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irishone
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A crowd of people has protested outside a police station in Greater Manchester, amid anger over a policeman filmed kicking a man in the head at the city's airport.

Chanting "shame on you", the protesters in Rochdale accused the police of institutional racism, footage from the protest online appears to show.

Greater Manchester Police said it understood people's "immense feeling of concern" and respected the right to protest - and that the demonstration had finished "safely without incident".

The force has referred itself for investigation and removed one officer from operational duties following the kicking video.

The video, filmed at Manchester Airport on Tuesday evening, shows a male police officer holding a Taser over a man, who is lying face down on the floor.
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Report impossible123 July 28, 2024 7:54 PM BST
Not always though eg Iraq, where there had been atrocities committed post gunfight. And, it would not be the last either; emotions and conflict go hand-in-hand like fish-and-chips. It's far from ideal but that's what happens.
Report Charlie July 28, 2024 8:01 PM BST
If atrocities were committed in Iraq then they were, quite rightly, investigated.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 28, 2024 8:11 PM BST
We've all seen the extenuating circumstances too

And they are insufficient to justify kicking a restrained man in the head
and then stamping on his head.

He might have just got away with I thought he was getting up on the kick,
but that's rather gone for the stamp.

What about rest of group? Do they get a kick in head
and stamp too, or had the plod finally controlled himself.
Report saddo July 28, 2024 9:14 PM BST
Let us hope the vermin end up in jail. They are clearly very violent criminals, regardless of what happened afterwards.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 28, 2024 11:10 PM BST
Let's hope that the assault by police doesn't lead to guilty parties walking free.
Report Dotchinite July 28, 2024 11:15 PM BST
Why would it. It doesnt change what they have clearly done.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 28, 2024 11:23 PM BST
Because they'll need to put plod on the stand, if there's a trial.

And he may already be an ex cop.

Far more likely it all gets sorted, quietly, and
justice isn't done.
Report Dotchinite July 28, 2024 11:30 PM BST
Time will tell but the fact this has become such a big story makes me think thats unlikely especially since it would be the perfect result for the far right.
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 29, 2024 7:39 AM BST
cider still clung on to it!


good grief
Report SirNorbertClarke July 29, 2024 8:28 AM BST
And he may already be an ex cop

Highly unlikely unless someone starts a go fund me account for him and he becomes a millionaire.

This officer was in the middle of a vicious brawl. Multiple officers had been assaulted. All he needs to say is he didn't think the incident was over.

GMP officers are now declining to carry firearms. This only ends one way.
Report Whisperingdeath July 29, 2024 9:51 AM BST
You are deluded Nobby

So the two brother use the same excuse. We thought the armed police were going to kill us!

You are deluded!
Report SirNorbertClarke July 29, 2024 10:04 AM BST
Only problem with that is the thugs started beating the women police officers before any guns were drawn

0/10 must try harder
Report Whisperingdeath July 29, 2024 10:29 AM BST
Rubbish

You are deluded.

You are like the losers on Gammon Brexit News who are trying to make excuses for the thuggery and claim they are legal justification

Look at your posts Nobby. You sound like a deluded gammon. It is quite ironic
Report SirNorbertClarke July 29, 2024 10:31 AM BST
Listen to Vigilante Boy calling someone a Gammon LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Whisperingdeath July 29, 2024 10:34 AM BST
Maybe you should look at dusty’s expert legal analysis of Luis Rubiales position after kissing Jenni Hermoso

He didn’t have a clue on that either. He thought Rubiales did nothing wrong, would not lose his job and would not have to stand trial

Beso Presi
Report Whisperingdeath July 29, 2024 10:36 AM BST
You are very childish Nobby

Calling people names is not making an argument. Have you been taking lessons from Crippen? Careful you don’t get banned for racismWhoops
Report dambuster July 29, 2024 10:39 AM BST
WD Every time i look on the forum you are always disagreeing with the majority of people on here,
are you a professional annoyer by any chance.? Laugh
Report SirNorbertClarke July 29, 2024 10:40 AM BST
WD yesterday you were singing the praises of vigilantism, today you seem a little embarrassed.
Report dambuster July 29, 2024 10:41 AM BST
And most of the time you post consecutive posts before you've had a reply from anyone,LaughLaughLaugh.
I feel sorry for you, you must spend your whole life Seeeeeething at everyone who doesn't agree with you.
Report Whisperingdeath July 29, 2024 10:51 AM BST
Nobby

I only explaining different types of just. If someone dies or says something to your mother I believe you gave every right to seek justice. Then you may have to accept the consequences of the Law. They are two different things.

Most of you attempting to defend the thug cop seem to think retribution is allowed under law. It is not. You are making up excuses for a vicious thuggish assault and categorising them as a legal defence.

Let’s see what happens.

The thug cop imho will lose his firearms certificate because he was dangerously out of control, broke the law and put fellow officers at risk by his actions.

He may lose his job. He may not.

He may be prosecuted, he may not. If it went to trial it would only need a couple of Gammons to find him not guilty so I doubt he would be convicted. By the same token if the brothers go to court and plead not guilty and  use your “ legal defence “ they “ thought “ they were being assaulted they would only need a couple if sympathetic jurors to be found not guilty. Court may not provide justice fir any if the thugs involved.
Report casemoney July 29, 2024 10:53 AM BST
Laugh
Report Whisperingdeath July 29, 2024 10:53 AM BST
Dambuster if ever there was an angry man it is you

Prejudiced and bigoted over anything or anyone that may be foreign, black or Islamic

You are a vile creature who is just filled with hate.
Report Whisperingdeath July 29, 2024 10:54 AM BST
Morning case

Have you been in the Crippen retraining course?
Report casemoney July 29, 2024 10:54 AM BST
Pmsfl
Report Whisperingdeath July 29, 2024 10:56 AM BST
I wound imagine you do

Gawn say something
Report Whisperingdeath July 29, 2024 10:58 AM BST
Don’t tell me

Charlie made you do it!
Report casemoney July 29, 2024 11:00 AM BST
No , Something was Wrong with Account , there is no email address on it and I cant add one for some reason ,So not sure what was  going on
Report Whisperingdeath July 29, 2024 11:02 AM BST
Yeah

Did Crippen tell you to say thatWink
Report Whisperingdeath July 29, 2024 11:03 AM BST
Quite a few people said nice things about you in your absence
Report casemoney July 29, 2024 11:03 AM BST
There was an Email address but it Disappeared ,perhaps they have been trying to Contact me and couldn't , was think affordability check or something
Report Whisperingdeath July 29, 2024 11:05 AM BST
Hopefully you are nice, refreshed and have good things to say unlike these prejudiced haters of life.
Report saddo July 29, 2024 12:44 PM BST
dambuster 29 Jul 24 10:39 
WD Every time i look on the forum you are always disagreeing with the majority of people on here,
are you a professional annoyer by any chance.?


dambuster 29 Jul 24 10:41 
And most of the time you post consecutive posts before you've had a reply from anyone,LaughLaughLaugh.
I feel sorry for you, you must spend your whole life Seeeeeething at everyone who doesn't agree with you.
.....................

Laugh Professional arse. What a way to waste a life, day in, day out.
Report saddo July 29, 2024 12:44 PM BST
dambuster 29 Jul 24 10:39 
WD Every time i look on the forum you are always disagreeing with the majority of people on here,
are you a professional annoyer by any chance.?


dambuster 29 Jul 24 10:41 
And most of the time you post consecutive posts before you've had a reply from anyone,LaughLaughLaugh.
I feel sorry for you, you must spend your whole life Seeeeeething at everyone who doesn't agree with you.
.....................

Laugh Professional arse. What a way to waste a life, day in, day out.
Report Whisperingdeath July 29, 2024 12:57 PM BST
As opposed to an unprofessional rocket scientist like you saddo?
Report dambuster July 29, 2024 2:37 PM BST

Jul 29, 2024 -- 4:53AM, Whisperingdeath wrote:


Dambuster if ever there was an angry man it is youPrejudiced and bigoted over anything or anyone that may be foreign, black or Islamic You are a vile creature who is just filled with hate.


LaughLaughLaughLaughMy sister-in-law is Black, i love her to bits, you just continue to score own goals WD.
The day in the life of a sad man.
Starring WD.LaughLaughLaugh

Report Whisperingdeath July 29, 2024 2:44 PM BST
Yeah course

Don’t tell me your best mate at school was black too like moisok’s dog

Keep laughing today of all days
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 29, 2024 2:49 PM BST
See the lawyers ditched the 2 knobheads after seeing the fuller video. Must be hopeless if that grifter doesn't want to be associated with them.
Report SirNorbertClarke July 29, 2024 2:52 PM BST
We could do with seeing the bodycam footage
Report Whisperingdeath July 29, 2024 2:57 PM BST
PP

Nobody is talking much about the events that lead to the boot.

There was an altercation on the plane from Pakistan. Who has an altercation on a plane in the first place and secondly with their mum.

The row continued at the airport, possible in baggage and then maybe at Starbucks.

The group were identified in the car park and that’s where it kicked off.

Plenty of people on that flight and many others must have seen the two or three altercations before the punch up.

Some witnesses also got peppered and assaulted by the thug cop.

It will all come out in the wash hopefully and the guilty will be dealt with
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 29, 2024 3:02 PM BST
I think whatever happened on the plane is pretty immaterial. The police went in to cuff that lad and they both kicked off bigly. Not sure what you expect to find that will justify them doing that.
Report SirNorbertClarke July 29, 2024 3:10 PM BST
If the two kids had a case the shyster lawyer wouldn't have done a bunk.
Report moisok July 29, 2024 3:12 PM BST
and, of course, their book allows them to tell a pack of lies to the non-converted
Report impossible123 July 29, 2024 3:50 PM BST
Votes! Votes! Votes!
This is what any politician wants esp the Labour Party. I'd like to see any British political party prohibiting an ethnic group flooding/populating any town with their own people to secure political leverage/power/wealth eg (25-60)% as is fairly common in some towns up North like those where the abuses of vulnerable young white (only white) females took place.

The former/original lawyer of the family Mr Yakoob was a prospective Labour (I presume) candidate for a constituency in Birmingham. But, he was outed for making misogynistic and disturbing views. And, here he's been sacked as the thug/scum family's lawyer for lacking professional acumen and self-promotion concerning the incident at Manchester Airport.
Report SirNorbertClarke July 29, 2024 4:38 PM BST
Many areas with high Muslim populations are as good as ghettos where few non-Muslims would buy a house.
Report Whisperingdeath July 29, 2024 5:17 PM BST
Would you say many areas with high black populations are the same Nobby?
Report SirNorbertClarke July 29, 2024 6:08 PM BST
Not really. Half the apartment block I live in is black. We all get along well enough.
Report dambuster July 29, 2024 6:25 PM BST
Blacks and whites mix well i the norm imo, black crime is more drug related and black on black.
As much as the politicians try to segregate us.
Report casemoney July 29, 2024 11:26 PM BST
Nob hit the Nail on the Head , Lawyer Grifter has gone
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 31, 2024 7:19 PM BST
51 police injured in Southport...
Report alfee August 6, 2024 12:34 PM BST
Woz it the First Day of the Trail today ?,........How's the Lad with the Prooven Cyst on the BRAIN Going On ?
Report flat16 August 6, 2024 1:10 PM BST
The priceless "cyst on the brain" self certification ,eagerly sucked up by the UK media ,will surely result in benefits ,compo ,maybe a knighthood.
Expect a similar claim for the bruised knuckles ,used for the breaking of the WPCs nose.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 6, 2024 1:21 PM BST
He should be done for any assault he may have carried out.

But, once incapacitated by force, the kick to head is
illegal, and later stamping even more so.

Noticeable in the dozens of racist scum arrests I've seen
there doesn't appear to have been any unreasonable
force used once racists were subdued and cuffed.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 6, 2024 1:24 PM BST
Of course racist scum would be saying, hey I've assaulted a
police officer so once you get me down on ground
you can kick me in head and stamp on me as I feel
I've got it coming to me.
Report saddo August 6, 2024 1:31 PM BST
So angry, watch your blood pressure imo, especially if it's warm.
Report flat16 August 6, 2024 1:45 PM BST
No worries with two tier justice ,they were speedily back on the streets ,even with a "cyst on the brain" truly remarkable.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 6, 2024 2:09 PM BST
Had blood pressure check and mot this morning saddo.

You'll be pleased to learn it's slightly lower
than ideal but no cause for concern.

Of course you were simply projecting your own rage, silly me.
Report saddo August 6, 2024 2:16 PM BST
Had mine checked a week ago, perfect thanks. No rage here I'm afraid, resigned acceptance of trouble took over years ago. I've bigger stuff going on but blood pressure is very good.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 6, 2024 2:18 PM BST
Pre riot check, brilliant... Fit to go.
Report Cider August 6, 2024 2:21 PM BST
He should be done for any assault he may have carried out.


No 'may' about it. If he had complied instead of repeatedly battering armed female police officers, he wouldn't have needed subduing, would he?

If there is any doubt it's whether the tactics by the cop were reasonable or not. None of us know what the exact rules and training are for armed police under attack, however if you are in a hostile crowd who have already tried to get hold of your gun, that have already demonstrated they have zero respect for the law, or any conscience, and the mob have only a few seconds earlier gained the upper hand, I doubt if the rules are asking them to come nicely. It would be more along the lines of neutralising the threat to ensure the safety of everyone.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 6, 2024 2:23 PM BST
Lol, you don't know so blow out some smoke and look stupid, again.

Typical cider.
Report saddo August 6, 2024 2:27 PM BST
----you-have-to-laugh--- 06 Aug 24 14:18 
Pre riot check, brilliant... Fit to go.

.................

Laugh If Dewsbury kicks off I may have to defend from raiding parties, no shlt.
I haven't had contents insurance for 30 years but |I'm getting some, and parking on the drive as per insurance.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 6, 2024 2:29 PM BST
Happy
Report saddo August 6, 2024 2:31 PM BST
My infant Granddaughter was ambulanced away having a seizure on Friday, this is nowt really.
She's good now.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 6, 2024 2:35 PM BST
Best wishes to her saddo.
Report saddo August 6, 2024 2:43 PM BST
She was on top form by Sunday ta, they can only offer hope that it's a one off. Her mum has had a bad cold, and they found the baby tonsillitis at the hospital, and it was a hot day. They reckon a combination of those was enough.
Report lux August 6, 2024 2:58 PM BST
Breakdown of the video shows the assailants hand moving down the coppers side, close to his sidearm, as they as they fell to the ground, quite reasonable therefore for the copper to think it might have been taken hence his reaction ...

https://youtu.be/jw6cR53f2ag?si=9MMs11OYbCF11Vsm&t=457  (from 7.37 but worth watching in its entirety)
Report Whisperingdeath August 6, 2024 3:35 PM BST
Walofs

Maybe he also kicked himself in the head?
Report lux August 6, 2024 3:50 PM BST
yes perhaps, great analysis.
Report Whisperingdeath August 6, 2024 4:55 PM BST
Lee have the best Police Force in the World!
Report SirNorbertClarke August 6, 2024 5:55 PM BST
yhtl have you ever been involved is a mass brawl?

When a number of people are trying to cave your face in it's pretty normal to want to smash their heads in.

It makes no difference what colour people happen to be, it's self preservation.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 6, 2024 6:00 PM BST
He's a policeman who is trained to subdue and detain.

He should control himself once that is achieved.

He's not there to dish out punishment.
Report SirNorbertClarke August 6, 2024 6:32 PM BST
He's not dishing out punishment.

The policeman will not know how his mates are doing and will want the guy he is dealing with completely immobilized as fast as possible.

Until you have been in a mass brawl you can't know the fear and instinct that takes over.
Report Cider August 6, 2024 6:36 PM BST
laugh has absolutely no idea how armed police are trained in England to deal with a lethal threat when outnumbered. in multiple other countries, the thugs battering female cops would have been permanently neutralised.

the story was quickly dropped from the legacy media once the footage was finally released, wonder why that was.
Report Whisperingdeath August 6, 2024 6:52 PM BST
Go on then Sherlock

Yoh explain what they should do
Report Cider August 6, 2024 6:56 PM BST
I don't know. Nobody on here does. So I can't tell you whether it was within the guidance in such extreme circumstances. I can guess that most options are on the table to avoid using the gun on perps. We do know however that battering police officers is extreme criminality, much easier to pass a confident judgement on.
Report impossible123 August 6, 2024 6:58 PM BST
I can understand why the police officer lost his professional etiquette but it was wrong, and no excuse. Nevertheless, I'd have done the same given what the scumbag did to his female colleague; if you cannot take the punishment (rightly or wrongly) do not commit the crime.

If the scumbags had only listened and obeyed the police officer there would have been no incident at the airport concourse, correct? I think these two scumbags got off lightly. Any other country eg Pakistan, China, Singapore, India, Thailand, Hong Kong or Taiwan these two scumbags will probably have received more than a couple of kicks to head eg hit with a rattan, truncheon, sticks or metal rods to the head and body into submission or until unconscious.

I think this Pakistani family should shoulder more responsibility eg instill an upbringing to respect officers of the law and behave in public. What that scumbag did to the female officer is a reflection of the lack of respect this community has to women in general.
Report Whisperingdeath August 6, 2024 7:00 PM BST
Thank heavens neither of you are lawyers as you are both clueless
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 6, 2024 7:05 PM BST
I know how police are trained.

That's why he is under suspension

D'oh
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 6, 2024 7:07 PM BST
I get your point nobby, but I disagree.

I've said before he might just have got away with kick to head

But the stamp afterwards is simple brutality.
Report SirNorbertClarke August 6, 2024 7:20 PM BST
We'll see what the CPS, the courts & the police complaints commission say.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 6, 2024 7:24 PM BST
Of course, and again I think they go knock for knock
and reduce the tariffs for all.
Report impossible123 August 6, 2024 7:25 PM BST
My nephew had his left foot run over by a bus when trying to board as the bus was departing. My nephew was drunk at the time.

His family accepted had he not been drunk the accident would not have happened. There was no pursuance of compensation; there was embarrassment on the part of his family. It could have been much worse eg his head run over.
Report impossible123 August 6, 2024 7:26 PM BST
CPS? Consult Sir Starmer. He'd be useful for once.
Report Cider August 6, 2024 7:38 PM BST
No way in the world will the cop be exonerated, he will be sacrificed.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 6, 2024 7:40 PM BST
There would be an element of contributory negligence
to consider when being run over by a bus when drunk.

He'd also likely make a poor witness if not remembering much.

Buses shouldn't run over drunks all the same.

Much would depend upon what stage of closure the door was
at, and the drivers actions in pulling away if the
door was still open.

All of this would be recorded on CCTV.
Report alfee August 6, 2024 7:40 PM BST
The Family had a look of...WE BEEN TO HELL AND BACK, PLEASE FEEL SORRY FOR US....WE CANNOT GET OR CHINS OFF THE FLOOR ..WE'VE DONE NOWT WRONG.....ITS NOT FAIR !!!!CrazyLaugh
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 6, 2024 7:47 PM BST
The family didn't say that of course.

They held a press conference which is freely available.

You just made it up to highlite your stupidity.
Report alfee August 6, 2024 7:51 PM BST
I LAUGHFD THOUGH Laugh
Report alfee August 6, 2024 7:54 PM BST
And i just back another Winner......LIKE ME Grin
Report PorcupineorPineapple August 6, 2024 8:59 PM BST
Copper is on film kicking someone who was incapacitated on the ground and then following that up with stamping on his head.



There's no way the higher ups at GMP can allow him to go back on the beat. It'd be the kind of decision that would cost the jobs of those in the hot seats. Copper might be the best, the fairest and the nicest of them all but you can't put the uniform on and then be caught doing that. Very unfortunate that it may have just been a moment of madness and he was understandbly pissed off after seeing himself and three colleagues battered so badly (could have been a lot worse if one of the perps decided to take the gun) but you can't stamp on a suspect on the ground and get away with it. Only question is how the price hepays will be.
Report SirNorbertClarke August 6, 2024 9:08 PM BST
If you've never been in a mass brawl you can have no concept of the fear ad primeval self preservation instincts that kick in.

The policeman will still be a policeman when all this is over.

Anything less than 4 years for the yobs who started it will be a disgrace.
Report irishone August 6, 2024 9:29 PM BST
What Mass Brawl were you involved in please Nobby ?
Report irishone August 6, 2024 9:30 PM BST
Anything less than 4 years for the yobs who started it will be a disgrace.

Hopefully the YOB who started it will get LIFE (doubt it though)
Report impossible123 August 6, 2024 9:45 PM BST
The yobs who started this will never get life because they are from the ethnic minority group that the Labour Party gets their votes from. But, this ethnic group bleats every time whenever there's a perceived police transgression into their behaviour or way of life.
Report PorcupineorPineapple August 6, 2024 10:00 PM BST
They won't get life because no-one would ever get life for just hitting a copper.



Jesus, no wonder it's so easy for idiots to be wound up into a race war. ffs.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 6, 2024 10:18 PM BST
If the police intervened in a mass brawl then they should have spoken to
Nobby first, he would have told them how dangerous
it could be.

Doubtless their brief will be running defence of having
been in mass brawl if charged for assaulting plods.
Report SirNorbertClarke August 6, 2024 10:42 PM BST
Physical violence is the very last thing a copper wants to get involved with.
Report Whisperingdeath August 7, 2024 1:25 AM BST
Really?

Do you reserve Miners strike?
Report irishone August 7, 2024 7:14 AM BST
SirNorbertClarke06 Aug 24 17:55Joined: 11 Aug 21 | Topic/replies: 10,143 | Blogger: SirNorbertClarke's blog
yhtl have you ever been involved is a mass brawl?

HAVE YOU NOBBY ....?

SirNorbertClarke06 Aug 24 22:42Joined: 11 Aug 21 | Topic/replies: 10,143 | Blogger: SirNorbertClarke's blog
Physical violence is the very last thing a copper wants to get involved with.

HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT NOBBY ?
Report dustybin August 7, 2024 7:31 AM BST
I never bothered watching the latest press conference (under new management one)

There was something I watched that referred to is where the new lawyer was asked 2 questions.

Is it correct that when asked how the brain cyst is he replied something on the lines of they were still looking for it?
And apparently some contrition was shown by those who assaulted coppers and the press asked what were they apologising for and he wouldn’t answer?
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