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By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 18:20
Why was it the same until a decade or so before ?
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 18:20
Oh , and hasn’t changed in the city of London eg even today , why ?
By:
lapsy pa
When: 23 May 23 18:23
No,it wasn't a decade,it was at least a couple of them as you well know, do you want to correct that?
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 18:27
By 1961 the expenditure on education in N Ireland
was almost four times that spent south of the border
This was particularly true for Ulster’s Catholics . They had
benefitted from the reforms and investment in education …
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 18:28
Why did the rest of the U.K. including England ( even in London today )
have the same system for council elections ..
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 18:30
And why are you not demonstrating against such arrangements
in south Ireland lapsy .. if you believe it’s wrong for a business or university
By:
lapsy pa
When: 23 May 23 18:34
The ratepayers franchise system was abolished in Britain shortly after WW2 but kept on NI,civil right marches took place to get one man one vote,this was opposed by unionists, why?
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 18:39
Why was it abolished in council elections after WW2 in England ? thought it was sometime in the 1950s )
By:
peckerdunne
When: 23 May 23 18:40
Lfc, to back to the programme and correct everything you have said.

The man said a homeowner or a business and that only the homeowners could vote not the other adults.

He did not say ONLY be said either OF

Classic Lfc cherry picking.
By:
lapsy pa
When: 23 May 23 18:41
1950-1970=2 decades,why wasn't it also abolished in NI?
By:
peckerdunne
When: 23 May 23 18:43
And in the South in the 60s we were still trying to build a state free from the Empire, so free college education for all was not possible as we were still searching for a load of bread in the tenement rat invested streets.
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 18:43
The rioter / Ira / Republican said that only home owners could vote
( oh and a business in council elections )
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 18:45
Not true .. the majority of working class Protestants and Catholics didn’t own their homes
Although that was changing like everywhere else in Britain
By:
peckerdunne
When: 23 May 23 18:46
Anyway the union is dead, the Ulster Unionist is history, it's over for them, we are moving on.

Sands Excitedof power shifted forever.
By:
peckerdunne
When: 23 May 23 18:47
The protestant rioter you mean.
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 18:47
I thought it might have changed in England in the late 50s early sixties lapsy
Probably it was a labour government who took away the business vote
By:
peckerdunne
When: 23 May 23 18:50
Oh no, he wasn't a filter he was a protestant gunman and republican.
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 18:52
The point about the business vote is it’s a marginal and even today
could be seen to have merit for council elections .  They do pay two sets of council tax
after all - wouldn’t worry unduly if it was still in place
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 18:53
What are you on about pecker …
By:
lapsy pa
When: 23 May 23 18:54
Still kept on in NI to suit the unionist statelet, it was rotten to the core, christains,nah.

PD is correct,a new dawn, Sinn Fein will show a lot more 'fairness'
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 18:58
It was a business friendly system .. and both Protestant and Catholic ( or other )
business owners would qualify . N Ireland are very much orientated to encouraging and helping industry and commerce
That’s why it was also valued in the rest of the U.K. .. until the commies took over
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 19:01
To say it’s going to have a big influence on elections just isn’t credible
The business person got a vote for his business address and home address .. big deal
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 19:03
That was for council elections only
General Elections no extra business vote
By:
lapsy pa
When: 23 May 23 19:03
No^ Nationalist majority in Derry of 5000, 8 council seats against 12 unionist seats, the system was only favouring one side.
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 19:09
We can go back into that another time , tea time
Let’s just say that of course it goes back to the 1920s  and the council were threatening ( can’t recall the full details )
not to recognise the Stormont parliament or collect taxes etc and declaring allegiance to a foreign country ( the south )
Under such circumstances they shouldn’t be allowed to vote but should be in prison for treason
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 20:17
Also if you think of it , just how ludicrous
it is - for another reason to claim that you couldn’t vote if you didn’t own a house is …
Catholics made up about 1/3 of the population … that meant that there were many more
working class Protestants than catholics who would have been denied the vote simply
by virtue of being more of them … seems a bit silly to deny more unionists than catholics the vote
Doesn’t it !?
They’re not thinkers these people who believe the Ira propaganda
By:
peckerdunne
When: 23 May 23 21:08
Catholics were 8 to a bedroom, they didn't get housing lie the other lot.

You really are blinkered to the actual facts.
By:
peckerdunne
When: 23 May 23 21:10
Tourism Ireland is a United Ireland, don't forget that either, stick your ETA up your hoose.
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 21:24
Don’t talk nonsense - what was the voting age in the 60s ? …21

Catholics like Protestants we’re getting going into uni or work or getting married
at that age and setting up their own home - generally before or at that age or a little older
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 21:26
And don’t talk any nonsense about grandparents
Protestant working class homes often looked after their parents in the same home
Stop whining
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 21:31
Young Protestants and catholics were out of the home often  by 18 nevermind 21
University , work ,  England , married …Get real that’s more true back then than ever
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 23:58
DUP leader Jeffrey Donaldson confirms that
more financial support for Northern Ireland
is part of discussions with the Government …

Well done Mr Donaldson , very wise
By:
peckerdunne
When: 24 May 23 12:17
Very wise is it, what are you on about.

It's down because they won't go back to work, it's punishment from Westminster for opposing the framework.

Down from the need of 124 per person to 121 per person, which will result in very large services cut back, in nursing staff and police amongst others.

They are a disgrace.

Don't post back with sh1tt until you've heard Lord Dodd and you understand the Barnett squeeze.
By:
peckerdunne
When: 24 May 23 12:18
Dodds*
By:
lapsy pa
When: 24 May 23 14:47
Back to the hand out! Scummmyism at its finest,take it out of someone elses pocket for us!

So the 7 pillars to be ratified by the golden circles of 8 in regards the protocol was a crock o sh yte, Not about that at all,plan 2 Theresa May 2, oh the shame.
By:
lfc1971
When: 25 May 23 12:59
Tut , tut , nationalists getting into a tizzy again
And not thankful for the improvements already achieved re the sea border costs
Dreadful when parties do nothing and indeed undermine such necessary change
Good work DUP .. increased offer of financial support is now necessary - considering
the disruption to trade and business caused by the protocol

Don’t even consider returning to Stormont before that is on the table - oh and in the bank
By:
peckerdunne
When: 25 May 23 13:34
It's a shame you have no knowledge on the subject.

Wales is getting it's fair share, and me thinking it was a union, fair and equitable it aint.
By:
lfc1971
When: 25 May 23 14:02
Pd it’s polite to say thankyou when someone improves
terms and conditions for business in NI ..  oh and if a billion or more
is transferred into NIs bank account ..Say Thankyou !
By:
peckerdunne
When: 25 May 23 14:07
If it's a union why is NI getting less per year than Wales, tia.
By:
lfc1971
When: 25 May 23 14:09
I’m not interested in Wales ..
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