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donny osmond When: 14 Feb 17 13:01

cj still wrong, still twisting, still digging

still asking silly questions

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Meadow X1 When: 14 Feb 17 15:04

Feb 14, 2017 -- 12:16PM, InsiderTrader wrote:

Meadow X114 Feb 17 10:35Joined: 07 Mar 05| Topic/replies: 1,780 | Blogger: Meadow X1's blogSo are you saying that folks within the postal voting address fill in the postal vote form to their choice, not the intended recipient?..Read the article I linked to for more details on the scam.

That article is five years out of date and specifically deals with Asian families in three towns.

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Meadow X1 When: 14 Feb 17 15:59

Somehow I find the idea that badminton playing daughters with postal votes crammed fifteen at a time into a flat are able to influence the balance of power at Westminster slightly unconvincing.
Next akabula and lfc will be on saying catholics in Coatbridge are living thirty to a bedsit, force feeding their offspring porridge and haggis then forcing them to vote SNP.

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InsiderTrader When: 14 Feb 17 17:20

Meadow X1,

Less than two years ago:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11560017/Postal-voting-fraud-is-easy-electoral-commissioner-says.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2578776/Scrap-postal-votes-elections-fixed-says-judge-warns-ballot-rigging-probability-parts-Britain.html

Last year:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/664022/Ukip-postal-voting-fraud-Paul-Nuttall-EU-referendum

Government report:

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/sir-eric-pickles-publishes-report-into-tackling-electoral-fraud

....

Are you not concerned at all about the harvesting of postal votes by leftist globalist forces?

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Meadow X1 When: 14 Feb 17 17:40

Is this stuff in the express/daily mail etc not out of date since the Pickles report?

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CJ70 When: 14 Feb 17 18:12

Feb 14, 2017 -- 1:01PM, donny osmond wrote:

cj still wrong, still twisting, still diggingstill asking silly questions

Still asking questions that you can't answer without revealing that you are wrong you mean?

As I keep saying do a bit of research on the subject before you start speaking about, otherwise all you do is show yourself up.

Evidenced by this thread where the overriding theme has turned into you being a non-voter.

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donny osmond When: 14 Feb 17 18:14

can we get a bet on that too ?

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CJ70 When: 14 Feb 17 18:14

Feb 14, 2017 -- 5:40PM, Meadow X1 wrote:

Is this stuff in the express/daily mail etc not out of date since the Pickles report?

No, because the Pickles report has yet to be brought into law.

When it does I don't think it goes far enough.

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CJ70 When: 14 Feb 17 18:16

Feb 14, 2017 -- 6:14PM, donny osmond wrote:

can we get a bet on that too ?

Sure. I'll give you a bet on anything if I think it's to my advantage.

As you don't understand how elections work, feel free to pitch.

I won't hold my breath as in the other thread the combined efforts of yourself, unitedbiscuits and Wurzel were unable to come up with a bet.

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donny osmond When: 14 Feb 17 18:19

ah conditional bets

thats why you are running away

fair enough

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CJ70 When: 14 Feb 17 18:29

Feb 14, 2017 -- 6:19PM, donny osmond wrote:

ah conditional betsthats why you are running awayfair enough

1) You are on a betting forum
2) You offer a bet
3) It's accepted and you run away.

Why do you even bother?

I know you don't do betting, but have a really long think about why someone would ask you to frame a bet before taking it.

Don't look up when thinking whatever you do.

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donny osmond When: 14 Feb 17 18:32

lol

you offered some alternative not me

you said your statement was too ambiguous to bet on

hey ho round and round we go

and more silly abuse when you simply need look at
what you are saying , you seem quite good at abuse
and very poor at comprehension and logic

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CJ70 When: 14 Feb 17 18:40

Feb 14, 2017 -- 6:32PM, donny osmond wrote:

lolyou offered some alternative not meyou said your statement was too ambiguous to bet onhey ho round and round we goand more silly abuse when you simply need look atwhat you are saying , you seem quite good at abuseand very poor at comprehension and logic

You won't be able to quote any abuse because there wasn't any. Do try your hardest though, it's always a good show.

For the hard of thinking.

1) I made a statement that is no way ambiguous
2) Yourself and biscuits wanted to bet on it. Wurzel joined in later to hang himself.
3) I asked you to define it
4) You ran away because you didn't understand the basic laws of betting

Which bit of that comprehension and logic don't you understand?

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donny osmond When: 14 Feb 17 18:45

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InsiderTrader When: 14 Feb 17 18:57

Meadow X1
14 Feb 17 17:40
Joined: 07 Mar 05
| Topic/replies: 1,784 | Blogger: Meadow X1's blog
Is this stuff in the express/daily mail etc not out of date since the Pickles report?

...

Nothing has changed yet. Also if you read the report about the problems of postal voting and then the lack of solutions you will see the issue.

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treetop When: 14 Feb 17 22:23

Those postal votes ( I estimate around 25% of total votes) will be predominately elderly former pottery workers and the like who have voted Labour all their life.

This has to be naive,I have witnessed a few counts in my strong Labour constituency, there were box after box of 100% votes for Labour candidates.The pattern was for the wardens of retirement homes (all Labour party members to get the jobs in the first place)to complete the ballot papers on behalf of the residents. Most of the residents had little say in the voting actions.
Others were often block votes on behalf of the local ethnic groups who took direction from their local mosques about who was favourable to their views.Less corrupt but not fully independent.
If those postal votes have not been monitored closely they could easily be the difference between defeat and victory.I will never be convinced that postal voting does not lead to block voting fraud.

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Meadow X1 When: 14 Feb 17 22:41

Treetop,

Are you saying you were able to monitor each postal vote and say where it had come from?

I find it extraordinary that you also claim to know that retirement home wardens only got the job if they supported the Labour party.

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CJ70 When: 14 Feb 17 22:47

Feb 14, 2017 -- 10:41PM, Meadow X1 wrote:

Treetop,Are you saying you were able to monitor each postal vote and say where it had come from? I find it extraordinary that you also claim to know that retirement home wardens only got the job if they supported the Labour party.

Not a far suggestion.

If the retirement home is funded by the council, then it would be very hard to get a job there if you weren't with the local Labour party. That's the way local councils works down here.

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Meadow X1 When: 14 Feb 17 22:56

So you are saying that all councils and retirement homes are run by the Labour party (down here which I assume you mean outside Scotland) ?

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CJ70 When: 14 Feb 17 23:05

Feb 14, 2017 -- 10:56PM, Meadow X1 wrote:

So you are saying that all councils and retirement homes are run by the Labour party (down here which I assume you mean outside Scotland) ?

I'm talking local(Wales), the way jobs in the council work here is based on the local union/Labour party. That's the way council jobs work here.

I've watched electoral fraud take place and reported it to the electoral commission, nothing has come of it.

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Meadow X1 When: 14 Feb 17 23:08

You can't seriously be suggesting that you must be a member of the Labour party to get a job with your local council?

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CJ70 When: 14 Feb 17 23:11

Feb 14, 2017 -- 11:08PM, Meadow X1 wrote:

You can't seriously be suggesting that you must be a member of the Labour party to get a job with your local council?

I'm not suggesting you have to, but if you are you have a lot better chance than if you aren't.

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Meadow X1 When: 14 Feb 17 23:16

So when you are applying for a council job do you put on the application form that you are a member of the Labour party?

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CJ70 When: 14 Feb 17 23:17

Feb 14, 2017 -- 11:16PM, Meadow X1 wrote:

So when you are applying for a council job do you put on the application form that you are a member of the Labour party?

Application forms ask if you are a member of any organisation/union.

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Meadow X1 When: 14 Feb 17 23:18

So if you put the Labour party that helps you get the job?

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CJ70 When: 14 Feb 17 23:19

Feb 14, 2017 -- 11:18PM, Meadow X1 wrote:

So if you put the Labour party that helps you get the job?

Some would say the only way you get filtered.

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treetop When: 15 Feb 17 21:13

Meadow,I believe you must be naive if you do not understand how it works,nothing is written down but council jobs often get " alloted to favourable applicants " as the chair of the interview panel directs matters. We complained to the electoral commission but the subsequent enquiry avoided any allocation of responsibility.When the deputy leader fell out with the leader afterwards this was mentioned but the council spent £250k on legal fees chasing the blogger who released the information which we suspected anyway.This "rumour" has stopped the great leader from being able to stand as an MP for a decade as the national media would use it to effect.

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Dotchinite When: 16 Feb 17 12:30

Labour will win with an increased majority after the way UKIP have messed this up combined with the hatchet job the media have done on Nuttall.

Its a big opportunity missed for UKIP but it doesnt alter the big picture. UKIP remain the likely home for the disaffected working classes who have no time for Corbyn and his boss McDonnell and their mass immigration views.

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Meadow X1 When: 16 Feb 17 12:55

Labour will win this but with so much dirt being flung it's hard to say by how far. However, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if UKIPs share of the vote goes down.

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Dotchinite When: 16 Feb 17 13:07

Id think thats highly likely. Of course one victory for Corbyn is bad news for Labour as it decreases the odds of them
replacing him with someone electable.

Wait til next Friday and you will have Abbot and Costello on the television telling you Corbyn is on course to be PM.

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Meadow X1 When: 16 Feb 17 13:17

Feb 14, 2017 -- 10:23PM, treetop wrote:

Those postal votes ( I estimate around 25% of total votes) will be predominately elderly former pottery workers and the like who have voted Labour all their life. This has to be naive,I have witnessed a few counts in my strong Labour constituency, there were box after box of 100% votes for Labour candidates.The pattern was for the wardens of retirement homes (all Labour party members to get the jobs in the first place)to complete the ballot papers on behalf of the residents. Most of the residents had little say in the voting actions.Others were often block votes on behalf of the local ethnic groups who took direction from their local mosques about who was favourable to their views.Less corrupt but not fully independent.If those postal votes have not been monitored closely they could easily be the difference between defeat and victory.I will never be convinced that postal voting does not lead to block voting fraud.

I would have thought it naive for someone to post on a website that he had personally examined postal votes and was able to say who they belonged to, who they voted for, who filled them in and how the person filling them in had to belong to a particular political party.

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Captain Wurzel When: 16 Feb 17 13:26

Labour need to get real - if they want any chance in the next general election Corbyn has got to go ASAP and take Abbot and McDonnell with him.

The country needs an effective opposition to the government and Corbyn isn't coming close to providing that let alone having a prospect of winning

a GE. I hoped Labour might lose to UKIP in order to hasten Corbyn's end but it looks like the comical Nuttall has made a right balls up of the campaign.

Why was the stupid prat prancing around Stoke in his Glorious 12th clothing ?

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Meadow X1 When: 16 Feb 17 13:35

UKIP and Nuttalls strategy in this by election will be used as a template on how not to run any future campaign.

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Captain Wurzel When: 16 Feb 17 13:57

Outside of Farage UKIP seems to be entirely devoid of any talent.

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iamhewho When: 16 Feb 17 14:46

Feb 16, 2017 -- 1:35PM, Meadow X1 wrote:

UKIP and Nuttalls strategy in this by election will be used as a template on how not to run any future campaign.

bit concerned by nutalls lack of damage control here , have traded some of my investment off for profit , will keep close eye on it in coming days, still think Gareth Snell is a giant gimp exactly the type of politician people are sick off but...

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Meadow X1 When: 16 Feb 17 17:48

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/paul-nuttall-ukip-hustings-stoke-patrick-flynn-hillsborough-controversy-by-election-a7583386.html

No show from Nuttall at hustings.

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InsiderTrader When: 16 Feb 17 18:36

If the voters were choosing on policy they would clearly pick UKIP as 70% voted to stop immigration and labour wants open borders.

Real shame UKIP been taken apart by the media and they lack any kind of leadership. If UKIP get any votes after what happened this campaign it will show how weak labour is.

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Meadow X1 When: 16 Feb 17 18:43

Feb 16, 2017 -- 6:36PM, InsiderTrader wrote:

If the voters were choosing on policy they would clearly pick UKIP as 70% voted to stop immigration and labour wants open borders. Real shame UKIP been taken apart by the media and they lack any kind of leadership. If UKIP get any votes after what happened this campaign it will show how weak labour is.

Desperation.

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anxious When: 16 Feb 17 19:02

Indeed truly desperate stuff from IT, the far right nationalists heading for a good hiding in Stoke and it couldn't happen to a nicer man than Nutall

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InsiderTrader When: 16 Feb 17 20:07

anxious,

Do you regard anyone who does not what open borders a 'far right nationalist'?