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that's the way it SHOULD be aceform...
we all know the rules... break them and it's cheerio imv... or maybe a 2nd chance (depending on how serious a breach it is)... the longer you keep going down the 'let's give him a hug' scenario the more these folk think they can just carry on with their crazy lifestyle... they need a shock to the system not an arm around the shoulder ffs. |
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Sir Matt must have had many a sleepless night with the Northern Irish lad aceform.
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Lol….look at the risen from years back
Edinburgh brothel…. Booze… Powder… Head butt….Glasgow kiss… Threatening with whip…. Countless other…. The still bow….you couldn’t make it up…. |
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Most work places are surrounded with danger and staff must behave or else….
Horse racing industry seems to be a free for all tbh….. |
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Acey - 'They certainly don’t deserve someone next to them who has issues or worse' - really ? We all have our issues surely ? Or are you perfect ?
How do you know the fellow riders live a decent life and don't abuse the system ? You follow the sport, how many have been stood down , banned , suspended , lost license for being over the breathalyser or taking coke ? Too many to count. Trainers / punters / jockeys / smoke a spliff at a summer bbq, or have a line of colombian. It is widespread and appears quite common these days. You know as well as I do that a lot of the jocks are hyper and it only takes a sugar rush to get them out of their trees. I suppose its the effect of starving themselves. As an example - A funny story many years ago, I was out one evening on a boat with a party of racing friends, and one of the jocks (who had been starving himself) ate a mars bar, stripped off and jumped over board into the river. Splashing around shouting help, we pulled him back into the boat and asked him why he was calling for help as he had only just jumped in , to which he replied - "I cant swim". That was off a can of fizzy coke a cola and a mars bar. . |
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Happy H, / Ace, for me the greater concern is the lack of integrity. Mainly around the cheats who get caught and welcomed back into the sport with open arms.
People who were busted for laying their mounts and now BHB / Jockey Club approved jockey coaches ! What are they going to teach youngsters ? How not to get caught stopping one ? |
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Captain Black and the Mysterons invented the pink….
Many in the sport abused it,some chased for life,some returned to carry on ….. The fodder paid heavily…. Once they find anything like booze or powder in their system it should mean lifetime ban…. Spare a thought for the innocent going like the clappers on a half ton horse not knowing if the risen was pure or not…. The establishment is as weak as Pee…. |
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Oneten..I was involved in a dangerous job most of my life….the companies took no prisoners you were out,other refineries and companies knew about any undesirable….
Duty of care…..abuse it yer fkd no messing… Two drivers in Grangemouth refinery in a heated exchange making threats to each other…..both swipe cards locked and informed to empty their lockers.. Union informed them they couldn’t be any help….out ! |
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How many more chances should he be given?
I have heard the girl works at Chelmsford in connection with dope testing. She is not the daughter of the black colours,that finished a while back |
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Then you could say the same should be done for every person in every job . Half the drivers in London on a friday or saturday night after midnight probably have alcohol or colombian powder in their system. They are in charge of a ton of car.
If they test a jockey and find traces of powder in their system from a few days prior, I dont imagine it will affect them. If they were sitting in the changing room snorting, it would be a different story, but that's not what is happening. The same with drinking. One glass of wine the night before wont affect their riding the following afternoon, a couple is risking breaking the limit. Alcohol limits are for a jockey half of what a driver can have : JOCKEY is 17 micrograms per 100. DRIVER is 35 micrograms per 100. |
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Lifetime ban would clean the roads ….large companies test workers frequently for dirt in the system…
The innocent are at the mercy of the dirty people who abuse themselves then drive…. Punishment should fit… |
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oneten...
i don't disagree with your 11:37 post tbh... i just think the sport is a complete and utter farce tbh... authorities must know it themselves which is why they do very little to clean the game up... coz they know if they do it will be a huge job and it would probably grind the industry to a complete halt followed by extinction imv. |
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There are countless teetotal sports men and women…..
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Are there countless teetotal sportsmen / women ? You hear of a few but I dont know if there are many .
But that is their choice and shouldn't be forced upon them. I can understand why some are teetotal as I had a friend who was an athlete and she was informed by her coaches / the science of the training program she was on, that any alcohol intake undid some of the hard physical training and as she trained so hard she was loathe to do anything that would jeopardise her training schedule. Though riding horses one would argue some are more "athletic" in their approach than others. Now it is the norm to go to the gym whereas 20 years ago it was unheard of unless it was AP. |
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Crikey , just caught up with this thread out of curiosity.
Feels like i've just watched an episode of One Foot in the Grave ![]() |
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Looks like the usual Kangaroo Court tbh Hayden.
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I am surprised that he has some sympathisers on here.
The man is 29, has had many chances and still does not learn from his mistakes. There is a girl seriously injured and may never walk again, that is all that should matter. This is a posting by ICY and I agree with him Forwarded this email? Subscribe here for more Point Blank: Oisín Murphy Is the Most Covered-Up Addict in Sport Icy Apr 30 READ IN APP A grey Mercedes A-Class crashes into a tree outside Hungerford just after midnight. A woman in her twenties is left seriously injured. The driver is 29. From Hungerford. He’s arrested for causing serious injury by dangerous driving and failing to provide a specimen. The name hasn’t been released. But you know who it is. You don’t need a press officer to confirm it. You just need a memory. This is Oisín Murphy’s legacy: not brilliance in the saddle, but a list of incidents so long it reads like the rap sheet of a lad who was never told "no." Because he wasn’t. He tested positive for cocaine in 2020. Said he kissed a girl. Got three months. He failed two breath tests in 2021. Lied about being in Mykonos. Got 14 months. He missed a breath test in 2024. Claimed he had haemorrhoids. Was back riding the next day. Every time, a new excuse. Every time, the racing media goes quiet or turns sentimental. He has a full PR team behind him. Not just a press contact - a coordinated machine. They keep him visible during bans. Feed lines to friendly outlets. Craft redemption stories before the ink is dry on the bans. He is media-trained to within an inch of his life. There’s no edge, no stumble, no unscripted moment. But you can still see it - the darkness underneath. The eyes give it away. He smiles, but it doesn’t reach. The charm is real, but it’s layered on top of something he hasn’t made peace with. That’s not speculation. That’s pattern recognition. He talks like someone who’s been rehearsed, because he has. Every line has polish. Every interview is soft focus. He was on the Royal Ascot broadcast team while banned - laughing, joking, brand intact. The PR machine kept him in your head every day of that suspension, a constant presence in features, punditry, and press. Right up until it’s bad news. Then they vanish. Then it’s silence. A girl lies in hospital and suddenly nobody knows his name. That’s how the machine works. When he was banned, they kept him front and centre. Showjumping in Spain. A guest at some novelty race abroad. Stories planted everywhere about how he was rebuilding. Carefully manicured bullshit to keep the name warm. But when the darkness spills out? When there’s a real story - a serious crash, a girl seriously hurt, and a driver who refused a sample? The coverage stops. Silence. One-way traffic. You can be an addict. You can destroy yourself. Plenty do. But when you hurt someone else - when there’s a victim who’s not you - the public doesn’t want to hear about your redemption anymore. That’s the line. That’s where the bullshit ends. Nobody cares about your comeback arc when there’s a young woman in a hospital bed. And this is the problem. Nobody has ever said Oisín Murphy can’t ride. He’s brilliant. But that brilliance has been used as a shield. One personal mess after another - failed tests, lies, bans - and every time, it’s brushed under the carpet. The media doesn’t just forgive. They enable. They keep feeding the myth. A lovely lad going through a rough patch. Well, something serious has happened now. A real story. A third party hurt. And if people in racing won’t go on the record now - if they’re still going to pretend he’s just misunderstood - then they are part of the disgrace. No more puff pieces. No more fake redemptions. No more Spain, no more showjumping, no more quietly slipping his name back onto the racecards without saying what he is. He is a man who has repeatedly shown he can’t be trusted. And now someone else has paid the price. Enough. But if you still need proof of how broken this all is, here it is: he rode at Windsor the night he was released on bail. A girl lay in hospital and Oisín Murphy showed up like it was any other Monday, rode a double, smiled for the cameras. That’s not strength. That’s pathological entitlement. A man so protected, so rehearsed, so used to being forgiven that he doesn’t even realise he’s in real trouble. And Matt Chapman was there. Of course he was. No comment. No questions. No hint anything had happened. Because when it goes wrong for Oisín, Chapman disappears. Just like the rest of them. No one steps in. No one says the obvious thing. They’ve all enabled him. They’ve all helped make this mess. And now someone else is paying for it. |
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Thanks for posting, Mr C.
Is Icy back on twitter? |
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who posted that mrc ?
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George he is not back on twitter, he emailed it to me.
Happyhibby Icy was a controversial poster on twitter, holds very strong opinions, he is an Irish guy who was a trader with Paddy Power, I can't remenber his rail name |
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sorry real name not rail!
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Cheers Mr C.
He's called Gearoid Norris |
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Gearoid Norris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChsDmJwrPd4 Betting People |
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I think he got banned from Twitter for calling out some dodgy tipping service..
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oh i see mrc...
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Imagine if that plastic tumbler was glass which normally would shatter on impact….dreadful form tbh.
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i didn't think that would be a mainstream press person right enough mrc.
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lead on...
i thought Elon Musk was all about free speach ? |
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speech even.
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Icy was "possibly" libellous.
Free speech doesn't cover that |
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Now, it's over to Mr Balding and his wife Anna-Lisa whether they sack Mr Murphy as a stable jockey or not. Mr Murphy is not a fit person to hold a professional jockey licence, and ride regularly on UK racecourses. I think it's only a matter of time Mr Murphy causes an incident on the race track with negative consequences for some; excessive drinking could lead to a blackout whilst fully conscious.
This don't-care attitude cannot and must not be tolerated in any sport let alone one which involves horses, excessive speed, bends, close proximity and other individuals. I think The BHA must act, and say "enough is enough" for a change. Mr Murphy is a very bad example for horseracing. Mr Murphy should be dealt with immediately ie restricted to ride or ban altogether. Mr Murphy refused (when requested by police) to provide a specimen in a motor accident where a young lady is lying in hospital seriously injured is not a fit and proper person professionally and/or in charge of a vehicle on public roads. I hope Mr Murphy - when found guilty - is given a custodial sentence to reflect on his repeated failures to deal with his addictions, and transgression of the guidelines of horseracing. Enough is enough! |
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The history of trainers and owners standing with an undesirable Risen is vomit inducing tbh….
The list is endless…..” good boy”……we all make mistakes. Yawn ! |
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Never rated him as this great jockey others seem to on here and U've said so plenty of times. Weaker than a lot of them in a finish and is almost reliant on the whip being in his right hand, even at the tracks where it should be in his left. I mentioned on here a long time ago about how a lot of people from his home town didn't like him for being 'a little p****', to quote one of them. In spite of all this if he genuinely has a problem then Balding has to take his share of the blame. He's clearly not done enough to sort Murphy out, be it good cop or bad cop.
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How's it Balding should take some of the blame?
Murphy's a grown man of 29.Balding's not his chaperone. |
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Just hope you are never judged by a jury made up from this Forum!!
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Mr Balding should sack him forthwith, and not continue his association with him. Mr Murphy put a young lady seriously injured in the hospital, and he continued riding and going on his business as if nothing bad had happened to her.
Mr Murphy is responsible for her being in hospital with a serious injury, not the drink. |
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Has he been convicted?
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Mr Murphy is as good as convicted. The chicken sh1t REFUSED to provide a specimen for drink driving. Why not? Hiding another illegal substance perhaps?
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Did he refuse a roadside breathalyser or the one at the station? The roadside one is only a guide, it’s the one at the station that matters (or that used to be the case). Refusing one results in a ban anyway.
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