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Indeed Lisa I missed that.
In all seriousness to Betfair representative, why not instead of threads like this - why dont you take a look at the likes of *s and** and copy what they do - then come back and ask when you get the basics right. For a company who has taken 2 yrs+ to get the sat info correct in a text box i wont hold my breath.. |
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Hi i posted 2nd on this thread and before posting i had not seen the new look betfair poker with new schedule and tournies etc.At a glance it looks very good.I feel if i had seen it before posting i maybe would not have asked the question i did because its all changed now.Not had a good look yet but will get back to you if need be re Q&A.
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IF Betfair Poker was an animal, it would have been put out of it's misery ages ago. It's cruel to allow it to go on suffering with no hope of recovery.
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a yea ror so ago you used to run a $109 entry tourney at around 5.30pm with $1800 guarantee,
I am more of a day player but there are no reasonable size tourneys. I want more than just a sit n go |
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why are so many still playing on a site full of colluders? I don't get it...
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cos all the proper sites have caught & banned them. they can only operate on betfair now, knowing full-well bf wont do fk all about it.
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maybe I should just repeat my question......I still don't get it.
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oops. i misread ur question.
prolly cos they r the softest games on the net still? |
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Maybe you should upgrade to a big mac and then you might get it.
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in a small pool of players knowing your opponent is easier, (and hence table selection), until people account share and operate under new names, at which point regs get upset !
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1: Far too many Turbos/SuperTurbos (one of the best comps on here was the 5k Deepstack until you changed it to a super turbo)
2: Collusion. Sort it out, should be ashamd at the lack of action imo... take a leaf from Stars. |
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Unfriendly and unhelpful attitudes like IPYF's are one of the reasons I stopped feeling this was a place I'd want to be. The others were related to betfair's financial greed and technical ineptitude.
Given that so many folk complain so bitterly yet continue to play here, it sounds like the 'customers' still remaining have got exactly the level of service they deserve! So that's what's on MY mind......just thought I'd pop in to let you know! See ya. |
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So in summary
Cash games and sng are ripe with collusion sngs are all fast structures mtt are all fast structures or odd formats and sat lobby is poor these things will have little effect when trying to induce new players on a promo. I'm sure your stats on attracting new players per £ spent on promo is relatively good. Retaining custom is another matter and it seems that you have missed this by a country mile. In part due to the above and an abysmal customer service standard. the software is poor but not the main reason for the way things are, though you will never compete with the big boys with this software |
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wee mac, get a sense of humour mate. if you want hand histories try 2+2, if you want buddies to be overly nice with then perhaps try punterslounge. this place is just not like that, it is what it is.
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Has there been any answers yet?
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Wee Mac you sound like a great laugh on a night out
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Betfair it is 6am and the site is quiet, my friend sits on $10/20 6 handed with another player. Three canadians sit within THREE seconds of eachother (no exaggeration three seconds).
WHY DO YOU ALLOW BLATANT **ING ON YOUR CASH TABLES. DO NOT FKIN AVOID THIS BETFAIR, YOU MADE THIS THREAD. WE ARE ALL GETTING **ED AND YOU DO NOTHING ABOUT IT....WHY? |
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p.s. junksar sky lopez and m corleone, no way 3 canadians join within 3 seconds randomly
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I would like betfair to bring in the following game...I am sure their programmers will be able to program the code with ease...
maximum Six handed, with everyone dealt six cards after having one ante each... each player to discard one card before the flop... all players be able to see dicarded cards (but not by whom dicarded) thereafter the flop...everyone to discard one further card (12 discarded cards in total)..then the player from the SB (equivalent to texas) to be able to "purchase" any one of the discarded cards for 2 x ante, and the action moves clockwise until the dealer (equivalent to texas) has made his decision (each player knows which card if any has been "purchasded" by whom)... then further betting is allowed starting from the SB etc upto a maximum of 5xante (like limit poker maximum bet would be 5xante inclusive of raises and reraises etc)... then the turn card would be dealt and all players have to discard two cards each leaving each player with three cards (all discarded cards visible to every player- but not folded cards so as to help the colluders)... then a further round of betting is allowed upto a maximum of 10x ante as before... thereafter the river card is dealt and and a further round of betting upto 10xante is allowed... however before the showdown each player is allowed to take one card from the player sitting on his right starting with the SB...ie SB would take one card (randomly) from the three cards the Dealer has leaving dealer with two cards and SB with four cards..then the BB would take one random card from the original three of the SB and so on until the dealer has taken his card... On showdown the rules would be omaha i.e each player would have to use two cards from his hand to make the best five card poker hand... Good luck betfair... ps to the players...this is a good game for having some fun when playing live...try it! |
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I would like betfair to bring in the following game...I am sure their programmers will be able to program the code with ease...
maximum Six handed, with everyone dealt six cards after having one ante each... each player to discard one card before the flop... all players be able to see dicarded cards (but not by whom dicarded) thereafter the flop...everyone to discard one further card (12 discarded cards in total)..then the player from the SB (equivalent to texas) to be able to "purchase" any one of the discarded cards for 2 x ante, and the action moves clockwise until the dealer (equivalent to texas) has made his decision (each player knows which card if any has been "purchasded" by whom)... then further betting is allowed starting from the SB etc upto a maximum of 5xante (like limit poker maximum bet would be 5xante inclusive of raises and reraises etc)... then the turn card would be dealt and all players have to discard two cards each leaving each player with three cards (all discarded cards visible to every player- but not folded cards so as to help the colluders)... then a further round of betting is allowed upto a maximum of 10x ante as before... thereafter the river card is dealt and and a further round of betting upto 10xante is allowed... however before the showdown each player is allowed to take one card from the player sitting on his right starting with the SB...ie SB would take one card (randomly) from the three cards the Dealer has leaving dealer with two cards and SB with four cards..then the BB would take one random card from the original three of the SB and so on until the dealer has taken his card... On showdown the rules would be omaha i.e each player would have to use two cards from his hand to make the best five card poker hand... Good luck betfair... ps to the players...this is a good game for having some fun when playing live...try it! |
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poker player, do you think they should introduce 'snap' and 'chinese poker' too? :)
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I would like betfair to bring in the following game...I am sure their programmers will be able to program the code with ease...
maximum Six handed, with everyone dealt six cards after having one ante each... each player to discard one card before the flop... all players be able to see dicarded cards (but not by whom dicarded) thereafter the flop...everyone to discard one further card (12 discarded cards in total)..then the player from the SB (equivalent to texas) to be able to "purchase" any one of the discarded cards for 2 x ante, and the action moves clockwise until the dealer (equivalent to texas) has made his decision (each player knows which card if any has been "purchasded" by whom)... then further betting is allowed starting from the SB etc upto a maximum of 5xante (like limit poker maximum bet would be 5xante inclusive of raises and reraises etc)... then the turn card would be dealt and all players have to discard two cards each leaving each player with three cards (all discarded cards visible to every player- but not folded cards so as to help the colluders)... then a further round of betting is allowed upto a maximum of 10x ante as before... thereafter the river card is dealt and and a further round of betting upto 10xante is allowed... however before the showdown each player is allowed to take one card from the player sitting on his right starting with the SB...ie SB would take one card (randomly) from the three cards the Dealer has leaving dealer with two cards and SB with four cards..then the BB would take one random card from the original three of the SB and so on until the dealer has taken his card... On showdown the rules would be omaha i.e each player would have to use two cards from his hand to make the best five card poker hand... Good luck betfair... ps to the players...this is a good game for having some fun when playing live...try it! |
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I would like betfair to bring in the following game...I am sure their programmers will be able to program the code with ease...
maximum Six handed, with everyone dealt six cards after having one ante each... each player to discard one card before the flop... all players be able to see dicarded cards (but not by whom dicarded) thereafter the flop...everyone to discard one further card (12 discarded cards in total)..then the player from the SB (equivalent to texas) to be able to "purchase" any one of the discarded cards for 2 x ante, and the action moves clockwise until the dealer (equivalent to texas) has made his decision (each player knows which card if any has been "purchasded" by whom)... then further betting is allowed starting from the SB etc upto a maximum of 5xante (like limit poker maximum bet would be 5xante inclusive of raises and reraises etc)... then the turn card would be dealt and all players have to discard two cards each leaving each player with three cards (all discarded cards visible to every player- but not folded cards so as to help the colluders)... then a further round of betting is allowed upto a maximum of 10x ante as before... thereafter the river card is dealt and and a further round of betting upto 10xante is allowed... however before the showdown each player is allowed to take one card from the player sitting on his right starting with the SB...ie SB would take one card (randomly) from the three cards the Dealer has leaving dealer with two cards and SB with four cards..then the BB would take one random card from the original three of the SB and so on until the dealer has taken his card... On showdown the rules would be omaha i.e each player would have to use two cards from his hand to make the best five card poker hand... Good luck betfair... to the players...this is a good game for having some fun when playing live...try it! |
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I would like betfair to bring in the following game...I am sure their programmers will be able to program the code with ease...
maximum Six handed, with everyone dealt six cards after having one ante each... each player to discard one card before the flop... all players able to see dicarded cards (but not by whom dicarded) thereafter the flop...everyone to discard one further card (12 discarded cards in total)..then the player from the SB (equivalent to texas) to be able to "purchase" any one of the discarded cards for 2 x ante, and the action moves clockwise until the dealer (equivalent to texas) has made his decision (each player knows which card if any has been "purchased" by whom)... then further betting is allowed starting from the SB etc upto a maximum of 5xante (like limit poker maximum bet would be 5xante inclusive of raises and reraises etc)... then the turn card would be dealt and all players have to discard two cards each, leaving each player with three cards (all discarded cards visible to every player- but not folded cards so as to help the colluders)... then a further round of betting is allowed upto a maximum of 10x ante as before... thereafter the river card is dealt and and a further round of betting upto 10xante is allowed... however before the showdown each player is allowed to take one card from the player sitting on his right starting with the SB...ie SB would take one card (randomly) from the three cards the Dealer has leaving dealer with two cards and SB with four cards..then the BB would take one random card from the original three of the SB and so on until the dealer has taken his card... On showdown the rules would be omaha i.e each player would have to use two cards from his hand to make the best five card poker hand... Good luck betfair... to the players...this is a good game for having some fun when playing live...try it! |
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1.01 he comes back saying something about Invalid Data (nap)
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I would like betfair to bring in the following game...I am sure their programmers will be able to program the code with ease...
maximum Six handed, with everyone dealt six cards after having one ante each... each player to discard one card before the flop... all players able to see discarded cards (but not by whom discarded) thereafter the flop...everyone to discard one further card (12 discarded cards in total)..then the player from the SB (equivalent to texas) to be able to "purchase" any one of the discarded cards for 2 x ante, and the action moves clockwise until the dealer (equivalent to texas) has made his decision (each player knows which card if any has been "purchased" by whom)... then further betting is allowed starting from the SB etc upto a maximum of 5xante (like limit poker maximum bet would be 5xante inclusive of raises and reraises etc)... then the turn card would be dealt and all players have to discard two cards each, leaving each player with three cards (all discarded cards visible to every player- but not folded cards so as to help the colluders)... then a further round of betting is allowed upto a maximum of 10x ante as before... thereafter the river card is dealt and a further round of betting upto 10xante is allowed... however before the showdown each player is allowed to take one card from the player sitting on his right starting with the SB...ie SB would take one card (randomly) from the three cards the Dealer has leaving dealer with two cards and SB with four cards..then the BB would take one random card from the original three of the SB and so on until the dealer has taken his card... On showdown the rules would be omaha i.e each player would have to use two cards from his hand to make the best five card poker hand... Good luck betfair... to the players...this is a good game for having some fun when playing live...try it! |
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I would like betfair to bring in the following game...I am sure their programmers will be able to program the code with ease...
maximum Six handed, with everyone dealt six cards after having one ante each... each player to discard one card before the flop... all players able to see discarded cards (but not by whom discarded) thereafter the flop...everyone to discard one further card (12 discarded cards in total)..then the player from the SB (equivalent to texas) to be able to "purchase" any one of the discarded cards for 2 x ante, and the action moves clockwise until the dealer (equivalent to texas) has made his decision (each player knows which card if any has been "purchased" by whom)... then further betting is allowed starting from the SB etc upto a maximum of 5xante (like limit poker maximum bet would be 5xante inclusive of raises and reraises etc)... then the turn card would be dealt and all players have to discard two cards each, leaving each player with three cards (all discarded cards visible to every player- but not folded cards so as to help the colluders)... then a further round of betting is allowed upto a maximum of 10x ante as before... thereafter the river card is dealt and a further round of betting upto 10xante is allowed... however before the showdown each player is allowed to take one card from the player sitting on his right starting with the SB...ie SB would take one card (randomly) from the three cards the Dealer has leaving dealer with two cards and SB with four cards..then the BB would take one random card from the original three of the SB and so on until the dealer has taken his card... On showdown the rules would be omaha i.e each player would have to use two cards from his hand to make the best five card poker hand... Good luck betfair... to the players...this is a good game for having some fun when playing live...try it! |
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SORRY FOR MULTIPLE POSTS ...KEPT COMING UP NOT BEING ABLE POST
SORRY FOR INCONVENIENCE typical betfar |
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get some decent software not this comedy rubbish where you flop the nuts then your oppo hits runner every hand
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PLEASE end d2n games when it gets to 3 players.. PLEASE.
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I wish there was hand for hand play on the bubble and that you could chop a pot on the final table.I also think that the leaderboard prize money is pitiful and meaningless to many players.In the past I`ve finished in the top 10 of the mtt leaderboards and made a loss for the week.It don`t seem right imo.As fas as the betfair points go they seem like a complete waste of time .Also speaking English only at the tables is a complete farce,I don`t know why you bother mentioning it at all.Players seem to speak in any language.I do hope that the new schedule caters for all and that the majority of mtts are not turbo or super turbo like it was before.
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I am playing on 6 handed 2/5 cash and a player has been sat out for thirty minutes. He is storing data on players without even playing, when will you implement measures which prevent players from not playing and simply storing data until they see who the biggest losers are and then play them.
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My Top 5
Collusion Collusion Collusion Crap Software Bruce Stubbs |
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My tuppence worth,
Positives 1. I feel that my money is secure within Betfair, it is easy to deposit/withdraw. Money is ringfenced and feels as secure here as within a high street bank. I guess as secure as the bank where the deposits are held. Possibly not saying much. Concerns 1. Collusion - reportedly quoting the data protection act and seemingly taking no action does not provide a level of comfort to anyone who currently plays on the site. That this is regularly talked about on the forum will not encourage anybody to switch to the site, this needs to be addressed. Betfair need to replicate the confidence their consumers have in handling of the sports book where there are irregular betting patterns within their poker community. 2. Players sitting at cash tables and then sitting out with their hand histories on to obtain showdown data and betting patterns of the other players at the table playing. This sends me on life tilt, mentioning no names NiKoStHePro. There must be a patch to turn hand histories off if you are not actually playing, i.e. having posted the BB, SB for the circuit. It does cost Betfair money because I will sit out rather than have them sitting there just because of the life tilt it puts me on. |
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***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 599770848 *****
NL $50/$100 Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, November 04, 01:40:09 GMT 2009 Table Capricorn 6-max (Real Money) Seat 5 is the button Total number of active players : 6 Seat 1: ITILTYOU2 ( $2,000 ) Seat 2: WillyWonky ( $8,777 ) Seat 3: Potty007 ( $3,243 ) Seat 4: partyboooj ( $2,797 ) Seat 5: ubriaco ( $5,936.24 ) Seat 6: LYLU ( $4,900 ) LYLU posts small blind [$50] ITILTYOU2 posts big blind [$100] ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to WillyWonky [ 9s, 2s ] WillyWonky folds Potty007 calls [$100] partyboooj calls [$100] ubriaco calls [$100] LYLU raises to [$600] ITILTYOU2 folds Potty007 calls [$500] partyboooj folds ubriaco goes all-in ubriaco raises to [$5,936.24] LYLU folds Potty007 folds Returning uncalled bet [$5,336.24] to ubriaco ** Hand Conclusion ** ubriaco wins $2,000 from main pot ************ Game 599770848 ends ************ Couple of notes first of all: 1)Lylu was playing on table with partyboooj earlier in night, then party left and joined a different table and instantly Lylu and ubriaco joined it together. I have never seen ubriaco before but they were both from ROMANIA (first two i have seen from there). Onto the hand in question, there were two fish at the table so these two romanians must have been creaming their pants. Fish no.1 limps UTG+1, fish no.2 limps cutoff, then ubriaco decides to limp behind on the button. Now anyone that plays poker knows that ubriaco cannot have a strong hand here, unless of course he knows his romanian friend is going to raise from the SB so that one or both the fish call then ubriaco can shove. This is the most blatant collusion i have seen at the stakes i've played on betfair. My friend who plays 2/5+ told me that he's played with them quite a bit and its extremely obvious that they work together. Will you do anything about this betfair? I asked them about it in the chat (2 mins after they talked in chat, so they were perfectly able) and they never said a word. |
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A few callers a player limps then reraises all in is virtually unheard of at higher stakes. You are bang on in suggesting he knew the pot would be raised behind.
Betfair have been receiving emails for several years now about **s. Often they are amateurs at low stakes, so many people don't pay too much attention to it as they are usually fish anyways who ** and still lose. Now at higher stakes people have been complaining and getting weak replies from betfair. This has happened so much **s have realised the following: 1) Betfair poker has no anti collusion software 2) When informed betfair virtually never take any action 3) Not one player has had funds confiscated for **ing, just a few cases of accounts closed and **ED money sent to the **s bank account. The omaha 6 handed on betfair is an absolute disgrace, it is much harder to prove though. However if tough punishments were dished out to **s and money confiscated people would think twice. During the WSOPE some players on high stakes plo (mainly finnish) were **ing so bad it was unreal. This poxy thread will not achieve much for betfair, bad management and total disrespect to players for several years has almost damaged the poker site beyond repair. I personally would estimate ONCE (if ) things are corrected it will take 3-5 years for people to return and have faith in betfair poker. Betfair can you please be totally honest. We need a full report on how you deal with collusion, anything less and people will hate you even more. We do not need one statement on collusion, we need a debate. Ypu put forward your story, we reply and see if a medium can be reached. p.s. How many members of staff will you sack for being so incompetent over recent years. |
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Hello WillyWonky
I didn't pick Romanian by accident earlier in the thread. Will speak later if you are around. I know Corleone was mentioned earlier up this thread too. I think that is a bit of a wild goose chase. I don't like the fella, but if he is sat at a $10/$20 table, you can guarantee it is because a fish or possible fish has sat. I expect lots of people have him in find a player, as why bother hunting the fish yourself, when he is so good at it. At 6am the only people probably still up looking for fish are the Canadians and __data__. I'd be suprised if Sky Lopez is involved in colluding with him, as most of the higher stakes regs have a dislike for corleone only matched by that of Andy Feldman. Doobs Doobs |
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The three canadians you mentioned ForumTramps are definitely not working together. I guess it wasn't late for them at that time and one of their fish on find a player must have just joined. The find a player and notify option means you can join instantly and the canadians were probably some of the few still up at that time. Corleone is annoying but definitely an honest player.
I was thinking about emailing betfair about this but since I heard that paul twaddle had gone there is no one specific to emai. You just know some clown who has never played poker at any decent level will look at it and decide there is nothing untoward. |
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BETTFAIR POKER Q - LET US KNOW WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND
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Yea M Corleone is a straight player. The same definitely can't be said for junkstar and Sky Lopez. There have been too many coincidences with regards to those two players. It would appear SkyLopez has M Corleone on his player find and Sky and Junk are good friends (or same person as is often the case on betfair).
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