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......... Brexit just goes from bad to wurst......
......... Brexit just goes from bad to wurst......
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Peace in our time?
Let’s get Brexit done? |
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Johnson-Macron "what would you do if sausages from Toulouse could not be moved to Paris"
Macron-Johnson "comparison does not work because Paris and Toulouse were both part of the same country" Seems the force behind the bile and pettiness (Macron) is as clued up as a "frog in a blender" |
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raab/johnson
? why cant scotland and wales have the same berst of both worlds deal that NI have answer raab /johnson because everyone no,s NI is in au unique position and in a different position to everyone else in uk repeated every week by johnson to blackford at pmq,s for last 18 months, if raab and johnson think NI is exactly the same as rest of uk ,someone neds to ask them why there,s a border in the irish sea |
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would be a lot more cross border traffic between Wales-England and Scotland-England than NI-GB, not practical
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We need to take control of our borders
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Theoretically if there were no Borders anywhere then people would migrate to places they think would offer them the best chance in life and at first this will work until the place they have migrated to becomes saturated and financially unable to provide for the people. All basic logic but this kind of pressure is building in many of the West even though the West's best days are behind it.
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Foreign policy experts and former British diplomats said that while the summit may have its successes on advancing initiatives on climate change and vaccinations for developing countries, it had also shown the UK to be distrusted and therefore unable to be a true global leader. Sir Nigel Sheinwald, a former UK ambassador to Washington, said: “The lesson of this week is that you can’t have a global Britain which is genuinely respected and influential and impactful around the world if people doubt your basic bona fides. There is no point in writing new Atlantic charters which depend on mutual trust, mutual confidence and the rule of law when you are operating as chancers.”
Sheinwald added that Biden would now be expecting Johnson to solve the Northern Ireland impasse with the EU. “After making the stand they did, the Americans will know that they will look rather ineffective if a negotiated settlement to this is not found, so the stakes are quite high.” Lord Peter Ricketts, a former permanent secretary at the Foreign Office and also an ex-UK ambassador to France, said Johnson was finding out that it was not possible to have good bilateral relations with France and Germany while treating the EU like an enemy. “We have haemorraghed and squandered trust,” said Ricketts. “They announced the new Atlantic charter two days ago which has bold lines about sustaining international law and the norms of standards and international cooperation, that we will uphold the rules based order, and then we threaten to walk away from a deal that we signed 18 months ago, so there is a total lack of coherence there which I think people sense. “In these bilaterals with Macron and Merkel – rather than thrashing out a policy on China which is in our and Biden’s own interests – instead leaders are distracted by having to make these polemical points about Europe.” Another former UK ambassador to Washington and the EU, Kim Darroch, said that Johnson had failed in his big ambition for the summit: “An international agreement is not an a la carte menu from which you can choose what you like and ignore the rest. Once you sign off on it you have to implement it properly and fully. Global Britain is not going to work unless we are seen to live up to our commitments.” |
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As a PR exercise for Britain, this summit has been a disaster; I cannot believe the Downing Street strategists will be in a rush to repeat the mistake.
At the same time, they'll need to to something to repair the damage ... so either (a) Johnson will do a U-turn, agree to a temporary alignment of SPS rules for the sake of stabilising relations with the EU, sell it as a win for NI and Scottish fishermen, and subsequently forget that it was supposed to be temporary or (b) for the sake of the domestic audience, he'll try to save face, and go for an economic war with the Big Bad EU (because we know that the EU needs us more than we need them   ) |
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Grauniad c+p who would have thought it?
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Translation of Macron's speech
"France has never for a single moment disputed UK sovereignty of it territorial integrity or the respect for that, Brexit is the child of this UK sovereignty. And it took up thousands of hours of UK Leaders time, We Europeans know all about UK Sovereignty, no other European country has made the others spend so much time on its' sovereignty - We respect it! Because of Brexit rules were put in place over a period of several years - a protocol and a future trade deal - all we want is for it to be respected , seriously, calmly, professionally - it's as simple as that! When Johnson became PM he refused the Backstop which Theresa May had wanted - it did reconcile the sovereignty of UK territory, the GFA and the Single market. Johnson knew very well back then there would have to be checks and he himself signed a protocol about Northern Ireland meaning checks. Full respect of sovereignty in Northern Ireland cannot mean not respecting the sovereignty of 27 member states who have created a single market with free movement but outside border controls. You cannot blame the EU for your own incoherence. I do things very calmly, I think we should all calm down, I want us to achieve together what we decided together a few months ago calmly and with mutual respect and looking for arguments each morning is not the right way" Some hard truths there for the UK |
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Get a life, sad sap.
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Macron seems confused .Of course the UK respects the EUs sovereignty , Johnson has merely told Macron that he must respect U.K. sovereignty
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johnson doesnt respect uk sov he,s agreed to a border in irish sea and agreed to NI been treated differently to rest of uk, best of both worlds he sold it as,why should macron
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You got an internet clatter off 1sttp there lfc, you can't dispute his post.
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no no , the best thing to do is continue as we are now , free trade between NI and mainland Britain That can go on indefinitely without any problems . If the EU keep their noses out |
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We won’t interfere in trade between Paris and Dublin it’s not concerning us
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Go back to Imperial measurement next lfc,that will confuse them....oh wait....
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Imperial measurements make so much sense and are much nicer
How tall is that person ? Oh yes 6ft 5” what height that oh yes I understand exactly , pints pounds and inches very good |
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I don’t want a Liverpool goalkeeper who is only 1. something metres
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It is of course not the principal of the protocol that is being contested ,what is being contested is how the EU proposes that the protocol is implemented , if the principal is accepted of the protocol and the reason it is needed "to protect the EU single market" then the risk is easily ascertained and it can be implemented in a "reasonable" way ,instead of the childish ,pedantic ,bureaucratic way proposed by Macron as a clumsy punishment tool and to make the UK seek re-alignment.
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johnson should have asked macron why toulouse and paris didnt need a protocol
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flat16 , spot on.
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The G7 Summit was a great success for Great Britain and Northern Ireland but especially for Cornwall because at least Cornwall got some money!
Well done Doris. Putting the Great back into Britain and....Northern Ireland! Jolly good! |
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Kier Starmer has just agreed with Boris that there should be no checks within U.K.
well said sir |
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Are you a goddam Commie now lfc?
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You’ve never even been on strike have you wd?
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Johnson will drop NI at the drop of a hat!
From the very beginning, this has always been a landmine waiting to be stood upon by the Loyalists. The Irish government recognised very quickly how NI would be a huge problem if Leave won the referendum; and the EU were very quickly persuaded that NI was a huge problem when Leave won the referendum. Johnson & Co are only now catching up with what the rest of us have known (and game-planned) for five years. And - such sweet irony - Johnson's fall-back position is exactly the same red line with which he strangled Theresa May: not wishing to stand over the break-up of the Kingdom. However, he's pushed the Great Buccaneering Brexit boat out so far now that he's at risk of encouraging the real British people (you know, the ones who were born and raised in Britain, not the ones in some overseas territory who speak with a weird accent and pledge their loyalty to the Dutch monarchy every July) ... of encouraging those Britons to demand the Brexit he promised. If the 17.4m want a border in the Irish Sea so that "the Mainland" can get on with their buccaneering, they'll get their border in the Irish Sea. |
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You’ve never even been on strike have you wd?
I did half a day once lfc. The only person to walk out but I talk the talk and walk the walk! Since then I have been mostly self Employed. |
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Britain was using the metric system prior to joining the EEC (EU for the dopes).
The decision for the UK to adopt the metric system was made in 1965 after lobbying by British Industry. The U.K. is having some sort of a breakdown and it requires help. Greece: 5-Year Greek Government Bond goes negative. As a comparison - UK 5-yr yields 0.3% Eurozone success story Greece from zero to hero. |
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FFS course starmmer/labour do because they advovate joining the single market/customs union,or aligning on agri foods do you ?
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But,but if they align on same standards isn't it T. Mays deal except you get the NIP thrown in?
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Of course not ist poster the U.K. is a sovereign nation
As long as the EU understands that everything’s fine |
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Lol , look we have no interest in being in the single market / customs union
Get over it remainers |
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Regarding Reunification of Ireland
I would think, wrt NI, the healthcare proposals in Slaintecare are close to the NHS system that there would be no problem. The real problem is the phasing out of the private health care system here, but that does not apply to NI. With policing, the PNSI would be run separately for a time, being absorbed by both transfers from one police force to the other, (we already have one ex PNSI officer in the Gardai) and the question of laws will be dealt with by the same type of mechanism where the Supreme Court would be the arbiter, again taking the NI law for NI cases and as is for our cases. Social welfare, wage rates (particularly for state employees) are a bigger problem, but that is just money - if the donors donate, it is not a big issue. If the UK (England) wants to get rid of NI, they will get rid of it |
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you havnt starmmer has and youve just said well played sir
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If and when the people of N Ireland vote for a united ireland in a referendum that’s fine it’s a decision for themselves
And of course make they don’t have access to the NHS |
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And stop free movement and the right to live and work in Britain also , cheers
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A border in the Irish Sea if you like , that’s good
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