25 Jul 24 18:50
The point simplified is that you made the same comparison between the IDF being held to a higher standard, where Hamas set out with intent to kill civilians then embed within their own civilians, and because the IDF in pursuit of Hamas resulted in civilians dying you believed they shouldn’t be allowed.

Meaning the terrorists have carte blanche to control the narrative, Israel therefore unable to tackle the aggressor.

Just as you now say the police have to answer to a higher standard, when the policeman apparently believed there was a danger of losing the gun…having had 3 of his colleagues chinned and one nose broken.

Yet again, the ‘higher standard’ being the controlling factor when those with malicious intent do what they want.

Just as the IDF basically told the likes of you to go jump, as should those defending the right of the police to protect the public.
By:
dustybin
When: 25 Jul 24 19:00
The Hamas comparison is simply the basis of UB’s continuation of an argument that he keeps making that in that case Israel, and in this case the police in GB have to abide by standards those they have to tackle do not

Israel told them to go fk, just as we should
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 25 Jul 24 19:01
Even the Israelis accept they should be held to a higher standard than Hamas, as the UK Govt accepted it should be held to a higher standard than the IRA and the police accept they can't go round kicking people in the head when they are on the floor.

But dustybin doesn't.

Fortunately, dustybin is never going to have a position of authority. He is a keyboard warrior who obtains online gratification from incidents like those.
By:
dustybin
When: 25 Jul 24 19:06
Says a guy spitting feathers because the response is dished out and he can do nothing about it.

Israel defend their right to retaliation, and have told all to butt out as the continue on their mission.

Because after all, what else would they do, allow Hamas to tell Israel what the can and can’t do by using the international court that also tells them to abide by orders they themselves ignore?

Imagine a UBs world of kowtowing and apologising for everything, the West would already be long gone.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 24 19:09
Oh dear

The stamping copper then goes to the guy sitting in the bench with his hands behind his head. Kicks him for no reason then batters him around the head with a taser as he falls on the floor.

I think he has lost his firearms licence, probably his job and will possibly be charged with something.

Looks like the story will run and run. The back story is very important and new video footage will be reload well as CCTV.
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 25 Jul 24 19:14
It's not retaliation, dustybin, it's ethnic cleansing. It's punishing a defenceless population. You should be spitting feathers at the sight of it too, rather than shooting your bolt.

WD - We'll see, I go 1.01 a cover up and we never even learn the name of that police officer:- 24 months gardening leave, retired from front-line duty, police federation hero, full pension of course..
By:
dustybin
When: 25 Jul 24 19:18
It’s a preplanned and contrived act by terrorists, that were ordered to release the hostages immediately and unconditionally by the court….and they ignored it.

Israel are responding by killing the combatants but given the insidious nature of the Hamas plan includes civilians too.

That’s hamas’ making.
By:
rothko
When: 25 Jul 24 19:26
see one of the guys has a cyst on the brain - well done to the NHS for such a rapid diagnosis

my mate had to wait 4 weeks for an MRI scan

I trust Burnham who is an experienced and level headed politician who has seen ALL the footage who described it as a fast moving and complicated situation
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 25 Jul 24 19:34
Why can't we all see all the footage? Before it goes missing..
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 25 Jul 24 19:38

Jul 25, 2024 -- 7:18PM, dustybin wrote:


It’s a preplanned and contrived act by terrorists, that were ordered to release the hostages immediately and unconditionally by the court….and they ignored it.Israel are responding by killing the combatants but given the insidious nature of the Hamas plan includes civilians too.That’s hamas’ making.


No you are wrong there, dustybin.
Right at the start, Israel said it would prosecute its war in Gaza even if all the hostages were released. I could find the quote, from an Israeli spokesman on BBC, if you doubt it.

By:
saddo
When: 25 Jul 24 19:39
Is there a go fund me appeal for the suspended officer yet?
By:
dustybin
When: 25 Jul 24 19:42
I remember they said they would continue until Hamas were gone (which means dead or alive)

But that’s not the point
The point is Hamas were ordered by the court you want to run the rule over Israel, to release the hostages and they didn’t
There’s no refuting that fact

If Israel quite reasonably also want them to surrender that’s by the by, they will continue until they get that.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 24 19:43
Give your money to the thug saddo

Good man

Give some money to Reform while you are at it.
By:
saddo
When: 25 Jul 24 19:43
You'll see what the public really think, if there is one.
By:
rothko
When: 25 Jul 24 19:46
unitedbiscuits • July 25, 2024 7:34 PM BST
Why can't we all see all the footage? Before it goes missing..


Im no legal expert but I  assume as its police property and part of an ongoing investigation which may lead to a trial it cant be released

I understand your cynisism UB as all the footage from Tommy Robinson getting pepper sprayed whilst hand cuffed was lost by the Met or wiped over whiuch was exposed at his trial
By:
saddo
When: 25 Jul 24 19:48
PorcupineorPineapple 25 Jul 24 12:26 

Going back to my betting shop days (a while back admittedly), we had one customer who spat in a cashier's face where I was working. I went out and leathered him. Got hauled in front of the area manager but the result was a written warning which he said would never be acted upon, but he was forced to give me something and not just thanks for sticking up for my colleague.

................

Respect.
By:
Capt__F
When: 25 Jul 24 19:53
^agree
By:
impossible123
When: 25 Jul 24 19:53
I'd have done the same if in the same situation . Otherwise a repeat is a certainty from the scumbag.
By:
impossible123
When: 25 Jul 24 19:58
Why are we talking about Israel and Hamas? The latter is a terrorist organisation using human beings as shields. This si a fact.

I do not condone what Israel has done but that does not mean I support Israel. But, I wholeheartedly support the Gazans and totally appalled for the sufferings they have endured. However, I certainly do not support Hamas.

The above is for humankind not religion.
By:
dustybin
When: 25 Jul 24 20:01
Because UB continually makes the argument that there are those who must abide by rules and there are those that don’t

The example used was just that, an example.
By:
saddo
When: 25 Jul 24 20:05
Probably a different family but a video of a few big chaps kicking off there because the woman they were with refused to be searched, tasers drawn.
By:
impossible123
When: 25 Jul 24 20:06
'rothko', sorry about the wait for your friend.

A couple of months back I'd acute sensitivity to light (could not even open my eyes because of the light) and migraine (1st time ever). I was advised to dial 111; post this subsequent events were beyond my control eg paramedic and ambulance were called. On arrival at the hospital I was seen by 2 medics soon after arrival; CT scan was inconclusive. Hence MRI in the morning.

I think the above was possible because of my age (just pensionable) and severe migraine.
By:
dustybin
When: 25 Jul 24 20:14
I saw a clip a few weeks ago by some women holding some sit down protest for sumat or other

There was a Muslim (apparently) wowan in the middle and coppers were there to arrest her
And the women were screaming they must have a woman WPC arrest her and the PCs were fannying around
It was a pathetic sight it really was
They took her in the end with all women screeching

I have fk all idea whether or what the rules are, but I’m assuming the coppers do, and the fact they took her suggests they are well within their rights for a PC to arrest and handle a Muslim woman.
Why they were farting around so long when anyone else would have had their arms cuffed behind their back is indicative of the problem.
By:
impossible123
When: 25 Jul 24 20:21
If an arrest is necessary any copper will do regardless of sex of the perceived offender. Otherwise, refrain from offending.

If you cannot do the sentence, do not do the crime. A criminal has no say in who the arresting officer is. Tough! This is England not some overly corrupt and mainly illiterate populated country where Prime Ministers (present and former) are assassinated on a fairly regular basis.
By:
dustybin
When: 25 Jul 24 20:22
I’ve found it Laugh
.
https://youtu.be/o4HMRWl2qOU?si=2frDsaTcFvSlYKXC

3:00 in
Ffs
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 24 20:26
The crazies are out in force!

Is it only “ the Muslims “ who drive badly?
By:
saddo
When: 25 Jul 24 21:02
No, newly arrived Africans are very dangerous on the roads round here, and all Amazon drivers.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 24 22:08
I wonder if the cop will be charged with ABH. Pretty shocking violence from him.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 24 22:10
30p Lee is on it!

Maybe when he gets sacked the cop can protect Farage from flying milkshakes for a living.
By:
irishone
When: 26 Jul 24 07:04
Hated going to Rochdale
Subs doing warm ups had meat pies thrown at them
Kit came back with mince all over it
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