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I bet we were all little racists back then as well.....
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ThE E.U.want UK as soon as possible; im sure the UK will drag there feet i.e. SCOTLAND and the N Ireland but there gone ,They have no friends in Brussels , Personally i think its a sad state of affairs , i wouldn,t want to be the next leader of the UK Gov.
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SRY, out
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I believe, RA, that what you propose may happen is known as the Breversal.
If I may, once again, quote from tomorrow's Economist (it says it better than I ever could); *************************************************************************************************** Britain’s next leader must explain to 17m voters that the illusion they were promised—all the EU’s benefits with none of its obligations—does not exist. Only when the authors of the Brexit fantasy themselves return from Brussels without this magical deal might Leave voters accept that a compromise is necessary. Given that nearly half of British voters did not want out, it is likely that a majority might prefer a Norwegian compromise to complete isolation. Whatever deal takes shape in Brussels will be so far from what was promised by the Leave campaign that it will surely have to be put to the British public again, through a general election, another referendum or both. It is even possible that the whole notion of Brexit may stall. A thin majority have said they would prefer life outside the EU to life inside. But it may be that, when faced with the question of whether to endorse a Norway-like deal that entails many of the costs of being in the single market without having a say in the rules, many would rather stay in the EU after all. Negotiating over Brexit will stretch the tolerance of both British voters and European leaders. Yet the EU specialises in muddled compromises and talking its way around referendums. After months of economic hardship, and a recession-induced fall in immigration, British voters may be ready to think differently about the balance between immigration, the economy and their place in Europe. By far the most likely outcome of this sorry situation remains Brexit. But it would be wrong completely to discount the possibility of an inelegant, humiliating, and yet welcome, Breversal. |
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Oh dear,surely this "liberalism" respects and honours a democratic vote?
No realism,no spiritalism only materalism,look at yourself. |
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Pragmatism, Pa, pragmatism, who know's what's ahead.
Whats with this sudden outbreak of spritualism btw? Have you had to fire up your Bong to get you through Portugal/Poland? |
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Haha twas a tough match alright and a no happy ending story.
Ireland has enough problems,i'd like to see some way a half equal society there at least and even the basic human right of having your own roof over your head is unattainable to too many. I'll tell you the the story of "the porridge man" from 1930,s Ireland another time, it was tragic but it isn't too far off today in it's own way. |
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I would say if they try to reverse Brexit , there would be anarchy on the streets of Britain for years to come ,when their backs are to the wall the is hardly a more formidable opponent than the British bulldog . If the British people are betrayed by their own I dread to think the mayhem that would desend on that country .So before this talk of reversel gathers any momentum , don't say ye haven't been warned ,a divived UK would be no placeto live for anyone , the thought of what those who would be betrayed might do doesn't bare thinking about ...
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Wildman I thought your economic plan A for a Britain out of Europe was based on attracting Russian money into the city of London. At the same time you call London a foreign country within Britain. At the same time you talk about the working class person outside of London suffering most but your economic strategy to get Britain back on its feet again involves Russian billioanaires who asset striiped their own country putting their money into the city of London.
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Its a factor.
The main economic plan is get back your fisheries,support the industries you previously weren't allowed to. Get new trade deals with Australia and New Zealand for a start. Scrap all those green taxes so beloved of the EU. The lifting of sanctions against Russia is not alone the right thing to do,it makes economic sense. France and Spain are clamouring for dispensation on account of losses in the food sector. Whilst London is a foreign city it is the economic engine of the UK,it has all sorts of money swirling through it,Russian money would be welcome. Part of me would like to cripple those banks not alone for their general despicable behaviour but also for supporting the Evil Empire. |
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Fisheries
and f**k D'Environment!What about the Turf, Captain Mainwaring, don't forget the Turf. We can build our whole economic policy around it. [ This image is no longer available. ] |
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You misunderstand again,its the British economy we are discussing.
Flick through those back copies of the Economist and you might find an article on Carbon and Green taxes. If Britain were to abandon them it would be the equivalent of a 10 % rise in everyone's income. These are strange times, Britain should drop the green taxes and all overseas aid on a temporary basis til they get their finances in order. |
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Oz - peach
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i am a eurosceptic and would have leaned towards leave but there is no doubt the leave side have made an absolute ed balls of the fall out.
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![]() Wildman with another NHS will gain £50 million a week calculation i see. |
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Its like the next UK P.M will be a women, Andrea Leadsom looks the only danger to Theresa May, 20/1 bar the rest
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/12174421/Married-City-lawyer-and-QC-caught-having-sex-at-Waterloo-station.html
There was that story a couple of months back. Not sure. Could just have been his reputation as not being that hard working, reliable (always late to meetings). His newspaper column last Monday appeared to be rowing back on some Leave pledges which infuriated many and re-enforced the thought that he was not as Euro sceptic as he had made out to be, only siding with Leave to future his own ambitions. |
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My post on Boris Johnson was removed.i wrote a similar one on the politics forum its still there.
An earlier post on Russia also removed. Its normally posts that say anything favourable about Israel that go first although criticism of the EU is coming a close second. |
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So many of them walking with E.U. flags on that march yesterday , doubt very much they were British ,who in their right mind would WANT to be governed by a bunch of unelected morons . Selling their souls and Country for 30 pieces of silver imo..
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Funny how all the men involved deeply in the Euro split are proving to be seriously flawed , leaving us ( in the UK anyway ) with mainly female contenders . Looks like England , Scotland , and NI will have first ladies , and they still cant join Muirfield ( Troon voted yes on women this week ) . Will women rule the world ? Though hard to see anyone displacing Putin .
If women continue to raise that glass ceiling , will the world be better or worse ? |
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Better, though good luck trying to convince the rank and file here of that. The recent consensus amongst many on here (coincidentally also those in favour of Brexit) was that a Woman's place was in the home.
When Wonks hears these Ladies are ....LESBIANS.....he may well be pining for 'the bunch of elected morons' in Brussels. |
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at least northern ireland has a very capable woman leader.i pity those in scotland with that jimmy krankee headcase.she wants to divorce scotland from a union with the rest of the uk which it has everything in common with yet she wants to remain in a europe in which the typical scot has much less in common.
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Ozy, Only yesterday I held a beautiful Lesbian in my arms and kissed her , she'd broke up with her girlfriend and needed a shoulder to cry on , now who am I to turn away a beauty in need ....
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I didn,t know you voted for Catherine Zappone W/R.
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Joking aside, these events really bring home how plainly difficult it is for Ireland to be an independent nation due to it's geographical, cultural and practical trading links with the UK. I said on another thread that the Irish media were in crisis mode, print media particularly. That same sneering attitude the Islington types in the labour party are supposed to be expressing to the white working class, the Irish media and politicos are now showing to the referendum decision.
If I was cynical, I'd be assuming that many who had their fingers burnt in 2008, were then advised to invest in the UK residential and commercial markets (much safer than at home blah di blah di blah)and are now, to use a racing term, talking through their pockets. |
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Frank .Jumper I see Mr Blair is now trying to get another pop at a 2nd Referendum , just shows how corrupt they are , Democracy and the Left ,well theres a joke if I ever heard one , they'd sell their children if the price was right , what a shower of scum they are! |
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Fgs man vistis the UK once a year for a few days to give some bookmakers some money and think he knows everything what is going on, could not make it up.
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If you were a bookmaker what odds would you give a 2nd Referendum within a year of todays date. 4/1 for me
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more like 100/1
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I've spent more time getting on the tube than you've been in England you gobshyte ..I think I've spent more time in Sligo than you have in England come to think of it....
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You must be the only man ever to go racing in bath and Cartmel and claim to have took the tube there
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The E.U.looking after business ,never mind the workers , Britain can count itself lucky its getting out now!
ance's government has used a special measure to force approval of a divisive labour bill in its lower house of parliament without a vote - for a second time. French Prime Minister Manuel Valls invoked a special constitutional article to approve the second reading of the bill. He did the same thing for the bill's first reading. The decision prompted politicians to march out of the National Assembly in anger. Mr Valls argued that the bill is needed to boost hiring after decades of high unemployment and said he made the move "in the general interest". The bill prompted divisions in the governin |
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The bill prompted divisions in the governing Socialist party. Opponents say it will threaten hard-won worker protections because it allows employers more freedom to lay off workers and extend working hours.
The bill faces a final reading later this month. French unions marched through nearby Paris streets in what may be their last show of force against the bill, which has divided the nation and prompted the worst social unrest in years. Protesters in Paris and other cities want the government to scrap the bill entirely. Months of demonstrations and strikes have damaged tourism, caused fuel shortages and led to frequent clashes between projectile-throwing protesters and police firing tear gas. Mr Valls used the same constitutional manoeuvre for the first reading of the bill, inflaming critics who accuse the government of trampling democracy. The bill now goes back to the conservative-led Senate, then returns later this month to the lower house, which has the final say |
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I would go 15/1 on a referendum within 12 months. I see a Norway style deal agreed within 36 months, i.e. pay the same money to access EFTA, the same freedom of movement as now, but no farming subsidies or structural payments or indeed any say into how the EU law to which they must adhere is made, than they had in the EU.
On top of that the period of uncertainty will hurt the British economy and more importantly its reputation as a stable society and its all important soft power. On the plus side the Leave side did get to wave those little flags. At that point another referendum with three options, this one legally binding. Remain in the EU. Do a Norway. Leave on World Trade Organisation terms. How will we bet on that, I make WTO the favorite, what with all the dirty Russian money and mass exports of people, sorry I meant little flags to NZ and Oz, to send the UK economy into overdrive. |
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Wonderful post, keep up the good work Wildman
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