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By:
irishone
When: 21 May 23 07:28
By:
lfc1971
When: 21 May 23 08:16
Warrington bombings were two separate bomb attacks in England 1993
26 February a bomb exploded at a gas storage facility . Whilst fleeing
the bombers shot and injured a police officer.
20th March two bombs exploded on Bridge St . The area was crowded with shoppers
Shoppers fled from the first explosion into the path of the second. Three year old
Johnathon Ball died at the scene . He had been in town with his baby sitter shopping
for a Mother’s Day card . Twelve year old Tim Parry was gravely wounded. He died on
25 March 1993 when his life support machine was switched off after tests had shown
only minimal brain activity. Another 54 people were injured, 4 of them seriously .
One of the survivors, 32 year old Bronwen Vickers the mother of two young daughters
had to have a leg amputated and died just over a year later with cancer

‘ with love and peace in our hearts ‘ you’re off your rocker Iris
Be very thankful the British people are so forgiving and stoic
and that you were even able to set foot in this country never mind live and work here
By:
irishone
When: 21 May 23 08:27
heed boy heed rover .....
By:
lfc1971
When: 21 May 23 09:47
The turnout for the council election was 54%
The DUP has reinforced its position as the dominant
force in unionism winning 122 seats the same number as 2019

Jeffrey Donaldson says he is confident of securing ‘ further progress’
on the NI protocol ..
By:
peckerdunne
When: 21 May 23 14:08
It's a smaller pie and will diminish further because they don't have love and peace at heart.
By:
lfc1971
When: 21 May 23 15:14
Fine words , but i learnt the truth about that
If you have any dealings or discussions with Irish republicans
you have to place a gun on the table - to protect yourself
By:
lfc1971
When: 21 May 23 16:56
I learnt the truth at seventeen
That love was meant for beauty queens … Plain
By:
irishone
When: 22 May 23 09:53
The d u p falling apart but invited back into the fold by sinn fein .....?????
By:
lapsy pa
When: 22 May 23 17:09
A supposed acclaimed documentary tonight BBC2 @ 9.00pm,'Once upon a time in Northern Ireland' relating to the troubles.
By:
peckerdunne
When: 22 May 23 18:27
Thanks Pa, will watch.

Now if the DUP want to continue their war with Westminster that's fine, just don't expect to continue to hold Irish people and all remainers to ransom without further political consequence.

They can try unite as one paramilitary unionist party if they want, but that will drive other cohorts towards power with Sinn Fein(the people's party) LaughLaugh
By:
lapsy pa
When: 22 May 23 19:20
I haven't a clue what it is like but it seems decent PD.

Me buddy Sheamus who works in the corpo said people only voted for the dup because they want a United Ireland!
By:
lapsy pa
When: 22 May 23 21:55
Early days in a 5 part series but i think it is quite good, basically looking at catholics,protestants and soldiers, it should never have happened.
By:
peckerdunne
When: 22 May 23 22:21
Got to follow this, was very real.
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 09:23
Only about 5 min in and we get the first lie
the rioter/ Ira / Republican claiming you had to own a house to vote - you didn’t
They don’t seem to know their own history . If these important misrepresentations are
allowed to be stated - and of course deliberately unquestioned by the BBC then nothing
within this documentary can be trusted
By:
lapsy pa
When: 23 May 23 17:11
The ratepayers franchise was abolished in Britain after WW2 but was kept on in The North of Ireland.

As Catholics were poorer many weren't 'rate'payers.

You can google a neutral source such as, ' encyclopedia.com, Northern Ireland: Discrimination and the campaign for civil rights'

Why wasn't everyone given a vote the same as the rest of the UK?
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 17:22
If you were ‘ poor ‘ Protestant or Catholic you lived
in a council house and could vote in local government elections
A Protestant and a catholic had exactly the same voting rights
Also in General Elections
By:
lapsy pa
When: 23 May 23 17:26
No, in general there was private employment discrimination in order to sustain Protestant economic influence.

I recommend you read that google piece above.
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 17:26
ie you lived in a council house .. you didn’t own that house
But you could vote .. catholic , Protestant or other
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 17:28
We can get onto that employment thing if you wish
But I’m taking about the lies within  the first few minutes of this documentary
You know the propaganda ( lies ) told by Ira and nationalists .. and the might actually believe it
By:
peckerdunne
When: 23 May 23 17:33
That's not true, the whole family were not allowed to vote.
By:
lapsy pa
When: 23 May 23 17:34
Even though Derry had a nationalist majority of 5,000 it had 8 council seats while the unionists had 12.

Gerrymandering at its finest and no wonder there were asking for equality in the form of peaceful civil rights marches.
By:
peckerdunne
When: 23 May 23 17:35
It doesn't matter how anyway as Westminster couldn't give a fook about unionists.
By:
lapsy pa
When: 23 May 23 17:37
Indeed the programme said 2 out of the 7 in the family were only able to vote.

So why was this system in place in NI and not the rest of the UK Lfc? What was fair or morally right about it?
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 17:46
Ok now we have established that you didn’t have
to own a house to vote ( as stated on the programme )
and of course in the 1960s the large majority of working class
families Protestants and Catholics would have lived in council houses

So the idea that this large section of both communities couldn’t vote is nonsense
and too ridiculous for anyone who stops to think for themselves
By:
lapsy pa
When: 23 May 23 17:52
Why wasn't there one man one vote as in the rest of the UK? Can you answer that as you aren't
By:
lapsy pa
When: 23 May 23 17:54
And when you finished that you can answer why it was violently opposed?
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 17:55
It would have been just about that time , the 60s , perhaps a bit earlier
that working class people started to buy their own homes
It was a very good time for all classes of people
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 17:57
You will notice that a lot of the ‘ troubles ‘
and marching for ‘ civil rights ‘ just happened to be
young students from university … though times indeed
By:
lapsy pa
When: 23 May 23 17:57
Blah blah blah,

why was there no one man one vote in NI and there was in the rest of the UK?

why was that simple request met with violence?
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 17:58
Oh .. that will be a free university education .
By:
lapsy pa
When: 23 May 23 18:03
You cannot answer honestly, all your posts concerning this are well,down the toilet.
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 18:04
Ah I think you had better check your facts lapsy
NI act can into line with the rest of U.K. , which had the same system until the 50s - and it had its merits although the city of London retains 2 votes )
about 1969 .. not sure exactly
By the way it was always one man one vote in general elections
But for council elections if you were the owner of a business you got a vote for that address also
After all the business owner had to pay tax to the council for his business and home address
So it wasn’t without merit for council elections
By:
lapsy pa
When: 23 May 23 18:05
You mean 'after' the civil right marches,ok.
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 18:09
So it was a lie to say you had to own a house to vote .. you didn’t
That to course is ludicrous but it’s believed by the likes of many
who don’t seem to understand that if true it would have disenfranchised
most of the Protestant and Catholic working class
And the mugs cannot work that out fir themselves , preferring to believe
Ira nationalist Republican propaganda / lies
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 18:10
Do they still have two votes for certain sections in south Ireland in elections ?
they did until fairly recently anyway …
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 18:12
I’ve explained to you about the ‘ civil rights ‘
A catholic and a Protestant or someone of no religion had exactly the same voting rights
By:
lapsy pa
When: 23 May 23 18:13
In Northern Ireland they had a system different from the rest of the UK,civil right marches took place to get the basic right of one man one vote.
By:
lapsy pa
When: 23 May 23 18:14
The US also had civil right marches during that decade.
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 May 23 18:16
Why do they not practice it in the south?
( oh and by the way in Germany eg .. if you want to look at your EU members
Why are you not marching , rioting ,etc there ?
By:
lapsy pa
When: 23 May 23 18:17
Why was the voting system different in NI than the rest of the UK?
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