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By:
Sergeant Cecil
When: 13 Nov 20 21:13
Still laughing at "beginning of a quasi-anointment process" because he let him speak for 2 minutes at the end of a 45-minute press conference.
By:
FXDUX
When: 13 Nov 20 21:15
I'm not going to resist your contention that I was clutching at straws.
By:
FXDUX
When: 13 Nov 20 21:15
I'm not going to resist your contention that I was clutching at straws.
By:
FXDUX
When: 13 Nov 20 21:16
I'm not going to resist your contention that I was clutching at straws.
By:
FXDUX
When: 13 Nov 20 21:16
Oops.
By:
A_T
When: 13 Nov 20 21:17
Pence for Nobel prize. King Pence. Pence emperor of the known universe
By:
Sergeant Cecil
When: 13 Nov 20 21:17
Good, looks like we are in the beginning of a quasi-agreement process.
By:
FXDUX
When: 13 Nov 20 21:24
Yes, it seems that I should just suck it up.

You know, I went to see the movie Casino when I was at uni. Drove a bunch of my housemates to a multiplex outside the city. We got there late, one of them asked us to wait or him while he went to the loo. No way, but I did save him an aisle seat and spend the first fifteen minutes continually turning my head around to spot and beckon him.

He didn't turn up.

Oh well. I figured he must have slipped in and I missed him.

About an hour later suddenly he lands with a thump on the seat next to me.

"I went into the wrong screen. I've just seen the last hour of the movie."

I sat there thinking, well, what's going to happen next is as clear as the morning sun itself.

Sure enough, at the climax,

"Oh! Yeah! This is the bit where!"
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 13 Nov 20 21:25
America should just split into two countries, Reps and Dems, everybody has to shuffle to the left or right dependant on their political persuasion, then everyone's happy.
By:
FXDUX
When: 13 Nov 20 21:34
I was only really interested in going long Pence, but logically I should be laying Trump too.
By:
FXDUX
When: 13 Nov 20 21:36
If Trump gets his rulings and his price slumps dramatically to one point something, I am going to lay the fxdux out of him.
By:
llama1
When: 13 Nov 20 22:27
It is interesting to see that Betfair have set up a market on their Sportsbook:

This is its title:


Will Donald Trump be present at Joe Biden's inauguration?
By:
JML
When: 13 Nov 20 22:48
I've resisted till now but I've just taken my free £1000.
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 13 Nov 20 22:53
PAY THE MAN !!!  ffs
By:
bingo bongo
When: 14 Nov 20 01:53
NYT: "President Trump has put his personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, in charge of his campaign lawsuits"

I think Betfair can safely settle the markets now.....
By:
Timber
When: 14 Nov 20 07:42
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/
By:
Timber
When: 14 Nov 20 07:42
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https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/
By:
dave1357
When: 14 Nov 20 07:53
an EO from two years ago? What is your point timbermug?
By:
A_T
When: 14 Nov 20 08:59
NYT: "President Trump has put his personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, in charge of his campaign lawsuits"


lefties the world over literally shaking with fear

wonder if in years to come they'll let Donnie and Rudy share a cell?
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 14 Nov 20 09:07
Is he still on about the 12th?

I thought we’d be paid out by now!

If there were a massive earthquake on the West coast and half of California was submerged Lex Luthor style and Biden and Harris died as did Chump but Mike Ponce survived, Betfair would still declare Biden the winner of the 2020 USA Presidential Election Market!

The Offside Rule would have as much influence on the decision to pay out as did the lbw Law and that would be as much as the Twelfth Amendment.

The 12th is an interesting hypothetical and I have always wondered what would happen if so thank you chaps for educating me but right now I am done with it. I want my filthy lucre!
By:
GAZO
When: 14 Nov 20 09:07
probally worried he will scratch their bo***cks instead of his own
By:
bingo bongo
When: 14 Nov 20 09:47
North Carolina settled now, they are only settling states that Trump wins....
By:
roache
When: 14 Nov 20 21:26
My misses reckons Trump has won cos she says she's looked at the USA political map and there are more red bits than blue bits  Laugh
By:
GAZO
When: 14 Nov 20 21:34
does she work for betfair
By:
Sica Dan
When: 14 Nov 20 23:51
Almost All the 'flyover' states are Red,maybe the US could have 2 presidents ! lol
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 15 Nov 20 00:17

Nov 14, 2020 -- 4:47AM, bingo bongo wrote:


North Carolina settled now, they are only settling states that Trump wins....


They know Wink

By:
unclepuncle
When: 15 Nov 20 07:17
FXDUX - there can only be two winners, Biden or Trump as the rules are very clear:

Next President - Rules
Event Start Time
03 November 2020, 10:00
Win Only Market


MARKET INFORMATION


Who will be elected to be the next President of the United States of America as a result of the 2020 presidential election?


This market will be settled according to the candidate that has the most projected Electoral College votes won at the 2020 presidential election. Any subsequent events such as a ‘faithless elector’ will have no effect on the settlement of this market.[/b]

Once the votes are finalised Biden will likely have the most projected electoral votes, even if Georgia is flipped for Trump. Therefore the market pays out on Biden irrespective of any chicanery that might go on after that.
As well as Georgia Trump needs to flip Pennsylvania and one other to go ahead. But Pence, or Harris, cannot win no matter what goes on.
By:
DanielKoellerer
When: 15 Nov 20 08:28
Unreal that they've settled North Carolina and not say, Nevada.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 15 Nov 20 12:18
Frankie Dux

What about the 12th?

You spent a lot of time educating us on it? Is it as much use as the off side rule or lbw law in settling this?
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 15 Nov 20 12:19
and didn't you say Mike Ponce was good value?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 Nov 20 12:40
Probably want var brought
in to have goal ruled out for
lbw such is the tosh he spouts.
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Nov 20 12:45
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
55m
He won because the Election was ****. NO VOTE WATCHERS OR OBSERVERS allowed, vote tabulated by a Radical Left privately owned company, Dominion, with a bad reputation & bum equipment that couldn’t even qualify for Texas (which I won by a lot!), the Fake & Silent Media, & more!

Trump admits Biden won!  Will Betfair pay out now I wonder? Laugh
By:
FXDUX
When: 15 Nov 20 15:44
I made two posts on the morons your bus is leaving thread, in one last desperate attempt to enlighten the gaslighting idiots on this forum, but a petal obviously complained and my 972 post count went down to 970.

Receiving a majority of the projected votes, the stage after the stage we are at now, doesn't mean receiving a big box of projections from CNN and Reuters, it means receiving those votes which were (previously) projected.

Specifically, receiving those votes, which had been projected or predicted, but which in our current plight were forecast without enough certainty to be conclusively indicative.

It's a fine point, and it's manifestly way beyond the pea-brained capacities of the snickers bar crawlers.

The candidate with the projected majority wins. Provided there's certainty in that projected majority.

So, the candidate who receives those votes, those projected votes, who ACTUALLY receives those votes which were predicted/projected earlier down the line, wins.

The question an intelligent person would ask is, when DOES a candidate receive the majority of those votes-which-were-projected-by-some-networks-previously-on-la-law-but-not-with-sufficient-certainty?

There are two possible answers. They receive those votes[whichwereprojecteddotcom] at the meeting on 14 December when the votes are actually cast and received.

Or, they receive them on 6 January when Congress opens all the votes, counts them, and conclusively decides who has which votes, in the event of dispute.

In 99.99% of elections, receiving a majority of the votes[voteswhichyesareprojectedinthesensethatoncetheywereuponatime] on 14 December would be seen as copiously certain by Betfair to pay out.

But there is always the exception. And the exception is an election where there is counting or litigation that takes place after the electoral college meets, that causes a certified vote, and not just a certified vote but a duly cast electoral college vote, to be held as something different when the Congress meets in January. It happened at least once before, and this election may, or may not, have the ingredients for it to happen again.

So, the moment of receiving the projected majority, which-at-the-point-it-is-received-is-no-longer-a-projected-majority-but-an-actual-majority, if one was being fully prudent taking into account Betfair's rules specifying alternative settlement in accordance with the Twelfth, which we would only know if things do take a turn on 6 January, ought not to be seen as 14 December but 6 January.

Is the full, correct answer.
By:
FXDUX
When: 15 Nov 20 15:44
If God were to say to a seagull following a trawler, you're better off even with long sardine odds than you are on the precipice of being granted the wisdom not to argue with ants,
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Nov 20 16:02
ffs, give us a break, ya clown.Sad
By:
lay it
When: 15 Nov 20 16:40
The second betfair admit Biden has won I will withdraw all funds and only put in whatever amount I need for a particular bet.And you should all do the same. They are holding £500 Million of punters money. This lot have got all your money and laughing at you.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 Nov 20 16:41
Not a bad move anyway.
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Nov 20 16:50
I have withdrawn everything that was in my account. When they pay up, I will be taking that out also.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 Nov 20 16:56
I used to leave cash sloshing around
and even though banks pay
nowt I tend to remove most of it.

Easy enough to deposit.

Must cost them too for each deposit
and withdrawal, hey ho.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 15 Nov 20 18:10
Frankie chill out!

I mentioned 14th December and 6th January in an early post too. If the election is going to be stolen it would have been on 6th January but the votes will be in by then. The old men in the GOP will have to have made a move by then. The recounts will be done well before then so the 12th will have as much effect as the offside rule.

Incidentally someone showed me a clip of Michael Moore when some of Bernie Sanders votes at their electoral college went to Shrillary. It does happen.
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