Feb 13, 2017 -- 9:11PM, Meadow X1 wrote:

I agree but how to verify that figure? Those postal votes ( I estimate around 25% of total votes) will be predominately elderly former pottery workers and the like who have voted Labour all their life.

Well parties will have representatives there when postal votes come in to make sure there is no shenanigans. Bush is very close to Lab figures, so he could have got it quite easily.

Although if I was a Lab politician trying to suggest a vote for UKIP is a wasted vote, I'd be telling Bush that.

I'd say at an estimate if 6000 votes have already been received that 70-80% of them will be Labour? We know UKIP will win the count on the day, but I can't see them overcoming that big of a deficit.

Feb 13, 2017 -- 9:23PM, InsiderTrader wrote:

Extremely worrying that there has been such a rise in postal voting since Labour changed the laws in 2000. Combine that with no ID required to vote and the system is somewhat concerning.

In fairness since the Pickles report on electoral fraud the Gov. are changing this. Not as quickly and not to the extent that I'd like.

Of course Labour are kicking up a stink that there are going to be extra procedures against electoral fraud. Some chutzpah.

Feb 13, 2017 -- 10:08PM, donny osmond wrote:

every ballot paper is numbered and number is marked against voters name

So why does this mean it isn't a secret ballot?

Who has access to this information?

Feb 13, 2017 -- 10:32PM, donny osmond wrote:

i'm still game for some bets on constituencies before candidates are announced if you wanthey hododge that too ?

Give me odds if you like. If they are decent I'll take them.

Judging by your previous form you'll refuse to give odds then accuse me of all sorts.

Feb 13, 2017 -- 11:43PM, donny osmond wrote:

do you even vote ?perhaps you only voted in european elections ?true intent of them comments ?keep digging

Well if you don't vote then there's a chance you wouldn't know that you voted for a candidate in the UK rather than a party. If you do vote you couldn't fail to see that you cross the box of the candidate of your choice.

The European elections are based on party voting, hence why I starred above. So if you'd only voted in a European election and not a constituency election you could have been confused as to how elections in the UK are run.

I'm guessing by the reaction that you think those questions are abusive is that you don't vote and this is where your confusion arrives from.

Feb 14, 2017 -- 12:00AM, donny osmond wrote:

as i've already told you the party name is next to the candidates name on ballot paperand that ballot papers are numbered and numbers are allocated to voteri think you are just being abusiveobviously you know you are wrong and are just trying to twist againkeep digging

Apart from when the candidate doesn't have a party? Which party came second in the Richmond by-election?

I notice you didn't answer whether you vote and then suggested I was being abusive for asking. I think this tells a lot of the story.

If we add that you don't know about there being a secret ballot and don't seem to understand the concept of voting for candidates the evidence is mounting that you probably don't vote.

Which is your choice, but it leaves you at a massive disadvantage when discussing politics. Especially when others are discussing by-elections which wouldn't even be happening if elections worked as you claim they do.

You can keep claiming I'm wrong over any number of threads when you don't understand something. It doesn't help your cause.

Feb 14, 2017 -- 12:23AM, donny osmond wrote:

you ask questions that have nothing to do with anythingin a purile pursuit of getting a reply to allow you can go off onanother tangent as you are wrong on the topicyou are wrong, and every step away from topic is just diggingcarry on

You mean I ask questions which you can't answer because they show up your ignorance on the subject. Well, yes, that's kind of the point of me asking them. It should make you think and then realise that you cannot be right, it seems it doesn't make a difference and on we go.

Ignoring everything and just shouting 'wrong', 'digging' or 'twisting' when you clearly don't understand the subject may look like a good strategy, but it really isn't. You are just wasting your own time and making everybody pity how ignorant your persona on this forum is.

Do some basic research on the subject you are talking about.