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By:
politicspunter
When: 16 Oct 19 22:00
Anyone wish to make a case for a November election?
By:
thegiggilo
When: 17 Oct 19 13:14
December looking ominous now.
By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Oct 19 16:46
Not much movement on this market today. Current prices...

October 1000.0
November 14.5
December 3.3
2020 or later 1.55
By:
politicspunter
When: 19 Oct 19 17:42
As expected, following events in Parliament today, big changes. Current prices....

October 1000.0
November 100.0
December 3.25
2020 or later 1.4
By:
anxious
When: 19 Oct 19 17:58
i dont think there will be election in december , i dont think there has ever been one in December ?
By:
anxious
When: 19 Oct 19 17:59
Next year now i think
By:
geordie1956
When: 19 Oct 19 18:03
I heard someone on telly say they can't hold an election after early dec because of likely weather problems; very short days etc in Scottish Highlands; Northerly parts so that probably rules out Jan / early Feb as well ... could be March!
By:
thegiggilo
When: 19 Oct 19 18:04
Let's hope so !!
By:
mafeking
When: 20 Oct 19 18:48
they certainly won't be campaigning over the xmas holidays. end of feb the earliest if it's not first 2 weeks in december
By:
thegiggilo
When: 20 Oct 19 18:50
12th december..
By:
politicspunter
When: 21 Oct 19 13:47
Todays prices...

October 1000.0
November 18.0
December 3.0
2020 or later 1.58

Folks backing November today but I am not sure legally that could be an option. By law, there needs to be twenty five working days minimum for campaigning.
By:
mafeking
When: 21 Oct 19 14:08
yes it's a non runner if not called this week. no indication of that
By:
Angoose
When: 21 Oct 19 14:17
SNP sticking in an amendment to try and force a general election after an article 50 extension is secured up to at least 31 January.
By:
Angoose
When: 21 Oct 19 14:18
They want an election this year ahead of Salmond's trial in January.
By:
politicspunter
When: 21 Oct 19 21:12
Folks still throwing their money away on a November election that would have to be voted through this week for it to happen.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 21 Oct 19 21:16
this brexit has cost a few punters a few squids...

anybody with any understanding of uk politics must be having a
good christmas this year.
By:
OnePercenter
When: 22 Oct 19 09:49
Even though their slogan was Trust the People it's hard to see Labour voting for an election any time soon as they'll get absolutely hammered at the polls and the last thing they want is Boris with a healthy working majority.
By:
politicspunter
When: 22 Oct 19 11:14

Oct 22, 2019 -- 9:49AM, OnePercenter wrote:


Even though their slogan was Trust the People it's hard to see Labour voting for an election any time soon as they'll get absolutely hammered at the polls and the last thing they want is Boris with a healthy working majority.


Don't be so sure.

By:
OnePercenter
When: 22 Oct 19 11:26
A lot of Remainers in the big cities will go with the UnDems.

Out in the sticks Labour are seen as the party who have blocked Brexit.

So it's hard to know who will definitely be voting n for them apart from the dyed in the wool "I've voted Labour all my life" brigade.


And don't forget Boris has a near Teflon coating  and is a far far better campaigner than Theresa May.

In the comments section of the Guardian, on forums like this, on Twitter and on Gogglebox Labour are very popular. IRL people think Corbyn is a dick.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 22 Oct 19 11:28
he may be a good campaigner but he is carp in a debate


they may wish they had chosen gove...
By:
politicspunter
When: 22 Oct 19 11:33
Yes, Gove is in a different league from Boris as a debater but has other obvious drawbacks. Boris task to win a workable government just got a lot tougher as I will assume the DUP will  ditch him now.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 22 Oct 19 11:47
maybe gove can do the amber rudd job?

standing in for absent pm in debates

shirley a debate will be tagged onto bill to force early election.

corbyn is so much better than bj at debating.
By:
thegiggilo
When: 22 Oct 19 11:59
Labour putting forward a december election would just about sum up their wring decision making,if it had been up to corbyn they would have had one by now and lost by 250 seats..
By:
politicspunter
When: 22 Oct 19 12:09
It's only the government that can propose an election.
By:
OnePercenter
When: 22 Oct 19 12:10
Corbyn was much more popular back at the last election and he couldn't even beat the worse Tory PM in living memory.

Boris won London twice. Have a look at the political map of the capital and you'll realise what n achievement that was.

The reason we haven't had a GE yet is even Labour know they are doomed.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 22 Oct 19 12:12
corbyn was less popular entering last election than he is now

on a level playing field he cant lose to an ass like bj
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 22 Oct 19 12:12
corbyn was less popular entering last election than he is now

on a level playing field he cant lose to an ass like bj
By:
thegiggilo
When: 22 Oct 19 12:14
politicspunter 22 Oct 19 12:09 
It's only the government that can propose an election

I mean't agreeing to it,it's obvious it will be brought into play this week.
By:
politicspunter
When: 22 Oct 19 12:17

Oct 22, 2019 -- 12:10PM, OnePercenter wrote:


Corbyn was much more popular back at the last election and he couldn't even beat the worse Tory PM in living memory.Boris won London twice. Have a look at the political map of the capital and you'll realise what n achievement that was.The reason we haven't had a GE yet is even Labour know they are doomed.


Let's try some facts.
Corbyn , during the election campaign, increased the Labour vote share from 25% to 40%. He gained 30 seats. He started off at half the percentage points of the tories (50-25).
Boris beat a single candidate representing an unpopular government. Would you have voted for Ken Livingstone?
The reason we haven't had an election yet is because the tories introduced the Fixed Term Parliament Act.

By:
politicspunter
When: 22 Oct 19 12:17

Oct 22, 2019 -- 12:14PM, thegiggilo wrote:


politicspunter 22 Oct 19 12:09  It's only the government that can propose an electionI mean't agreeing to it,it's obvious it will be brought into play this week.


Entirely possible gigg.

By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 22 Oct 19 12:19
why cant mps take control of order paper, from government, again, and propose
an election, not that they want to, nor need to whilst bj is willing
By:
mafeking
When: 22 Oct 19 12:20
in a lot of constituencies in london they weigh the labour votes no matter how disreputable or incompetent the candidate is. the average punter wouldn't have a clue who their MP is. they just vote for the party or leader
By:
Angoose
When: 22 Oct 19 12:21
Are you suggesting that members of the electorate don't understand what they vote for?
By:
OnePercenter
When: 22 Oct 19 12:28
Like I said Corbyn was very popular last election, peak Corbyn and he was fighting a political disaster called Theresa May. That's won't be the case next time.

Who'd vote for Ken Livingstone? Have you forgotten he was the beloved leader of the GLC & Mayor for 8 years!!!!!!
By:
henry14
When: 22 Oct 19 12:28
Sorry, is today's vote on the boris deal that wasnt voted for on saturday because of the letwin admentant?
By:
politicspunter
When: 22 Oct 19 12:35

Oct 22, 2019 -- 12:28PM, OnePercenter wrote:


Like I said Corbyn was very popular last election, peak Corbyn and he was fighting a political disaster called Theresa May. That's won't be the case next time. Who'd vote for Ken Livingstone? Have you forgotten he was the beloved leader of the GLC & Mayor for 8 years!!!!!!


Livingstone was the Labour representative of a popular Tony Blair Labour government. When the banking crisis hit, he was out, as was the Labour government shortly afterwards. The London electorate today isn't the same as when Boris was a candidate.

By:
Angoose
When: 22 Oct 19 12:38

Oct 22, 2019 -- 12:28PM, henry14 wrote:


Sorry, is today's vote on the boris deal that wasnt voted for on saturday because of the letwin admentant?


There will be two votes today.
First vote will be following the debate on the second reading of the Withdrawal Agreement Bill.
Second vote will be on the three day timetable for the completion of the WAB as set out by JRM last night.

By:
Angoose
When: 22 Oct 19 12:40
First vote will likely go through.
Second one looks very tight and may well be dependant on how the debate plays out.
By:
politicspunter
When: 22 Oct 19 12:44

Oct 22, 2019 -- 12:40PM, Angoose wrote:


First vote will likely go through.Second one looks very tight and may well be dependant on how the debate plays out.


Have you got your table handy of voting intention breakdown for the second vote? My gut feeling right now is that it will lose.

By:
Angoose
When: 22 Oct 19 12:48
Right now, it's so difficult to get a handle on how individuals will vote.

Talk of as many as 30 Labour MP's voting for the WAB at second reading.
If true, then it becomes very difficult to predict if, having clearly crossed the line, do they remain on that side of the street.
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