Through his foundation DJQ,a lot of money passes through it and to imo genuine good causes,(accounts are available online) as someone else has mentioned the quote above i,ve never been aware of JPM publically looking for acknowledgement or anything of the sort but maybe you can correct me.

I couldn't possibly guess at the figures, but the amount of people employed as a direct consequence of JP McManus' interest in horse racing must be substantial.


This is the same ad shoyte that's trotted out to  give Mc Manus some sort of credibility.  You will find he is more of a parasite than a host. I don't know of anything he has done for his country. 

To get back on topic, First Lieutenant was good today and it looks like connections may have left a Gold Cup behind.

This is the same ad shoyte that's trotted out to  give Mc Manus some sort of credibility.  You will find he is more of a parasite than a host. I don't know of anything he has done for his country.


Where will I find this? Give some evidence man if you're going to cut a fella in half.

Where will I find this? Give some evidence man if you're going to cut a fella in half.

Its in every paper...all the time.  Cringeworthy stuff.  I wouldn't be surprised that he has a PR person working on the brief to highlight him as this quiet philanthropist man-of-the-people do gooder.

Ozy.......It beats the stories of celtic tiger heroes doing a runner and leaving the stat

First of all JP i am sure will leave no expense spared for JT. Can't believe people would even ask that.

Cooper gave Lieutenant a great ride and I really think this guy is Paul Townend esque....clearly has class in abundance on a racehorse.

Road to Riches fell out big time at Aintree? what happened there?. Waste of time looking for Meade to deliver when it counts.

Mouse should get Akorador from Elliott he would turn him into a proper horse just like FL and Rule the world

Tony57.......it won first time out......very nice animal.

Gigginstown have some lovely young horses.......that wrath of titans could go for the landrover bumper....he cost €150k unbroken.

Another mistake Gigginstown continue to make is running their horses in bumpers. In the last 30 years very few Gold Cup winners have run in or won a bumper. I don't know of any Gold Cup winner that has won two bumpers. They are rushing their young horses. The good point to Point winners should go straight over fences and should be trained by Mouse Morris. Their other trainers are not capable of training a Gold Cup horse.

Tom Taaffe trained a Gold Cup winner so obviously some luck required.

Tom Taaffes Gold Cup winner won the first four year old bumper of the year in Leopardstown when he was effectively a three year old.

1987    The Thinker    9   
1988    Charter Party    10   
1989    Desert Orchid    10   
1990    Norton's Coin    9   
1991    Garrison Savannah 8   
1992    Cool Ground    10   
1993    Jodami    8   
1994    The Fellow    9   
1995    Master Oats    9   
1996    Imperial Call    7   
1997    Mr Mulligan    9   
1998    Cool Dawn    10   
1999    See More Business 9   
2000    Looks Like Trouble 8   
no race 2001 [5]               
2002    Best Mate    7   
2003    Best Mate    8   
2004    Best Mate    9   
2005    Kicking King    7   
2006    War Of Attrition 7       
2007    Kauto Star    7   
2008    Denman    8   
2009    Kauto
2010    Imperial Commander 9   
2011    Long Run    6   
2012    Synchronised    9   
2013    Bobs Worth    8   

Those highlighted are bumper winners and Best Mate,Imperial Commander and Bobs Worth only ran once in a bumper (noncompetitive English Bumpers) and no Gold Cup winner won 2 bumpers.
Most of the above Gold Cup winners have never run in bumpers.
Arguably, Willie Mullins best Gold Cup horse was Florida Pearl who never ran in a bumper, or indeed over hurdles.
The point I am trying to make is bumpers can ruin good young horses. Based on the evidence above, if you want to win a Gold Cup keep young horses away from tough competitive Irish bumpers.
Mouse Morris rarely runs one in a bumper,First Lieutenant being one of the exceptions but I doubt that was his decision.
Yes jimean, Noel Chance trained two Gold Cup winners which is remarkable, maybe he is lucky or just like Gary Player, “The more I practice, the luckier I get.”

Florida did run in bumpers, my mistake.

I would love to think that Sir Des Champs will get back to winning ways next week. Hopefully he does as he is just a beautiful horse and fantastic gold cup horse over the next few years

Will it be Davy's last major meeting as numo uno??

I would agree that Giggy running too many horse in bumpers....especially as they insisted they do not like them. So why run so many horses in them, I know you dont want to ruin there novice status which is perfectly legitimate but what run some horses in a bog in clonmel on a thursday.

Had a good look at Very Wood yesterday and I loved him but unfortunately did damage by telling others he is not a bumper horse and definitely not capable of winning a four year old bumper,this lad is a chaser and some prospect.

Wrath Of Titans another lovely horse with a bright future.

Bumpers used to be an introduction for National Hunt horses but now you have flat breds( Very Wood raced against a Galileo) in them,cast offs from Coolmore and the Aga Khan and they are used as a shop window,they are also hard on a young horse.
Gigginstowns good horses are not for sale so don't get why they are now all running in them especially four year old bumpers,I hope they put these two horse by and don't run them in anymore bumpers.

Very Wood is as nice a horse as I have seen in a long time and for him to win a bumper at this stage of his career shows him to be a potential champion.

I must say thanks to Jane Mangan who recouped my losses from her ride on Azorian and then some yesterday.

I getting stuck into this Turnandgo, Dear god if Mullins rides this from behind I will shoot him.

Ride him up in the van or at worst in the top 3 and he will win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Around 2 Million pounds in prize money that Giggy have won.

Some really nice horses there and nice to See Un Atout get a grade 1. Sir Des Champs came best in the spring as usual.

Gigginstown have constantly improved year after year.

Next year may be the Golden one