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05 Sep 19 19:43
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Anyone involved in this market?  Price volatility is crazy. Current prices...

October 2019  2.78
November 2019  2.52
December 2019  6.8
2020 or later   10.0

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By:
mafeking
When: 05 Sep 19 20:08
only way MPs could make themselves less popular than at the moment is to feck up xmas as well by having it run into december Crazy
By:
politicspunter
When: 05 Sep 19 20:10
Well, I agree but the December price has collapsed over the last few days and today in particular.
By:
Pete Watermelon
When: 05 Sep 19 21:26
Why don't you "check the polls" ?
By:
Pete Watermelon
When: 05 Sep 19 21:26
Why don't you "check the polls" ?
By:
politicspunter
When: 05 Sep 19 21:28
What polls ? If you can provide a link to any, more than happy to have a look at them.
By:
n88uk
When: 06 Sep 19 02:22
Too late to get involved now, price on October was mad days ago as I pointed out in some thread. Tbh it still isn't good now, hasn't an October election basically got to be called on Monday now?

Price on December was curious a few days ago but coming crashing down now. Supposedly the rebels want 17-21 November, but how do you actually get that week, if parliament isn't back until like 17th October, that's a real quick turnaround to call a general election in which is traditionally 6 weeks, which would actually take you into December after Johnson gets an extension.
By:
markzzz
When: 06 Sep 19 08:37
Yesterday morning John Curtice was live on BBC with a detailed assessment of the possible election dates.

He concluded that December was the most likely month for the next election.

His political opinions are very well respected. That has probably played a big part in the shortening of the December price.
By:
politicspunter
When: 06 Sep 19 09:05
Thanks for the info guys, most helpful.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 06 Sep 19 09:25
if bj takes the option of topping himself in a ditch we might have to wait a few months out of lack of respect.

mugabe gone today, bj makes him look normal
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 06 Sep 19 09:48
One was very popular with his fan base and seen as a hero for breaking his country free before he turned his back on democracy and plunged his economy into a meltdown that will take decades to recover.

And then there's Mugabe.
By:
thegiggilo
When: 06 Sep 19 09:49
Doris mugabe...
By:
Pete Watermelon
When: 06 Sep 19 09:55
Leave before 31st October is an absolute gift. Can't believe people haven't taken this down to sub 1.20 as in reality this is a 1.10 shot.

We will not be out by the end of October. It's a better betting proposition than leaving with no deal by the end of the year.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 06 Sep 19 09:56
dont tell doris
By:
politicspunter
When: 06 Sep 19 10:40

Sep 6, 2019 -- 9:55AM, Pete Watermelon wrote:


Leave before 31st October is an absolute gift. Can't believe people haven't taken this down to sub 1.20 as in reality this is a 1.10 shot.We will not be out by the end of October. It's a better betting proposition than leaving with no deal by the end of the year.


That's a different market (see under brexit).

By:
Pete Watermelon
When: 06 Sep 19 10:46
Yes I know. I meant to say back "No" on the Leave before 31st Oct market. No Deal market runs to the end of the year.

Deal or not, they won't get anything through by the end of October. The end of October market should be well under 1.20, it won't happen.
By:
n88uk
When: 06 Sep 19 11:21
It's quite ironic that Boris' prorogation now is basically going to kill any chance of an October election he wants. If it doesn't pass on Monday there seems pretty much no chance of an October election. He will go on the offensive during the prorogation of course, as we can see attacking when facing no opposition is his speciality, but he will be pretty much forced into getting an extension immediately upon return. All the while the country will wonder why we are shutting down parliament for 5 weeks in a time of crisis.
By:
politicspunter
When: 06 Sep 19 11:22
Not a huge amount of movement in this market as things appear to have calmed down to a frenzy. Current prices...

Oct 3.3
Nov 2.02
Dec 7.4
2020 or later 8.8
By:
n88uk
When: 06 Sep 19 11:32
The how they will get a November election bit will be interesting. As it appears now likely the election will basically be called straight after we get an extension, but 6 weeks is normally the time frame for an election and that will take us into December not November, though of course it is possible to get a quicker election, it's just whether there is any real desire to purposefully have a quicker election campaign?
By:
Angoose
When: 06 Sep 19 12:16
BREAKING NEWS : Labour and other UK opposition parties agree not to back PM’s demand for general election before October EU summit

A number of statements reconfirming that they remain united and will block any election vote on Monday.
By:
politicspunter
When: 06 Sep 19 12:52
That has had a major impact on the markets. Current prices...

Oct 7.6
Nov 1.66
Dec 6.2
2020 or later 7.4
By:
Angoose
When: 06 Sep 19 13:33
Now then, could we see Boris the Bold row back from the proroguing of parliament on Monday when he fails in his second attempt to force an October election?

Would appear that they have changed tack and will concentrate efforts on getting a revised deal with the EU.
Of course, their efforts are restricted by their insistence of the removal of the backstop, but we are now hearing of alternatives being put forward.

So cancel the proroguing, cancel party conference season, keep requesting an election, keep up the chicken jibes, public opinion angered over rejections of GE's, bring back MV4 with Theresa May's unpublished Stephen Kinnock supported revised version, force Labour to have to vote it down.

All of this would keep up the narrative of Labour being the problem until JC eventually caves and GE5 passes ?
By:
politicspunter
When: 06 Sep 19 13:38
2020 or later550£0.09£49.41
Ref: 177445735470Matched: 07:52 05-Sep-19
2020 or later590£0.05£29.45
Ref: 177443894255Matched: 07:13 05-Sep-19
2020 or later920£0.16£147.04
Ref: 177440556475Matched: 05:22 05-Sep-19
2020 or later920£0.05£45.95
Ref: 177440556475Matched: 05:22 05-Sep-19
2020 or later920£0.03£27.57
Ref: 177440556475Matched: 05:22 05-Sep-19
2020 or later920£0.03£27.57
Ref: 177440556475Matched: 05:22 05-Sep-19

If they could just hang on for a little while longer I will have a quiet chuckle.
By:
gutfeeling
When: 06 Sep 19 13:56
So no GE before 31st October,
Johnson at this point refuses to ask EU for another extension,
NO deal to be blocked at 17.00 today, so.....

His options will be as of 17.01,
Ask the EU for a extension(Refuses to do so),
Revoke A50( Unlikely as his career will be dead),
Ignore the law ( Hmm, That'll be interesting),
Resign,



Whens he resigning ?
By:
gutfeeling
When: 06 Sep 19 13:59
Oh 1 more thing, Macron suggests he may veto any extension requests as trust with the UK has broken down in his opinion.
By:
Angoose
When: 06 Sep 19 14:07
Playing to his domestic audience again, a properly presented case for an extension would see him reluctantly agree but appear to be the one pulling the strings on its length.
By:
gutfeeling
When: 06 Sep 19 14:14
Maybe, Even so Johnson has a small selection of options & zero power currently, As long as opposing parties keep him boxed in he's well & truly f@@@@d.
By:
Angoose
When: 06 Sep 19 14:22
He has now stated the following :

Asked how he would deliver a new deal at the EU summit on 17 October, he said:

"By powers of persuasion. Because there’s absolutely no doubt we should come out …. It’s a pointless delay."
By:
edy
When: 06 Sep 19 14:23
Will he sell his body to Merkel?
By:
Angoose
When: 06 Sep 19 14:26
That'll be the idea, he'll offer to donate his sperm to the German gene pool Shocked
By:
edy
When: 06 Sep 19 14:34
That's one part of the problem solved. What will he do to accommodate the other 26 leaders?
By:
n88uk
When: 06 Sep 19 14:49
December surely should be coming in now, they're saying they will back an election after 17-18 October presuming Boris gets an extension. #1 Shenanigans from Johnson can't be ruled out delaying them backing an election. #2 On traditional time scale it takes you into December, I had heard a few days ago they are targeting 17-21st November but not heard anything on precise date since then.
By:
politicspunter
When: 06 Sep 19 14:51

Sep 6, 2019 -- 2:49PM, n88uk wrote:


December surely should be coming in now, they're saying they will back an election after 17-18 October presuming Boris gets an extension. #1 Shenanigans from Johnson can't be ruled out delaying them backing an election. #2 On traditional time scale it takes you into December, I had heard a few days ago they are targeting 17-21st November but not heard anything on precise date since then.


Sure enough, December in to 3.25.

By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 06 Sep 19 15:10
a fall in opinion polls would see the offer of an election withdrawn...
By:
Angoose
When: 06 Sep 19 15:23

Sep 6, 2019 -- 2:34PM, edy wrote:


That's one part of the problem solved. What will he do to accommodate the other 26 leaders?


Sloppy seconds Confused

By:
politicspunter
When: 06 Sep 19 21:23
Latest prices..

Oct- 10.0
Nov- 2.08
Dec- 3.65
2020 or later- 7.0

Who knows where we will be tomorrow.
By:
jollyswagman
When: 06 Sep 19 21:38
bozo might declare himself eternal leader and do away with elections Shocked
By:
jollyswagman
When: 06 Sep 19 21:38
not sure if betfair will void the market if he does
By:
Angoose
When: 06 Sep 19 21:41
Boris to appoint Kim Jong-un as his Foreign Minister Scared
By:
sofiakenny
When: 06 Sep 19 21:51
Will resign and turn to his first love..music..Will form thrash metal band with dave and jacob called Eton mess.
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