Found this little gem to make you ponder Ozy..
Gin    29 Jun 16 10:51 
It seems that our country has radically changed in the last few weeks and these are the new rules:

We should embrace diversity and be open to the ideas of people who are different from us and sometimes see things in a different way to us – unless of course they have a different opinion to us on the Brexit debate. Then we should do all we can do bear down on them and accuse them of being vile, racist, little Englanders and do everything we can to suppress their opinions.

A young person’s vote is now apparently worth more than an old person’s vote.

The Scottish “nationalist” Party apparently want to leave a union where the larger partner has ceded more and more control to them over the last few years only to join a much larger one that will take it away again.

After terrorist atrocities are carried out in the name of religion, we have people falling over themselves in the rush to tell us that we should in no way link the peaceful majority of that religion to the attacks. Yet, when a few extreme nutters attack foreigners in the name of Brexit, those same people are out with the tar brush blaming those attacks on more than half of the country.

Those on the far left who for years have railed against the establishment are now apoplectic that we have finally turned our back on one of the most elite, overly bureucratic, un-democratic institutions on the earth (and one whose stated aim is to become a USE - United States of Europe) and are screaming for us not to leave.

It is now acceptable to pillory voters who voted to leave by pointing out that they are in the main poorer and less well educated (as if being poorer and less well educated meant your vote is somehow worth less). I will wait until the next general election and then accuse Labour supporters of the same and then we will see just how acceptable this practice really is…………

All over the country there have been rallies to protest about the result by people who want a second referendum. These are literally anti-democracy rallies by the same people who can normally be seen protesting in the name of democracy.

It's a strange world.Happy

pity the dim ozy doesnt have the ability to see anything from someones elses point of view.

spot on! ive found it quite amusing at times tho watching the remain camp throwing their tantrums

not one of your better attempts at humour d'opy...sorry d'ozy although the watsapp group are generally a bunch of very intelligent and well informed individuals,with the exception of myself ofcourse so they would make i great cabinet.

see ozy you are claiming that yourself and the other remain voters are the intelligent ones, that just shows how bright you are, I call you european pigeons. Flock around together talk and create sh1t and unknown to yourselves don't have a brain. The cats out of the bag sorry, I can't put up with your intolerance any more.

Main argument for remain is economics and jobs . Heard today of a meeting last Friday morning which was to rubber stamp a 50 MILLION initial spend on an operation to be set up here which would run and run given it would be a world ( or at least European leader). Very short meeting , no operation  , scrubbed .  How many ( good) jobs would that have generated , mainly for graduates so no minimum wages etc ?  Guarantee you the office of our First Ministers would have been well represented in the media if it had gone ahead , publicity , despite one of them urging followers to leave .

Re sovereignty , Blair became Bush's acolyte , Cameron also liked to be very close to Obama  , and the next one will behave similarly  too ,particularly if its Boris and there are photo opportunities .

The fracture of the EU would be right up with the terrorists aims  , individual countries are easier to "pick off " than a group . Lots of the EU laws are barmy , and costly , and some are not fit for the real purpose they might have set out to achieve  , and the social charter they engender makes business tricky betimes .

The reason most voted to leave was based on emotional return to an England where order and law and behaviour were restored to  past criteria . It ignored the fact that the NHS and most of the factories are staffed by generally hard working foreigners doing jobs the "locals" do not want to do or feel is beneath them . The airwaves have been full of like stories since last Friday , all with the ring of truth . The work ethic among the "locals" has been watered down through various generations  , hard to resurrect it .

Reform the EU , put a benevolent dictator in charge , throw out the stupid and unenforceable laws ( or ignore them like the French do ) and give back limited sovereignty to member states who can be trusted to conform ( with fiscal penalties for those who dont , or expulsion ) . Run a tighter ship all around . Easy to say , hard to achieve though.

he shows the same disdain for the exit voters that he shows to all the hills customers whos bets he knocks back on a daily basis.hes just a robot really.

Thank you for the insights, gentlemen. Have to say that you echo the vocal support for Leave this side of the water. I'm surprised but have to say that I have not seen migration as a threat. My main reasons for supporting Remain were not economic but, on that theme, since Brexit, your betting bank is worth more than someone playing against you in sterling.

The now complainers had no empathy with that and just wanted to preserve their status quo, whatever the consequences it serves them right.

There have been many extraordinary statements on here over the years but this is right up there.

So, what you are saying is even if the ant-immigration protest vote plunges the UK into economic ruin, it will have been worth it?  surely the main plank of the anti-immigration stance is the perception that it is curtailing the standard of living of less well off indigenous Britons?   Now you are saying that even if Brexit leads to economic ruin it will have been worth it as attempt to return to racial purity and as a manner of showing two fingers to the Establishment?  Prouder and Purer but Poorer.  And there was me thinking it was all about improving living standards of the working English man.

The predicted economic ruin,the return to the dark ages isint taking place.

If anything Brexit is causing more economic hardship to the EU than to Britain.

I am coming around to the opinion that there has been and is a deep seethed loathing of Europe (EU) that was fueled in the 70s/80s (Thatcher didn't help) and the UK really never accepted the EU as a friend/partner and were carried kicking and screaming in to the EU (The UK Press never accepted the EU). The EU has its flaws I agree, but to me it was/is the future of free economic trade and friendship/peace with our European friends. But this is my view I accept that.

The UK will have to come up with a solution/request of how they want to trade/deal with the EU and make their offer .... already the press are blaming the EU ... hold on the UK voted to leave not the other way around.

Anyway I'm off to see The Corrs at Epsom tonight and any info/opinions would be welcome

the consequences of unchecked immigration are amongst others a cheap labour pool,pressyre on housing, schooling and the NHS.

FFS!....what do you think an economy in freefall is going to do to tax contributions to schools and NHS?  What will wage inflation do to the economy?  Are Britains workers sufficiently skilled to demand a wage premium to existing levels and remain compeditve in a globalised econmy.

You are having a laugh, Lapsy.

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

The economy of Britain is not in freefall ( you vindictively want this ) indeed the evidence shows its the German and French economies are under pressure.

One thing you Remainers never factored in was there was no guarantee that the EU would not hit stormy weather.

The EU needed Britain far more than Britain needed the EU.
If Britain sent Nigel Farage over to negotiate he'd get them a deal of all deals.

If Enda Kenny uses his head he will abandon that " wee Krankie woman " and act as an intermediary for Britain as again we need their markets far more than they need ours.

Is Rocketfingers posting for you ?

You have to see how it pans out Oz,where are you getting "freefall" from?,no one will want another recession or whatever.
You are not answering my main point,why was so much unchecked immigration allowed? Is it morally right to "import" cheap labour?

I cant help feeling that Ozy likes to hop the ball ;which is not to say that he has some concerns about the future of his beloved pound. On a more sporting note its sad to see no thread for the the Bridgesone or the Frence open golf, I would have put up myself but im afraid im no Callit, I think most foremites would agree it was one of the best threads on the irish forum.

Not by me.

Not popular in the parliamentary party.
He tested the waters found he had no chance of making the run off so withdrew.

It looks to me like a straight fight between Theresa May and Michael Gove with Theresa May winning easily.
Andrea Leadsome was excellent during the campaign but would be surprised if she declared.

Theresa May would worry me.
She was rather sly in the campaign,went into hiding as a tactic.
She's been Home Secretary for six years and has done nothing to curb immigration.

Then try watching your Country been over run by Immigrants , and NOTHING been done to stop it , now theres a REAL cause for  extremism . Amazing how the left are hurt by WORDS , smirks of mammys boys been told off by their mothers . When a REAL situation arises , not a word from the mammys boys

Theresa May 1.7 here Wildman if you fancy throwing a few quid [sry euro] on her, I say she would be more popular on this side of  water then the last female Conservative Leader.

Insideinfo , you are dealing with a guy who thinks democracy is ,when I lose I get ANOTHER chance brigade ,Lisbon treaty springs to mind .Neither him or Ozy ever refare to that little turner .