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By:
Dooberama
When: 05 Nov 09 12:45
when are you going to reply to my email I sent months ago regarding

1) The low minimum buy ins on cash tables (10% of the max is too low).
2) the short length of time before you allowed the same short stacker to sit at the same table with th eminimum stack again (half an hour is way too low)?
By:
tamoshanter
When: 05 Nov 09 15:28
+1

As stated earlier in the thread. Disappointed to not see anything in the above list regarding Cash Games. Everyone wants and needs Deep Tables and Min Buy-in 50bb + tables. Keep the standard tables there too - just let us have the option pleeeeeease
By:
MC Roller
When: 05 Nov 09 15:41
If there is a new guy in charge, I wish him good luck.

You have one hell of a shambles to clear up.
By:
Jim Hensen
When: 05 Nov 09 15:45
Bruces last day today by the look of it.

http://www.wf.net/~lcrump1/Guy2001.jpg
By:
Jim Hensen
When: 05 Nov 09 15:50
A specific response to all of Mavis's previous threads and emails seems to have been overlooked. Whilst not surprised, it still remains woeful from you.
By:
Mavis "Hacksaw" Handbag
When: 05 Nov 09 16:50
SOME MORE THREADS PACKED FULL OF SUGGESTIONS AND FEEDBACK FOR YOU

PLEASE READ:

http://site.forum.betfair.com/jive3/betex/ThreadsFrameset.jsp?forumID=22&forumName=Poker&threadID=1300155&tName=How+would+you+improve+Betfair+poker%3F&schatname=Mavis&iMessageCount=42


http://site.forum.betfair.com/jive3/betex/ThreadsFrameset.jsp?forumID=22&forumName=Poker&threadID=1298986&tName=POKER+SITE+FEEDBACK+THREAD&schatname=Mavis&iMessageCount=58


Whilst some of these 'old' issues may have been fixed, most STILL HAVEN'T and these threads contain loads of good suggestions about tournaments, leaderboards, promotions etc etc etc.
By:
Mavis "Hacksaw" Handbag
When: 05 Nov 09 16:53
jim they are going to reply next week to this thread, I did recieve replies from Bruce Stubbs before which I pasted on the forum with his permission... that was when I guessed his email address and mailed him the contents of a few threads.



HERE IS THE RESPONSE RECEIVED, AGAIN ANOTHER LINK TO A FORUM THREAD:

http://site.forum.betfair.com/jive3/betex/ThreadsFrameset.jsp?forumID=22&threadID=1302017

BETFAIR - contained in these links is very good info for you, they are most definitely worth reading.
By:
Mavis "Hacksaw" Handbag
When: 05 Nov 09 16:59
and finally, I have ttt'd some of the old threads that I could find (links above), so it's even easier for those at betfair towers to read all the previous suggestions.

if you look through old threads, there are probably 50-100 on the same subject however.
By:
Lisa Simpson
When: 05 Nov 09 17:01
Betfair Customer Services 05 Nov 12:01
We will be responding to your queries by the end of the next week.

We hope you appreciate that we cannot answer all of the questions

Why does it take over a week to answer just a few questions, bearing in mind it's been pretty obvious for a week already, the main areas of concern to customers?
If a client of mine came to me with a series of questions about my profession and how my work affects them, I feel I could answer 90+% of them immediately and get back to them within a day for the remainder.
The delay suggests we're in for a carefully written sop to the punters as opposed to simple straightforward answers to what are after all, pretty simple questions.
I do hope this attempt at "customer service" is not going to create even more bad feeling than you had to start with.
That's a hope - not an expectation.
By:
Calabaza
When: 05 Nov 09 18:21
BIG LOL

Betfair had one of these on 2p2 also a few moths ago.
Results after that ? 0000000

Relax..it will take them another 1-2 years to improve anything.

:)
By:
Jim Hensen
When: 05 Nov 09 18:42
to be fair, if, as alleged, Bruce has gone then a wind of change may prove good.

However if it does not involve moving software/skin AND a MASSIVE overhaul in staff knowledge/attitude then it will be nothing more than lip service and pi ssing in the wind.

I fail to see the software being tweaked to tempt people back, and the staff issue is underlying to all other faults.
By:
McCoy Carp
When: 05 Nov 09 19:19
If I have a last longest bet, why does a poker window have to open for this?
By:
BlufDaddy
When: 05 Nov 09 20:20
fedddddddd uppppppppp 05 Nov 13:34

Please change your old, outdated, discontinued, obsolete hardware RNG from the Comscire J1000KU to the new improved Comscire R2000KU

link below:

https://www55.ssldomain.com/comscire/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=C&Product_Code=R2K01&Category_Code=QWPRODUCTS

Basing your whole system on a discontinued RNG does nothing for confidence in your poker product.

Thankyou.


You do realise the only publicised difference between the old and new models is the output bandwidth?
By:
fedddddddd uppppppppp
When: 05 Nov 09 21:01
Yes more bandwidth... bit like dvd and blu-ray... more is good... always like the latest innovations + they must have implemented a few more tweaks/ improvements over the 5 years...

bit like cathode ray tube or lcd/plasma screen ...

I have no confidence in obsolete hardware... + if it ever breaks down Betfair are gonna have to change to the latest version anyway...
By:
BlufDaddy
When: 05 Nov 09 21:57
Not quite sure where to start with this.

1. More bandwidth does not equate to better quality. Of all the subsystems comprising the poker back-end, the hardware RNG probably has amongst the lowest LAG.

2. Blu-ray is superior to DVD because it supports MPEG4, which achieves better compression for the same image quality as MPEG2 ie it requires LESS bandwidth.

3. CRT actually gives a better quality display than most Plasmas and certainly LCDs.

4. Your statement that "they must have implemented a few more tweaks/ improvements over the 5 years" is unfounded. If you compare the key publicised stats between the boards ie bias and auto-correlation, they are unchanged. Other than in their choice of components, there's no basis for thinking the randomness of the output data has improved.
By:
Milners
When: 05 Nov 09 22:07
why have you changed the tournment schedule that nearly most games at rebuys tournments now? i've stopped playing these now.

Could we have a leaderboard for different skills like normal sit and go, turbo sit and go, and finally those that play super turbo as at current the leaderboard favours those that play super turbo - very unfair on us that doesn't like playing this?
By:
ForumTramps
When: 05 Nov 09 22:23
Can certain people stop asking betfair to team up with other sites. They will lose there independence. Simply invest in totally new software.
By:
Jim Hensen
When: 05 Nov 09 22:34
Not going to happen though is it?
By:
[x] These checkboxes suck
When: 05 Nov 09 23:14
hmm
By:
ForumTramps
When: 05 Nov 09 23:33
when you discuss the collusion can you perhaps talk about pr0p players? They in effect work for the house, surely they should not be allowed to join the same games. in the d2n games it is very unfair often you get house players going soft on eachother and teaming up. so perhaps ONE betfair house player per game max?
By:
jamesbeckton.
When: 05 Nov 09 23:46
I can't see much happening. Obviously Bruce Stubbs leaving if truwe would be a good thing as he was clearly useless beyond comprehension. He must've been acting on instructions from Betfair HQ, wsho seem to want to maximise revenue from all areas as shown by premium charge, arcade games etc. They are not poker people and presumably will not want to spend a lot of money creating new software, which could all be in vain.
By:
Dealem....
When: 06 Nov 09 00:08
nothing wrong with waiting a week for good answers.(not saying they are going to be)

agree about not joining a network.

plasma is not always better than LCD.

agree about buying new software, but buy established stuff not develop new stuff.

i doubt whether the effectiveness of an endorsed RNG is actually noticable to a player over his yearly number of hands.

i am bored...

ty.
By:
Mr Snap
When: 06 Nov 09 00:22
BETFAIR POKER Q&A - LET US KNOW WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND


Well there was this time couple of years back now at a small event in croydon, now I'm looking down at 99 and Dubai announces hes all in blind or he hes just blind or something, I dunno I was haf cut even by then

Anyway i digress, Dibble calls with poop and I dwell for what people seem to think was an eternity before calling and rocking like a flashmob champ should

anyway my question HOW LONG IS TOO LONG TO DWELL as some of them seemed peeved even before we hit the 90 minute mark per hand

Please help as this has been on my mind for years now :-)

oh and did i mention who won :-)
By:
ForumTramps
When: 06 Nov 09 05:50
Heya betfair! Right I know you guys are preparing answers to several questions. Obviously you will still be reading this thread. I have spent the last four hours going over one months worth of hand histories for D2N games. I find I finish on the bubble (4th) 2.6 times more when two pr0p players are involved. It is not because they are good players, seabreeze and a few others run at a loss.

If betfair wants players to come back you need to be more open. Certain players betfair PAY to start games. Can we please have assurances you will not pay more than one person per game. My stats clearly show when more than one paid player per game enters I get shafted. Betfair has new management now so learn from mistakes of your predecessors. I am sick of being **ed. Please don't say send details in as in the past I have sent conclusive evidence in of 100% **ing in D2N and the players were still playing after. If i can check hand histories for 30 D2N and see that two players who have played thirty games together and never ever knocked the other out nor called eachothers all in when in tournament life threatening situations and betfair say its fair its not on.

So in short betfair the people you pay to start games have natural tendencies to **, so if you really feel you need to pay people to start games can we please have a limit of ONE BETFAIR PAID PLAYER per game
By:
jakeburns69
When: 06 Nov 09 07:16
The limit tables are rife with collusion as I have pointed out to you but nothing is done about it.

I also have 1000's of hand histories against a player called capefear(you know him he writes articles for you) and I also have 1000s of hand histories against another south african player called direstr8.I do not have 1 hand history of them on the same table.

They appear on no leaderboards now so I assume they are on the 75% c ake deal you offer to limit props.In fact the obnoxious pr1ck has boasted in the chat box about his multi-accounting and colluding.

So why is there no consistency in your rules?The account does not breach your rules as it is the name of a different friend/family member.It took me 5 mins and google to find his blog with all this information on it yet your security team don't do anything.
By the way the blog has been removed now after I 'outed' him at the tables.
He should be banned anyway for being a member of the Marc Knopfler fan club.But can you confirm that it is ok to collude and multi-account as long as you bend the kyc rules and write articles for Betfair.Ty
By:
5LEEPWALKER
When: 06 Nov 09 09:16
A volume slider would be nice

And regards people moaning about me winning the leaderboards, Supposedly due to how the points are scored. They need to realise that I am THE GREATEST, I have won the leaderboard with all kinds of different points scoring systems. Including prizefighter which warned people that I may be one to avoid at the tables

Maybe you could get the betfair pro's to TRY for the leaderboard, At least then when I beat them people will stop using the excuse that I win due to how the points are scored

Looking forward to your reply

Much appreciated

5LEEPWALKER (THE GREATEST)
By:
5LEEPWALKER
When: 06 Nov 09 09:21
I also agree with an earlier post regards how the D2N's should automatically stop when the final 3 have made the payouts, Because It's wasting time when I could be using the space for another game
By:
5LEEPWALKER
When: 06 Nov 09 09:30
Oh, And it would be absolutly amazing if we could have online cam poker. Because it would be really funny to see peoples faces drop when I take there *****with 5 3 offsuit etc and hit the flush / fullhouse

I'm not expecting this straight away, But it would be nice to have in the near future
By:
temple
When: 06 Nov 09 11:27
Jake,

CapeFear = DireStr8 = ClubSoda


Thought this was common knowledge
By:
yessssssss
When: 06 Nov 09 11:59
Jake,
CapeFear = DireStr8 = ClubSoda
Thought this was common knowledge

Little do you know, i can vouch for clubsoda and can say that he is not either of the other players you have stated! HTH
By:
yessssssss
When: 06 Nov 09 12:04
The limit tables are rife with collusion as I have pointed out to you but nothing is done about it.

I also have 1000's of hand histories against a player called capefear(you know him he writes articles for you) and I also have 1000s of hand histories against another south african player called direstr8.I do not have 1 hand history of them on the same table.

So how is this collusion then? if they dont play on the same tables as each other how can you say its collusion!???
By:
jakeburns69
When: 06 Nov 09 12:09
Did I say that?

Think you can deduce quite easily what I was saying so don't twist my words out of context.
By:
yessssssss
When: 06 Nov 09 12:15
you know who i am jake, and i play limit nearly everyday and can tell you now that they are not colluding like you have stated!
By:
Ilovegreece
When: 06 Nov 09 12:15
jake, reveal yourself!
By:
temple
When: 06 Nov 09 12:19
Jake is lead singer with SLF.


HTH
By:
yessssssss
When: 06 Nov 09 12:21
temple just revealed himself, hi bots!
By:
jakeburns69
When: 06 Nov 09 12:22
If you read my post correctly all I have said is that the 2 players are the same.I have also said that collusion is rife in general.

Just to spell it out to you-I am not thick enough to state that 2 players who do not play on the same table collude because I do realise that it would be impossible!

Do I think capefear/direstr8 colludes with others-yes I do.Can I prove that-obviously not.

Do you think that above 2 players are the same?Or are you him?I do not know who you are.

And why are you and brasilnut suddenly posting on here together-do you know each other?
By:
jakeburns69
When: 06 Nov 09 12:30
Hello?No comment I see.Guess brasilnut would go quiet as he plays on 2 accounts as well.Call me a liar then....
By:
yessssssss
When: 06 Nov 09 12:30
jakeburns69 06 Nov 13:22
If you read my post correctly all I have said is that the 2 players are the same.I have also said that collusion is rife in general.
(how can you say they are the same person, theres about 20 regs from uk so does that mean there the same person, No!?)

Just to spell it out to you-I am not thick enough to state that 2 players who do not play on the same table collude because I do realise that it would be impossible!
(well you did state that so... and yes its impossible)

Do I think capefear/direstr8 colludes with others-yes I do.Can I prove that-obviously not.
(what would make you say that for? and to prove it, your right, is hard but from 1000000's of hands i have on them both proves nothing imo)

Do you think that above 2 players are the same?Or are you him?I do not know who you are.
(no im not him or neither do i know him! i stated who i was on my greek thread)

And why are you and brasilnut suddenly posting on here together-do you know each other?
(i only know brasil through playing poker on here)
By:
yessssssss
When: 06 Nov 09 12:31
jake you seem to know the ins and outs of everybody here but nobody else does? rather stange!
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