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By:
Rocketfingers
When: 07 Oct 12 22:23
This is not of any concern of yours as you're not from this state richters.
By:
richters
When: 07 Oct 12 22:25
you are an IMBECILE and everyone on this forum knows it....NAP
By:
Anaglogs Daughter
When: 10 Oct 12 16:28
The Supreme Court has reserved judgment in an appeal by Seán Quinn Jnr against his conviction and imprisonment for contempt of court
By:
richters
When: 11 Oct 12 21:32
PRIMETIME NOW RTE 1
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 11 Oct 12 21:37
Here come the clowns
By:
richters
When: 11 Oct 12 21:42
no bigger clown than yourself bird......
By:
Diamond_Joe_Quimby
When: 11 Oct 12 21:52
Party political broadcast on behalf of the Quinn family


NAUSEATING is not the word for these cretins
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 11 Oct 12 21:54
Quinns sending out the women now Laugh

haha hilarious stuff, comedy gold on RTE.
By:
Diamond_Joe_Quimby
When: 11 Oct 12 21:54
What a **** Miriam is......
By:
Diamond_Joe_Quimby
When: 11 Oct 12 21:54
Desperate stuff alright bringing mother goose out
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 11 Oct 12 22:00
Signed for the loans but did not know what they were signing, god almighty more fool them. Please don't insult the nation's intelligence you bumpkins !
By:
reb
When: 11 Oct 12 22:01
Miriam Meets moves from Radio to TV.
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 11 Oct 12 22:04
She had a shocker
By:
JayTrumpOldTomDubbl
When: 11 Oct 12 22:26
Seems to be alot more to this than many of you understand.
On a lighter note Claire is absolutely gorgeous, and where did she come from ?
By:
richters
When: 11 Oct 12 22:30
TOES and FINGERS.......paddleTOES and rocketFINGERS seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet on this thread.....lets get the quinns first and the rest later.......or maybe paddleTOES is another one of rocketFingers alter egos......
By:
richters
When: 11 Oct 12 22:43
they also share a mutual hatred of sinn fein........
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 11 Oct 12 23:08
The Quinns seen the easy money, sure they never even bothered reading the loan agreements for these vast amounts of money. We should have no sympathy for these  gambling aristocrats with their 100 million wedding cakes. Royalty would not even have cakes costing that much. If they don't get the Quinn's then maybe we should stop paying the money we owe the banks.
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 11 Oct 12 23:08
The Quinns seen the easy money, sure they never even bothered reading the loan agreements for these vast amounts of money. We should have no sympathy for these  gambling aristocrats with their 100 million wedding cakes. Royalty would not even have cakes costing that much. If they don't get the Quinn's then maybe we should stop paying the money we owe the banks.
By:
GANT007
When: 12 Oct 12 08:30
A group of cretins owing 2.7 billion was wound up this week and the media blamed tough economic times...........The anglo boys who gave the loans will probably get time before the Quinns......3 of them in court this week..........an awful mess.
Rocketfingers.......Lots of people had lavish tastes in this country during the so called boom.
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 12 Oct 12 13:21
Paddletoe is not Rocketfingers,whilst I disagree with him on this issue his points are legitimate and well made something you could never say about Rocketfingers,there are no childish words in paddletoes post and judging by some of his other posts of a different species to the dull bucolic Rocketfingers
By:
reb
When: 12 Oct 12 13:31
Let's just hope that the German players weren't watching Prime Time last night.
By:
reb
When: 12 Oct 12 13:59
On second thoughts, if they were watching, it might have a seriously detrimental effect on their composure this evening :

Any chance Niall Quinn could come out of retirement ? 

"Gott in Himmel, QUINNLANDER !!"
By:
richters
When: 14 Oct 12 21:06
great turnout in ballyconnell 2day.....good to see........
By:
dj876
When: 14 Oct 12 21:11
Why?A man loses his stones on a cfd trade,pleads ignorance and lets his son rot in jail.
Hail modest king Sean because he plays poker for 50 pence?
By:
irish_guy_13
When: 14 Oct 12 21:33
richters must be taking the piss, he does come accross as that  big an eegit.
By:
richters
When: 14 Oct 12 21:39
no im fkn deadly serious........the family completely screwed over by anglo and the press are very selective on what they are tellin the public.....
By:
timberman
When: 14 Oct 12 21:44
IMpressive crowd today
By:
montablo
When: 14 Oct 12 21:50
Nothing more than glorified gamblers, worked hard to build their empire whatever way you look at it but then took their eye off the ball, greed proved to be their achilles heel and then they chased like everyone else. Now they should take their punishment instead of fobbing it off on the Irish taxpayer
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 14 Oct 12 21:59
What sticks in the craw of some of us is the real villains Anglo Irish Bank having gone bust are now in control of all the Quinn profitable businesses.
I get the outrage and don't think the Quinns are saints but the problem was caused by the ludicrous bank guarantee given by Brian Cowan,this means that we now own Anglo Irish but that doesn't absolve them of their crimes and seeing them in the role of prosecutors is grating.
By:
GANT007
When: 14 Oct 12 22:07
If the Quinn family screamed the magic word at the start they would still be living the good life........NAMA.
By:
JayTrumpOldTomDubbl
When: 14 Oct 12 22:30
Wildman, I would agree there with most of your post
Gant, you maybe right but listening to Eamonn Dunphy on RTE1 radio today he said Nama is a scam, and "there is loadza evidence to show this", and with a Government Junior Minister (for creatons) on the panel this seemed to be acepted by all, including the chairperson Marian F.
I wonder what is Alan Dukes doing now, whats his role ?. He has a huge salary with the busted bank, formerly Anglo, and has a number of pensions. Yet we never hear a word from him, and its the taxpayer thats paying him, both his salary and pensions.I can remember him as Minister for Finance, and on budget night he was on what was then Seven Days, with Brian Farrell, and others and he,Dukes sat at a round table and said that after his budget today the PAYE worker is ONE POUND better off at the end of the week. That was his opinion of the taxpayer in those days. Has that opinion changed ? Hardly.
By:
richters
When: 14 Oct 12 22:37
jay u r not allowed to mention things like that or people like dukes on here......this is a state witchhunt against the quinns and dont 4get that.....the truth will come out in this saga and the quinns are quite confident that it will.......dont get me wrong the quinn group got greedy but there is more to this than the dublin press would lead the sheep to believe......
By:
timberman
When: 14 Oct 12 22:40
Irish Travellers are costing the state approx 1 Billion a year in social welfare benefits etc ...this will rise to  2 Billion a year over the coming 7/8 years due to Travellers high birth/welfare rates....THe travellers over the next 20 years will make Anglo Small beer!!
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 14 Oct 12 22:42
Alan Dukes laden down with pensions when asked about the pay rates in Anglo Irish stated it was no ones business but his,he seems to think it is his personal bank.
By:
JayTrumpOldTomDubbl
When: 15 Oct 12 09:59
Sorry there richters, didn't mean to cause any ripple Wink
By:
Anaglogs Daughter
When: 24 Oct 12 13:42
High Court issues details of Seán Quinn Jnr judgment

rte.ie
Wednesday, 24 October 2012


The Supreme Court has issued its detailed judgment outlining the reasons behind its dismissal last week of Seán Quinn Junior's appeal against his three-month sentence for contempt of court.


Seán Quinn Jnr was released from custody last Friday when his three-month sentence ended


In a four to one majority ruling, the court found there was "ample evidence" before the High Court to make the finding beyond a reasonable doubt that he was party to a $500,000 payment from a Quinn company.

The Supreme Court also ruled the High Court was entitled to conclude the contempt was outrageous.

Mr Quinn Jnr was knowingly engaged in the patently unlawful activity of interfering with the secured assets of the Quinn group of companies for the purpose of defeating IBRC's claim, the court found.

The court said the sentence of three months was "amply justified".

However, the court also found that the imposition of an indefinite sentence on foot of coercive orders could not stand due to procedural defects.

The court found the procedures followed by the bank in relation to other allegations of contempt of court were not properly followed.

A person whose imprisonment is to be sought must be given clear, adequate and fair notice or the order he is alleged to have infringed and this was not done, the court found.

In his dissenting judgment, Mr Justice Adrian Hardiman said he would have allowed the entire appeal by Mr Quinn Jnr.

Mr Justice Hardiman found the proceedings in the High Court were "a summary criminal trial" and the case against him was "entirely circumstantial".

He said only two specific findings of fact were made in relation to Mr Quinn Jnr - that he travelled to Kiev in August 2011 and that he attended a meeting with the woman to whom the payment was later made.

He said in the absence of any action by Mr Quinn Jnr, the bank fell back on a more general allegation that he was involved in a conspiracy or involved in an overall strategy.

He said: "It is simply not permissible to bring a citizen before a court with the object of having him locked up on one charge only and then to fall back on the proposition that there is evidence of a more general nature that he was up to no good or involved in an overall strategy..."

The High Court judgment made no attempt to distinguish the evidence against him from the evidence against the others, resulting in "an omnibus finding", the judge said.

This was "wrong, inadmissible and grossly prejudicial to Mr Quinn Junior".

Mr Justice Hardiman also said the "practical approach" taken by the High Court to jail Mr Quinn Jnr to encourage his father to purge his contempt was not a legally recognised basis of a just sentence.

Seán Quinn Jnr was released from custody last Friday when his three-month sentence ended.

He and his father are due back before the High Court next Thursday.
By:
mrcombustible
When: 24 Oct 12 13:56
Hardiman has got where he is today through FF.
By:
Kelly
When: 24 Oct 12 21:48
Not surpisingly the powers that be make up their own rules as they go along . Thats the way I interpret Mr Justice Hardmans comments above . When people are used effectively as bargaining chips ( even if they are guilty - probably but not proven- ) its time to have a long  dispassionate look at who is involved , what they implied in their dealings  , how much underhand encouragement was applied , and where does the blame lie squarely . I have no doubt that some of the Quinn family actions were wrong , might be harder to prove now reference Mr Justice Hardmans words above , but I have been saying consistently for ages that there was more skulduggery abroad than could be laid at the Quinns door .

Governments cant pick and choose who they want to pursue and punish , they have to be even handed , even to the extent of exposing any  of their own officials if they have sinned against the common good . Too bad if it proves costly to the State , and I am mindful also of what was largely involved in digging the hole bigger than it might have needed to be and those involved .
By:
Anaglogs Daughter
When: 02 Nov 12 12:12
11am Irish Examiner: Full house in Court 6 for Sean Quinn ruling. Judge has just begun her ruling.
By:
Anaglogs Daughter
When: 02 Nov 12 12:13
Irish Examiner‏@irishexaminer

Judge says ruling will deal with past non compliance with a High Court order by Sean Quinn
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