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By:
lfc1971
When: 04 Apr 24 09:38
The scummy IRA had to surrender - because they were riddled with - grasses
By:
rothko
When: 04 Apr 24 09:59
the  only thing she is sorry about is that she couldnt bury the scandal by bullying the postmasters with legal threats
She should be charged with perverting the course of justice as she let prosecutions proceed when she knew that the evidence was flawed. She has now been caught lying to Parliament with the release of the evidence from the recordings

Why do people say that the sub postmasters will receive justice - its compensation thats being offered which isnt justice
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 04 Apr 24 14:07
It is a shame none of the victims can take out a private prosecution for loss against these vile creatures.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 04 Apr 24 16:11
FUJITSU rec'd  instructions directly from Post Office Helpdesk to covertly alter SubPostmasters Cash Accounts  -  POL 'we need this fixed, can you work your magic'  FUJ 'It will be done in the overnight run tonight to change the balances'



Wowsers, if confirmed true.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 04 Apr 24 17:37
I just cannot understand how a perverting the course of justice charge has not been made. Plod just too thick of is it their job to protect the guilty?
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 05 Apr 24 00:20
Surely just a matter of time now before plod start charging imo.
Squeaky bum time for a good few.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 05 Apr 24 08:40
how could they sleep at night knowing innocent people losing everything lives /homes /trust etc,  ...........wont be sleeping so comfortably now !
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 05 Apr 24 14:19
People need to go to jail and they should pay too. I hope the action group can find a class action against Vennels and go after her financially
By:
irishone
When: 05 Apr 24 18:42
lfc197104 Apr 24 09:38Joined: 06 Nov 11 | Topic/replies: 76,829 | Blogger: lfc1971's blog
The scummy IRA had to surrender - because they were riddled with - grasses

Absolute Bull

Army concedes for first time it did not win the battle against the IRA
An internal British army document examining 37 years of deployment in Northern Ireland contains the claim by one expert that it failed to defeat the IRA.
The admission is contained in a discussion document released by the Ministry of Defence after a request under the Freedom of Information Act.

The 100 page document analyses in detail the army's role over 37 years.

It focuses on specific operations and gives an overview of its performance.
The six-month study, covering the period 1968-2005, was prepared under the direction of the then chief of general staff, General Sir Mike Jackson.

The document, obtained by the Pat Finucane Centre, points to a number of mistakes, including internment and highlights what lessons have been learnt.

It describes the IRA as "a professional, dedicated, highly skilled and resilient force", .......while loyalist paramilitaries and other republican groups are described as "little more than a collection of gangsters".
By:
lfc1971
When: 05 Apr 24 22:28
Devious little GRASS
By:
irishone
When: 06 Apr 24 06:51
Haha

What because once again i prove you talk absolute bolleaux
By:
lfc1971
When: 06 Apr 24 07:27
qed ,  devious - and a tout
By:
irishone
When: 06 Apr 24 07:44
Ni proof ?

Evidence ?

More silly assertions and opinions
By:
lfc1971
When: 06 Apr 24 08:09
Got to keep the loonies off the grass
By:
irishone
When: 06 Apr 24 08:12
More self realisation from enoch
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 25 Apr 24 13:16
Guilty as HELL
Grin
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 25 Apr 24 13:28
Angela van den Bogerd is a poor witness, lol

understatement.
By:
lfc1971
When: 25 Apr 24 13:37
Ms Van den Bogerd apologises
And says she ‘ never knowingly did anything wrong ‘ .. I believe her
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 25 Apr 24 13:42
LaughLaughLaugh
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 25 Apr 24 13:45
Before the break, Jason Beer KC showed a brief for van den Bogerd to prepare for "hard hitting" questions to be aired in a 2015 BBC Panorama episode titled 'Trouble at the Post Office'.

The episode was meant to be about an alleged miscarriage of justice within the Post Office.

Beer read out the key messages that van den Bogerd was meant to convey:

This is about missing money, which the Post Office has a duty to protect

The Post Office does not control the legal process, and does not prosecute without evidence

There's nothing wrong with the computer system

Beer asked van den Bogerd if she thought the mediation scheme and Second Sight investigation revealed that the majority of losses were down to human error and dishonesty, and not due to Horizon.

"Our investigations didn't find there was there was any evidence of losses caused by Horizon's system and that's what Second Sight concluded as well," she said.

Was the Post Office trying to avoid answering any questions about whether remote access was possible? Beer probed.

"I don't believe so," replied van den Bogerd.
By:
lfc1971
When: 25 Apr 24 13:49
She’s an honest witness to the confusion and lack of clear
understanding or clear thinking that went on imo
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 25 Apr 24 14:18
I don't think she can remember that she deliberately
lied under oath in court.

Either that or she's lying now.
By:
lfc1971
When: 25 Apr 24 14:25
She didn’t lie in court ,, there may have been emails that suggested remote access was
possible .. it doesn’t mean remote access was considered to be part of the failings and indeed it wasn’t
Quite easily possible that it wasn’t part of the thinking at those times and ignored and forgotten
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 25 Apr 24 14:40
Yeah forgotten that she was told about it in 2010.

Staggering how often she forgot about it at selected times
since then and was involved in email exchanges and pre trial
briefings where she was taught how to selectively forget
it on demand.
By:
lfc1971
When: 25 Apr 24 14:50
She’s not selectively dis remembering on demand
She doesn’t remember , that’s if she even saw them - one or two ?
amongst thousands
By:
saddo
When: 25 Apr 24 14:53
Or she's just an absolute vole
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 25 Apr 24 15:05
It's odd that her memory is so good she can actually
remember which documents she forgot on each occasion.
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 25 Apr 24 16:31
VDB is a complete t o s s e r
Incompetent or purely criminal?
Shocked
By:
lfc1971
When: 25 Apr 24 16:35
These were new computer systems …

Is it possible those using the new computer systems were incompetent ?
By:
lfc1971
When: 25 Apr 24 16:39
Out of thousands , some might be …possible  ?
By:
lfc1971
When: 25 Apr 24 16:40
Likely ?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 25 Apr 24 16:41
They were, and she lied about it to gain convictions.

She should go down for a long long time.
By:
lfc1971
When: 25 Apr 24 16:44
Nope , I don’t believe that
By:
irishone
When: 25 Apr 24 17:01
now you know how we feel about your lies
By:
lfc1971
When: 25 Apr 24 17:08
I believe Ms Van den Bogerd

I wouldn’t believe a word Irish boy says on any subject eg

Because he has shown himself to be a devious liar
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Apr 24 17:28
10 Police investigating a ginger who may or may not owe £1,500 CGT from 10 years ago.

Is anyone investigating this criminal conspiracy?

Maybe Iris is right, what is happening to us?

Nothing! Same as it ever was!

Michelle Mone and Doug trooser £58 million

The rich and privileged have always got away with it

and we have two adulterers as King and Queen
By:
lfc1971
When: 25 Apr 24 17:34
There is no evidence that she is guilty of anything
except perhaps incompetence and being unfit for the role she was given
By:
lfc1971
When: 25 Apr 24 17:37
It’s not uncommon in the workplace And she may not be guilty even of that
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Apr 24 18:06
Or maybe she put people through hell by deliberately hiding the truth and deserves to go to Jail
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Apr 24 18:08
In fact she may have perjured herself in Court!
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