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Mr Sunak increased NI because the PM wanted it. That said a lot about him ie he'd be bought to feather his own nest. However, he'd not resign over Partygate, but quick to jump ship over Mr Pincher. How absurd!
Green Card? Another astounding "quality" and "judgement"!!!! |
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Anyone picking up a lot of anxiety among the Brexit-headbanger faction about Truss?
Now, I don't read their newsfeeds but I detect the hand of Dominic Cummings in this. |
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NEW At least 4,000 Conservative members have now written to party chairman Andrew Stephenson demanding a vote on whether Boris Johnson should on as leader and Prime Minister. #ToryLeadershipContest
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How many members needed to get that vote?
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not happening regardless of numbers
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"How many members needed to get that vote?"
According to the 1922 committee rules; Only 1,000 votes are needed to suspend the election of a new leader and reinstate the incumbent. They've got well more than that so it's done deal. |
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Don't hold yer breath
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Yeah that wont happen
We aint dealing with logic and normal here so old rules need not be shouted for, plot holes everywhere said it before The whole thingnis literally a show and its so dumbed down because its eaten itself that way Its always been a show but now its obvious necause they need to treat the flock accordingly |
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Its all very simplistic in its messaging nowadays, its x factor for a child like society
They even call it a “stage” ffs, its not like they even hide it and they never have |
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Dom
Blog: Why trolly supporting the human handgrenade? Cos trolly knows she's mad & thinks she'll blow & he can make a comeback. Why did I give her this nickname? Cos she blows up all she touches https://t.co/JleSeUbcjG Lol |
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Alistair Carmichael MP
@amcarmichaelMP · 4h Has to be said that the "Liz Truss as long term sleeper agent to destroy the Conservatives from within" plan was one of our most inspired. |
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Liz Truss as PM
Keir Starmer will be creaming himself |
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so will nicola but ironically she is better than bojo.
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Pretty sure they will be level pegging at best for her..
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Sunak against Truss, ffs come back Boris all is forgiven.
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https://twitter.com/stewartmaclean/status/1549876085352980482
. Liz Truss addresses her fellow LibDems at their national conference. |
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1. All politicians deceive, brag, spin, distort and sometimes frankly have to lie [maybe internationally with other political leaders who they may despise or hate - but in order to secure better deals, national safety, long term good, hostages etc] - thats in the job description. I would argue that most do this with more subtlety than Boris - certainly Nicola and Keir and the rest ofthe Labour front bench do. 2. If Liz Truss is a lib dem mole - then she would soon face a no-con vote and be out, with Boris likely to return when the Tory MPs realise that Boris' fibs were not that bad in substance or comparison. 3. Is there anything to stop the 1922 committee re-instating Boris' name in the last part of this internal election [by voting themselves to change their rules] and would Betfair then have to declare these markets void since i do not see his name on the markets?
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I think you are in the realms of fantasy there.
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No - just posing a question - the 1922 committee were close to changing their rules about no confidence votes had Boris not eventually offered to leave, so what's to stop them changing rules again: it's an internal Tory matter - however bad it may look to doa 'u-turn' - obviously the circumstances would need to deteriorate considerably for that to become an option but 7 days i sa long time in politics! Sure likelihood is 'snowflake in hell chance' but i merely asked if anything could legally prevent this theoretically?
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No need to change the rules. After Truss/Sunak are elected in just over a months time, then all Conservative MPs have to do is send in letters of no confidence to Graham Brady and the process begins again, with Boris included if he so desires in any possible future leader election.
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embarassing !
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ah - but thats a few electricicy bills away or who knows what will happen in Ukraine or covid, summer riots, natural disasters etc - while we're effectively running rudderless
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Rudderless? Boris Johnson is still the Prime Minister. He will remain the Prime Minister until the next Prime Minister is chosen.
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Sure - but Boris himself said he's not intending any iniatives meanwhile [tho that wouldnt stop him normally!]. There really are a mountain of things that the government should be acting on, planning and progressing - obv the economy needs serious management with an early interim budget and reassurance for the most hard-up; Ukraine needs day to day attention; the coming strikes and wage deals need prophylactic care; climate change needs a revised strategy with preparation todeal with fires, flooding etc and of course helping to alleviate the cost and supply of energy. Despite summer recess these things need tackling along with the old chestnuts as NHS wait list, Policing needs, prison security, immigration control - none of these are satisfactory currently. At the root of all of these is a major underlying problem with the civil service - Cummings is right that this is the source of major problems and wastage -I speak as an ex civil servant - and it requires a total overhaul - the 'mind think' is on a par with the BBC and nothing much can be salvaged without a massive cull of management, HR and executives.
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Poll of Conservative members for the next party leader:
Truss: 49% Sunak: 31% Won’t Vote: 6% Don’t Know: 15% Won’t vote/Don’t knows excluded: Truss: 62% Sunak: 38% Via @YouGov , On 20-21 July. Looks like white remainer massive favourite over non white leaver with Conservative members. |
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i heard that the ballot papers arent sent out for another two weeks so maybe there is time for truss to make a mess of things.
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Looks like white remainer massive favourite over non white leaver with Conservative members.
Why the need to mention colour? What relevance does it have in this vote? Can't understand some peoples obsession with race. |
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The "obsession" isn't mine. It is with the 97% white, mostly elderly Conservative members. Any other white person against Truss and she wouldn't be favourite.
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Day after sky debates for ballot papers.
Tories electing leader by crooked postal vote.. you almost couldn't make it up. Tories out sattiring satire, again |
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No doubt Timber and the democracy haters who say that postal voting is fixed will be on shortly
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Plenty of other democracy haters like lfc say that postal voting is fixed. Who knows, maybe they are correct?
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Truss 13% Sunak 11% on first choice
20% gap head to head Deffo swingable, if the postal vote ain't fixed |
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Truss cant lose this vote unless they hatchet job it
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It's like multiple examples of white/non white candidates applying to universities at Oxford. Despite having identical qualifications, the white British sounding named candidate had a far better chance of receiving an interview than the non white foreign sounding individual. Perhaps ballot papers are being creatively sent to Conservative Party members using a similar system? There is no way of knowing for certain.
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Liz Truss drinking champagne on the Commons terrace tonight. “I think we’re going to win, but we’re also going to have a fantastic time as we barrel around the country”, she told her team.
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It protects against the gaffe, before the vote, we all know its coming sooner or later.
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If she drinks too much shampoo, she might
well hit the ground... |
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BBC R4 news had economist Gerard Lyons bigging up Liz Truss' new tax plans
They say Gerard is from the firm Netwealth But fail to state he is part of the right-wing think tank Policy Exchange as well as a founder of Economists for Brexit He studied under Patrick Minford Earlier in the morning on BBC Radio 4 Today Liz Truss could only cite Patrick Minford as supporting her economic policy So, naturally, for balance, the BBC bring on one of Patrick's acolytes as economist number 2 but with no counter viewpoint ... |
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Too stale, too pale, too male, too whale.
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