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First they laugh at his clothes. Then they send people to look through his letter box.
If Labour had better policies on helping the forgotten people of much of northern England they would not need to use these type of tactics. |
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The Forgotten people IT , same old song as trump do you really believe Nutall and his mob are interested in these people they merely use them as a road to power
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They cannot do any worse than the Tories or Labour.
May said she would bring immigration down to the tens of thousands and failed on the non-EU side that could be controlled. Labour support open borders. |
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Nuttall did not. He registered an empty property within the constituency as his home address in order to have that address on the ballot paper and hence gain a possible advantage.
Properties generally are empty when they are rented as unfurnished Meadow. The contract was signed and Nuttall intended on moving in which is what he has done. No rules are rigid enough to decide whether this was his home or not. Your home is your home from moment of purchase/contract. How can anyone decide whether he intended to live there or not? |
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How can anyone decide whether he intended to live there or not?
I will answer my own question here. He has moved in to the property, so the intention was to move into this new address. As CJ has mentioned, it is common practice and Labour should not be throwing stones in glass houses. Anyway, nothing to see. |
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You clearly don't understand Electoral Commission rules.
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Meadow how do you price up him being kicked out of the election?
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Meadow
This is the crux of your link from the EC. 2.14 On this form you must state your home address in full. Nuttall put down his new home address. Nothing to see. |
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0%. It won't help his cause though. If he wins and another party complain it could go to court and a possible rerun of the election.
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Do you have another link that goes into finer detail of what the EC will accept as a 'home address'?
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What polls in this area CJ?
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in those circumstances UKIP would win a 2nd election by a landslide
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CJ
Can you give any further insight into Labour MP's who done the same as Nuttall, in putting their new address down on the EC application? Thanks in advance. |
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Jacqui Smith registered her primary home as her sisters spare room,although not for election purposes it sufficed until the papers revealed that abuse.She was only a Home Secretary though,not a candidate ! Hypocrites.
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From the BBC tonight....
Police are investigating claims by the Labour Party that UKIP leader Paul Nuttall rented a house to mislead by-election voters about his home address. On Wednesday, Labour said Mr Nuttall, a candidate for Stoke-on-Trent Central MP, used a house he had yet to stay in as his address on nomination papers. Now political website Guido Fawkes has reported Mr Nuttall "spent the night on a mattress on the floor" of the house. UKIP said it was "entirely sanguine" all electoral law was "complied with". A UKIP spokesman confirmed the party's leader had now stayed overnight at the house, which Mr Nuttall was using as a base while campaigning, The spokesman added: "I am told that police are investigating. "They have not spoken to us and if and when they do, we will be perfectly happy to answer their questions." Labour claimed Mr Nuttall's use of an apparently empty house as his address raised serious questions about his fitness for public office. Speaking to Channel 4 News on Wednesday, Mr Nuttall said of the property: "It's not empty. People are in it now. I'll be in there and I'll be there for the rest of the campaign. "It's not a false declaration at all. People are in the process of moving us in." He later tweeted: "A candidate being attacked for being prepared to move to his constituency must be a first." The Electoral Commission's guidance for candidates and agents states home addresses "must be completed in full" and "must be your current home address" but "does not need to be in the constituency in which you intend to stand". Staffordshire Police said "considerable media interest" in an allegation relating to a candidate standing for the seat had prompted officers to begin an investigation. The by-election, following the resignation of Labour's Tristram Hunt, will be held on 23 February. |
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This fraud and imposter Nutall and his cohorts will be defeated in Stoke
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Police are investigating claims by the Labour Party that UKIP leader Paul Nuttall rented a house to mislead by-election voters about his home address.
Mislead voters? Is this another pompous attempt to suggest Leave voters are easily confused? I am sure that the electorate in Stoke realise Nuttall is new to the Stoke constituency and has only moved since he cast his hat into the ring. 'A candidate being attacked for being prepared to move to his constituency must be a first ...' |
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Labour are on course to be the first opposition party to lose a seat in a by-election in 35 years in the upcoming Copeland fight, it has emerged.
According to their own canvass returns, Labour support has dropped by a third in the Cumbrian seat. Internal documents seen by the Daily Telegraph show dwindling support for Jeremy Corbyn is behind the drop. Support for Labour is believed to have dropped by a third since the 2015 general election. A senior Labour source said Mr Corbyn’s “incompetence” as a party leader was repeatedly coming up as a concern for voters on the doorstep. The returns suggest that the Tories will take Copeland – a seat held by Labour for 80 years – when voters pick their new MP next month. It would be the first time the Government has won a seat off the official opposition since the Tories took Mitcham and Morden, London, in 1982. https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/politics/news/82572/labour-set-lose-copeland-seat-according-internal-polling Labour set for DOUBLE HUMILIATION after poll hints it will LOSE Stoke and Copeland seats LABOUR is bracing itself for a double humiliation after the party’s private polling has suggested it is set to lose both its seats in Stoke and Copeland. The revelation means that Ukip leader Paul Nuttall appears to be on the verge of making an historic breakthrough in a Labour heartland seat of Stoke Central. Mr Nuttall’s hope in Stoke - dubbed the capital of Brexit - have been boosted by a series of insults against Brexit supporters on Twitter by his Labour opponent Gareth Snell and revelations that his Tory opponent Jack Brereton campaigned for Remain. Meanwhile a series of offensive emails from Mr Snell, Labour’s Stoke Central candidate, on 22 June ahead of the historic vote suggested that almost 70 per cent of the constituents were “racist”, “inward looking” and “confused”. Mr Snell who described Brexit as “a pile of sh**” also Tweeted in December that for Leave supporters “the important part will be white Brexit” in an attempt to paint them as racists. Mr Nuttall told the Daily Express: “We are getting an excellent response on the doors. http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/761901/labour-lose-stoke-copeland-ukip-paul-nuttall-brexit-jeremy-corbyn  |
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The Torygraph there is a great friend of Labour dear me the powers that be are desperate to have the tory- ukip axis in power , the great white dope in Stoke man of the people I think not
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Democracy will trump all over your opinion anxious.
"great white hope' Did you get that one off Flabbot?  |
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*dope
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Lol, the Telegraph and the UKIP supporting Daily Express can be relied on to be completely unbiased in every way.
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Labour clutching at straws with this attack as they have nothing else to say on the big issues. They are a deeply divided party and offer nothing on immigration to the forgotten working class already here.
Like the Democrats in the USA they need to promote immigration to get votes in future elections by setting up a client state. The problem is by doing this they are losing their traditional voters. |
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the swing in nearby council election yesterday would be enough to give seat to ukip
not exact science of course but perhaps a decent snapshot |
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Meadow, this is not a criticism, but it's in that context does not require an apostrophe. Had its day. It's a long way to Tipperary.
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Ah ok. UKIP has had its day.
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I only mention it because a friend of mine who is a really good writer on politics insists on doing the same thing all the time - despite my constant reminders lol.
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meadow you are correct, it was indeed a first attempt by ukip at the seat
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That LD result is amazing.
Hard to extrapolate anything from the council by-elections as turnout is genuinely tardy. There is a strong pattern with the less publicity an election gets the worse UKIP do. In that sense Labour's attempt to get Nuttall all over the news on a technicality might well be against their interests. |
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Not sure where all you sneering liberal lefties live but let me tell you I live down the road from Stoke and there is plenty of support for UKIP in these parts
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In the sense that if it was a betting opportunity, LD's would be a big price given the demographic. Apparently that ward has quite a few civil servants even though it was 70/30 Leave/Remain. There's been a tremendous GOTV operation there to get that big a swing from a low base.
Is the UKIP vote any different to council by-elections in the last Parl.? I don't think so. I'd say the vast majority of Lab switchers in the wc north will be going to UKIP. |
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Sandhill (Sunderland) result:
LDEM: 45.0% (+41.5) LAB: 25.0% (-29.9) UKIP: 18.7% (-7.2) CON: 10.0% (-5.7) GRN: 1.3% (+1.3) Well look at this Sunderland result which is pretty far north (!). Same again, disgraced Labour councillor, Labour, UKIP and Conservative vote down and LibDem the beneficiary. The ex Labour voters switch to LibDem (as a protest probably) but they won't vote UKIP or Conservative. |
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i guess councils have no say over brexit. Just local jobsworths. How many actually bother to vote? I doubt many that came out to vote for brexit even knew the local elections were on.
The big question is whether in Stoke is UKIP can convince those left behind that voted for Brexit to come out and vote to keep the anti-brexit MPs honest on migration controls. |
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In by elections the major parties have a distinct advantage. They know the area well and can easily find a normally(!) good local candidate. They have a local party that know where their votes are and how to get them to the polling booth. However, the real biggie is postal votes and there they have a very clear advantage over independents and smaller parties like UKIP.
When the turnout is low, as in most by elections, these advantages multiply the chances of the established major party. |
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Well, without taking any side in this debate, can I just say again that I cannot even comprehend any rational individual voting for the current Labour front bench and its ability to be responsible for anything !
They are well aware themselves, I reckon, that they are a dis-organised , directionless bunch of disheartened souls. I've never known a Labour Party in such a chaotic mess. The kindest thing that true Labour supporters could do is to NOT vote Labour in the next few bye elections....thereby forcing the clear out of the present hierarchy...i.e.,Mr Corbyn,his henchwoman Ms Abott ,and his other loony disciples...... They may well believe in themselves.....but they are completely unelectable ! |