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Insider, Ukip have (or had) one policy unless you count the leaders enthusiasm for privatising the NHS. That policy is effectively fulfilled. Why vote for them now?
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Getting out of the EU is part of it. But there is also the issue of the rest of the world where rates stand at 300k a year.
The Tories have not stopped that aspect. They need to be carefully watched over Brexit and over the non-EU situation. Those in control of Labour at the moment are international socialists rather than national socialists who put their own people first. If you fundamentally believe that everyone in the world should have the same opportunities and rights to be in the west/UK that is a very admirable position if you personally are willing to pay for it. The problem is it will have to lower the overall standards of living of people in the richer countries. Services will have to have fall to spread the wealth more thinly. This is the choice we face. Does the west want to remain richer and have more of the worlds' resources than the rest of the world or are we will to share? When it comes to the vote people are showing they are increasing unwilling to share hence the rise of Trump, Brexit, Le Pen the Dutch guy etc. |
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Getting out of the EU was the sole policy of UKIP. That has been achieved. As a party there is no need to vote for them. Effectively they have campaigned to put themselves out of a job and move on to become radio hosts or similar. |
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We are still in the EU. If Labour, the Libdems and the SNP have their way we will remain in the Single market with open borders. Still alot of work to be done to make sure it happens. Also have to make sure we dont sign up for any other secret TTIP type deals that give powers to multinational companies and unelected bureaucrats.
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i think the tories are doing the negotiations so its them you
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i cant see the tories doing deals to satisfy multinational companies
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odds on nuttall rise further after a slander campaign by mainstream media , whos bying it tho?
if ukip cant win this seat they cant win anything , im doubling down on backing nuttal to win , if stoke are 70% brexit then labour are surely done for as they are the anti brexit party. |
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i doubt the smear campaign against nuttall resonates with anyone outside the MSM and westminster bubble. shows how desperate labour have become though
would more concerned about UKIP's ability to get their vote out. the main parties still seem much better organised and of course postal votes makes it much harder for insurgent parties |
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ukips plot of getting bliar on the stump shouting about brexit must be worth a few
votes againt the unfair media campaign highliting nuttalls lies how all this fake news pans out is a known unknown ! |
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Well the odds on Nutty continue to drift, fake news not helping but also the Hillsborough gaff was not just shooting himself in the foot, it blew both his friggin legs off. That said and as Brexit and Trump proved, nothing is ever a done deal in politics nowadays, with 3.25 starting to look very tasty.
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PM May in Stoke
Shirley not |
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tory price has dipped a little
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still falling
ukip drifting |
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Sure enough, Theresa May is in Stoke today. Now I wonder why that would be? Has the UKIP vote collapsed so much that the Tories think they may pick up their votes and win the seat? Hmm, unlikely. Could it be that the Tories think they may come a good second and finish off UKIP completely? Possibly, as she will want Labour to win the seat in order for Corbyn to remain leader.
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win win meadow
and mitigate her poor effort in copeland too ? |
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Copeland is a real toughie to call. I have no idea which way it's going to go apart from it could be really close. I do think the prices are wrong in that seat.
Come to think of it, the Tories are now 7/1 in places to win Stoke. That's a crazy price. |
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Make that 6/1 Conservatives in Stoke.
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somebody must have a poll
or a bookie inspired plunge ? |
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tories 11/1 on here
1.54 lab 3.75 ukip 60 ibs |
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libs , not the irritable bowelers
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In Copeland
tories 4-11 Labour 11-5 This could be close Labour backed a little last few days |
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Tory Stoke price contracting via Mother Theresa visit.
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1.39 con
3.8 lab in cope on here |
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I am on Labour fairly heavy (though not nearly as much as Stoke) at prices ranging from 3.0 to 4.3 in Copeland. I haven't decided whether to lay off yet.
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Can't help thinking the Merseyside outrage factor is being overplayed by the market, seems to me that the good folk of Stoke will be rather more pragmatic about it and not turn away from Nutty in quite the numbers that seem to be confidently anticipated.
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Remember, for to have a chance of winning this seat UKIP will have to increase their share of the vote by over 50%.
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a big surprise does not equate to an 11/4 shot
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A pleasing thread.
Much to savour. |
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no it doesnt, a big surprise is a big surprise
an 11/4 shot winning is not a big surprise |
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3.6 UKIP?
I'm in. |
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Rumour control says something new on way regarding Nuttall and Hillsborough.
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Oh oh
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Shitfer!
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Labour price now 1.5. Story going about that with postal votes Labour have this in the bag and resources now being focused on Copeland.
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Real shame postal votes might decide this given the integrity problems they have.
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How many votes of a difference could postal votes make do you feel?
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