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their own website says they employ 140,000 people across the globe (US plus 65 other countries).
my guess is this 40,000 (no link yet but i'm sure it's coming) is a total assumed figure from some sort of investment which will have tertiary economic benefits for whichever region the investment is made in. I don't believe they will be increasing their UK workforce from 2,200 to 40,000 or moving jobs here from other locations as 40,000 would represent about 30% of their global workforce from the current 1.5% in the UK. The claim of 40,000 Boeing jobs doesn't stack up. |
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Don't worry lads. I'm sure aka will be along any second to point out the facts.
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The facts are Britain no longer builds a complete aircraft and America does
There is no reason why we should not build our own aircraft for different markets we did so until perhaps the last 20 or so years |
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The practice of building an aircraft over 4 or more different countries is a nonsense in many ways
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of course components and engine parts and indeed the engine itself can be brought on site from elsewhere
but the aircraft body and wings a structure and wiring and systems etc should be in one country its safer |
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everything can and should be done in house, including initial flights by test pilots
the company employs their own |
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preferably British
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Of course we already have rolls Royce for aircraft engines so that's no problem
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40,000 is a lot of jobs for a country that we are not in the EU with, that’s very good
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Boeing are not creating £40,000 new jobs in the UK. They're investing £40m.
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Interesting that as of yesterday some still haven't worked out that the Airbus "threat" is a load of bllx. They won't be making wings in China anytime soon.
We should welcome any investment by Boeing however many jobs it might create. Any ideas why they are not investing that money in China instead? |
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If we factor in other American aircraft companies as well as Boeing that will be a few thousand more I imagine
America really is the country , it’s so easy to do business with |
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so is the story that Boeing is investing £40m in the UK?
That's still a positive, but for context their annual revenues in 2017 were $94b and a 737 (one of their mid-range commercial workhorses) costs $70m depending on the model. If the £40m investment is true (still no link) it's not a boost to the economy in any real sense GDP being 2.5 trillion dollars. So in response to "why I didn't mention boeing for balance" on a thread about the impending problems for Airbus (and their supply chain) and our economy. I didn't mention Boeing because there was nothing to mention. Still interested in the link to the 40k Boeing jobs though - would be good news. |
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Wasn't there a link in one of my posts that were removed?
I can't be bothered supplying links if you keep having them removed. |
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please post a link; I haven't seen one and have no interest (or means) of "having a post removed".
ironic that akabula's initial interjection was to accuse me of misleading people, while simultaneously claiming Boeing were creating 40,000 new jobs in the UK (and not providing anything to back up his claim). |
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just shows that for some Brexit is a religion and it's entirely positive for them. nothing can be acknowledged if it doesn't fit the preconceived notion they've already fixed on.
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if you "cannot find the link any more" just post where the jobs will be?
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I'm going to email Boeing through their website.
I'll report back. |
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/marisagarcia/2018/06/25/can-40-million-boeing-band-aid-cover-airbus-no-deal-brexit-warning/#66b233a022d9
I found this on forbes - references a $50million boeing investment. Was this it? Article also states: a study by Oxford Economics valued Airbus’ contributions to the UK economy in 2015 at 7.8 billion pounds towards GDP, 117,400 jobs, and 1.7 billion in tax revenues. Not good news if Airbus leaves  |
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that's a $10 billion airbus loss versus a $50 million boeing gain.
again - for the sake of clarity - they are two very different numbers. Let's hope they stay and it's just Project Fear. |
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$1.7b in tex revenues is a lot.
That's almost two DUP bribes.  |
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Around 13% of our net annual contribution to the EU.
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I know! That's the loss of only one company. Scary.
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Don't worry, they are not going anywhere.
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that's great news - thanks!
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BRITAIN has won a £20billion contract to build nine top warships for Australia after Brexit.
In a huge boost for Britain ahead of our EU exit, UK defence giant BAE Systems has seen off rival bids from Spain and Italy to win a major contract to build frigates for the Australian navy. GET IN !    Fookin’ cheating Aussies don’t ya just love em |
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Brian ? Brian ? Wherefore art thou ? He’s on a mission to reform D:ream ? Oh $hit
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You should be more cautious lfc. You may get what you wish for.
If we don't have the immigrants, then there will be no one to empty the bedpans and tuck us in when we all head off to the Betfair Twilight Care Home (quite soon in your case, I suspect) |
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nonsense Rydal , I am a little worn out but I am not old , not in the least
certainly not 80 and will hopefully have made my escape from Britain long before that ... of course the problems are happening now with millions of immigrants now didn’t you notice ? |
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44649959
Good news for BAE. As the ships will be built in Australia it's also good news for the Aussie economy, and a big shot in the arm for our Brexit worries. This proves we'll be able to build stuff in Australia post-Brexit, so no need to worry about supply chain disruption... or something. |
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I might go to Australia if it’s any better than Britain
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very good news nevertheless for BAE and Britain . That is simply trade , non of the nonsense required to worry about such as freedom of movement or Irish borders , take note the EU and Ireland and other backward countries
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UK manufacturing is in the toilet - nobody is spending anything and they're all sh1tting themselves.
Nissan - demand for parts down 40% Rolls royce VW - UK CFO says they've an integrated dealer and parts network in Ireland which needs sorting but there's a £800m hole in the budget because sales are down and the pound is down 20% all supply chains - specialist manufacturers - on the brink logistics even worse. across the board they say they re not being listened to. Auto in the UK will just vanish in the event there's no deal (to achieve a BINO). you lot probably wont stop dismissing it as project fear even after it's happened! |
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lfc
I don't think they will let you into Australia. They are getting worried that too many immigrants are coming in and using resources. From todays news: "Bob Carr, former Foreign Minister, who in 2000 famously declared that “Sydney was full”, has warned that Australia must curb its population intake if it wishes to preserve its natural landmarks. In his new memoir, Run For Your Life, he offers this bleak hypothetical for Sydney’s future: “In the late 2020s towers overflowed from regional centres such as Parramatta and Penrith and filled in the land between." So you are going to be trapped and stuck with the Betfair Twilight Care Home, after all. Hopefully, there will be a pleasant Rumanian lass who will give you a hand with your catheter drainage bag..... |
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fair enough rydal that’s seems fair enough if they don’t want me I don’t want them : )
it can be easier to die amongst strangers |
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* : (
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We all get old, Rydal, and it arrives sooner than you think. This type of schadenfreude is a double edged sword.
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Foinavon
My first ever bet was on ESB (I had a good bet on The Fossa in your GN), so I do realise that I am a candidate too. My mother-in-law is in care - 96, blind, and has had a stroke which leaves her marbles intact but her mobility limited. She is desperately grateful to the Philipinos and East Europeans who (along with some wonderful Brits as well) provide her with care, and doesn't want to lose them. We need younger people and don't breed them ourselves. Just saying think about what will happen if we f*ck this up..... |
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People will always come to where there are better paid jobs. All the young Asians of every nationality, West Indians and Africans you find in nursing and caring aren't here because of the EU free movement policy.
I live in a city which is fast becoming a "Majority minority city" and all my young neighbours seem to be having no trouble breeding. Three or more seems to be the norm. |
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The answer is simple, nursing and social care should be the same thing as part of the NHS , paid for by taxation
Not by importing thousands and thousands of immigrants and cheap labour which ultimately drives costs up |