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the irish field guy said it was 4/11 for the winner to live in Ireland.
begs the question, why the hard on immediately after the race ? |
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I’m sorry that you’re harbouring a grudge and carrying it around with you since the Albert discussion when you also made yourself look like the ball ‘n bat that you’re showing yourself to be.
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Why the thread immediately after the race yesterday? Just glad youre going mad Cider. You know as well as everyone else you wouldnt have started that thread yesterday if it didnt involve Townend/Mullins or any Irish jockey. That's the point. You even made a point of mentioning the 'English' jockey from Fakenham. You haven't denied youre a bigot as you cant.
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That’s your interpretation and your wrong impression. I watch jockies body language and will explain no more.
 you seem to have put so much blame into this being the reason two of Townend's mounts made mistakes This is also your own incorrect impression! Yet, you suggest I take or need medicine?  MJK • April 11, 2026 4:28 PM BST Dela you had no problem joining the 3 anti Irish cheerleaders yesterday so take your medicine. Well a different one to the one youre already taking. |
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Dela dont be trying to deflect. I asked a simple question but perhaps, just perhaps, you're not as clever as you try to be on here. Maybe take an hours break every ten hours or so.
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He's a master. Don't think many others win on this horse.
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Take you’re advice and your grudge and poke it, I’ve explained that it’s you who has taken the wrong impression from I’ve said.
To suggest that I’m anti Irish is pathetic of you, what a maggot! |
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The thread was an observation immediately after the race, and I thought a worthy debating topic. I feel that is a tick. As I said to loper, I don't expect people to need to agree with my points.
Perhaps you are too dense to pick up on it. The nationality of the jockey related to how it was treated by RTV (in my view). 'We' are wetter than the English channel, broadcasters find it a lot easier to stick the boot in when it isn't a foreigner. And yes, if it had been a jobbing English jockey riding a finish on a horse with a broken back, they would have handled it differently, in my opinion. |
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I didn’t see the races that you e mentioned and have commented and asked questions about the part that you’re obsessed with.
I don’t need such a punany to tell me how to spend my time. |
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I get that you do dunce, and not so much nuance. And the little things get you going. I'll consider that for the future ;)
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I can recall seeing AP tap Clan Royal around the course, at every fence. That Townend doesn’t do it every time is there for anyone to see.
After Ruby said Impare jumps out to the right so he tapped him to straighten him. There was debate about whether Impaire would have won or been outstayed? That was up for debate. Was Golden Dancer also edging right yesterday? Hence the taps down the neck? Or does Paul tend to do that when he feels a horse tiring? Gold Dancer hit the 3rd fence out, was it shoeing him signs of tiring hence the tapping and next bad jump? They are all questions that I was putting out there up for discussion and I’ve used the two rides and their similarities as an example from which we can draw a conclusion. Leave your apologies for accusing me as being something that I’m not here. |
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Was no coincidence that the horse put in a bad jump and he was tapping it, then it eventually puts in an even worse and fatal jump.
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They aren't related contingencies. Mick seems to think that me starting this thread means that I feel Townend isn't a good jockey overall. Obviously that's not the case.
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He thinks he don’t like him because of where he’s from, it’s not about his skills as a jockey
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Deflection, deflection. All you have left. You're a bigot and you know it. 'They would have handled it differently'. Not talking about them, talking about you. As I said you only started the thread because it was Townend/Mullins. And it would have been the same if it was any other Irish jockey. But you have a particular hatred for Townend/Mullins.
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'hatred'
More telling is why you only started posting on this thread after they won the gn. Must have been festering lol You are obsessed with where horses and people live. |
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No need thank me for explaining to you why I pay attention in detail to how jockies ride. Or to apologise!
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My fav flat jock was Gerald Mosse, why? Because he didn’t sit with his hands planted on the neck like every other rider.
He had a long reign and let them find a rhythm. To me that encouraged them and I think he won a few G1’s the world over  |
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Stigma,he’ll be remembered for that day.
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Amercaine Melbourne Cup was a classic
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I’m finished with NH racing.
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I was long ago, the wins don’t make up for the losses of life
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Here MJK my first post on the thread, you like to remind others to look back and read through well here.
Delashay • April 10, 2026 2:43 PM BST I’m behind you all and have only just seen, made me feel sick. Ed the Tooth Sid well done to him for jumping off right after the line. Yeah after running 200 yards after your back legs had gone back and pointed toes together like diver Tom Daily  Let me know why you accused me of being one of the anti Irish? |
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All is forgiven Paul…..
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No need thank me for explaining to you why I pay attention in detail to how jockies ride. Or to apologise!
Except the two I asked you to look at. For someone who pays such close attention 'in detail' it seems to have somehow passed you by that Townend does that on practically every horse he rides that are in with a chance down to the last. |
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I’ve told you that I never saw the race and have no interest in them, I don’t watch everything, least you could do is restract your statement that I’m anti Irish.
He might do but he’s not as animated as he was on those, point being and I’ll ask again were they tired? You’ve not given an opinion on that so stop splitting hairs trying to dig me out. |
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I didn’t see Townend slapping Gaelic Warrior down the neck when wining the Gold Cup as he did those two that I’ve mentioned?
Why? Because it was tanking. |
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So draw your own conclusions, I have thanks
 And if you ever want an opinion it might be worth you taking your own medicine and retracting your nonsense. MJK • April 11, 2026 4:28 PM BST Dela you had no problem joining the 3 anti Irish cheerleaders yesterday so take your medicine I’ve shown I didn’t like what I saw, as Brandy pointed out this game ain’t for everyone and I’ve said before I’m not a jumps man and none of what I seen makes me change that stance, I have too much compassion for the horses and that out weighs winning a few quid. |
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In the words of Columbo, “Just one more thing…”
Given Gaelic Warrior’s propensity to jump right in the past, it’s interesting that he didn’t need the same taps as Impare did to keep straight. (Which was Rubies explanation.) Just another observation of the jock that does it all the time ;) Now I’m off to help a friend with scenery at a theatre, good day and may the road rise with you too! |
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This thread is also a good example of how betting and betfair have evolved over these last 25 years or so. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it has gone from a predominately racing focus medium where now, and with a younger growing cohort, who may only have joined up over the last few years, and racing isn't really their thing. Just ask the bookmakers about how football betting has really taken off over the last 15 years.
I love flat racing, I adore the jumps. Got a lot of time for Paul T, one of the all time greats. However, as McCoy said when someone referred to him winning 4,000 races. 'Yes, but I lost 16,000.' It'll be a sad day for me if racing is ever banned. I sincerely hope not in my lifetime. Thanks be to God, we'll never have these conversations in Ireland. |
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Put quite simply, your opinion of Townend is largely influenced by which side of the Irish Sea you were born (and potentially how strongly you feel about "historical" events).
I couldn't have in my top 10 jump jockeys, purely because I have never seen him do anything remarkable or exceptional in the saddle. He was simply at the right stable at the right time. |
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Jumper I’ve watched racing all my life, grew up watching with my dad like many of us, only joined here last year, don’t bet on the football (only occasionally have a bet on correct score if I think a team is in for a hammering)
Never been a lover of the jumps and haven’t missed not watching it over the winter. Watched yesterday as it’s tradition, but didn’t bet in the big race. I grew up playing football in a team of mainly slack and Irish guys we were the riff raff, one turned out to be quite good - Kevin Gallen. For racing to survive it has to clean up in lots of areas and things don’t go away by sweeping them under the carpet. Good day to you and be lucky. I’ve scenery to paint!  |
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As one ex top Irish champion said “ they’re not pets they are commodities “ ….
You wouldn’t let them into the kitchen…..Deary me… |
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Agreed about Bowen.
I would still like someone to point out a Townend ride where they could convincingly argue that he was the difference between the horse winning and losing, as you could easily do with AP and Bowen. |
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I like Bowen too. Clearly fitter and stronger than most others but there's no getting away from the fact that he's given some of these horses a mountain to climb with his Spencer like tactics at Cheltenham and Aintree. When it comes to Grade 1 races Townend and Kennedy are top of the tree at the moment by making less mistakes then the others and I expect Cobden to join them next year. You do need the ammo but put your horse in the right place too
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Remember next time a rider hears something,or feels something during a mid week affair regardless of the sp,decides to pull up….
“ heard something sir” Aye nae bother…. |
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Fair point ace. It wasn't too dissimilar to the mistake Il Etait Temps made at the last in the Queen Mother. If the horse recovers and keeps running think it's a bit harsh to have a go at the jockey
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Johann could you save everyone time and bullshit and just say you hate Townend. It's as simple as that isn't it. No need for the waffle. I suspect you and the other one are one and the same poster anyway so just be honest. Anyone who thinks Townend isn't in a class of his own as a current NH jockey has serious anger issues or worse. I suspect worse.
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I see the para paddy is still on one!
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