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By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 07 Jan 24 16:14
We can house, feed and welfare, at £7/8 million per day is it,  all sorts of scrounging foreign bastards who have come here for a free ride yet these hard-working, honest British citizens won;t be paid just compensation.
We should all be making all of our individual M.P.'s lives a misery by badgering them into taking action.
By:
seaside
When: 07 Jan 24 16:25
Where did the money go? were people nicking it at the computer place?
By:
salmon spray
When: 07 Jan 24 16:25
I wasn't going to watch it as in theory I agreed with those who thought an investigative documentary would be more suitable,but in fact it was very well done and has clearly brought a huge scandal into the light : something the mainstream media has failed to do. Private Eye have been banging on about it for years but the others will mention but never really follow up.
Incidentally though the PO bears the main responsibility somebody needs to look into Fujitsu's role in this. At the very least they should never be considered for any other government contract.
By:
impossible123
When: 07 Jan 24 17:27
'seaside', the same question was asked by one of the postmistresses affected to the forensic investigator employed by the Post Office. The forensic investigator stated the "missing money" paid back by some of the affected postmasters/postmistresses was sitting in the account of the Post Office for some time then "absorbed" into their account as profit ie it ended up as profit of the Post Office.

Scandalous!
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 07 Jan 24 18:16
It's the government and Civil Service involvement here that needs ruthless exposing.  People have insisted to the P.O. that they must use any methods whatsoever to obtain convictions and paybacks in every case.  Innocence wasn;t even considered as an option.  It seems clear to me that eventually the government insisted that legal actions be carried through in every case - mo matter the personal cost to those accused.
Deplorable.  Find out who these people are.  Vennels and her sidekick carried it out but on whose commands!!!?????
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 07 Jan 24 18:29
The lawyers made a
KILLING
Silly
By:
MJK
When: 07 Jan 24 18:41
Not like the British justice system to stitch anyone up
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 07 Jan 24 18:48
not half .......out of £59 million ........£12 million left after legal  fees
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 07 Jan 24 18:52

Jan 7, 2024 -- 1:24PM, impossible123 wrote:


Also, Fujitsu will need to answer for their inept software and the part they played in this scandal; Fujitsu did not hold their hand-up and admitted there was inconsistencies and unexplained behaviours in the Horizon software. Fujitsu is a multinational company worth many $bn. I'm sure Fujitsu could contribute to the any future compensation package; Fujitsu in Japanese means faithlessness; inconstancy; insincerity; falsehood.

By:
morpteh mackem
When: 07 Jan 24 18:54
check who was head of fujitsu uk at part of time of scandal , he couldnt be married to a tory minister could he ???
By:
elisjohn
When: 07 Jan 24 18:56
loyal honcho, no doubt about it, Vennels was carrying out order from higher figures in some ways shes the scapegoat imo  certain  she could say a lot of  things , but worth reading the article i put up earlier .     https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12932027/post-office-scandal-itv-drama-gilded-lives.html
By:
impossible123
When: 07 Jan 24 19:07
I think Ms Vennls traded her character and integrity for a "title" and money. Imagine what her remunerations have done for herself and family eg her next posts/children's education and housing/etc.

Not just a serving Conservative Minister linked to Fujitsu, the former Labour Home Sec Mr Jack Straw's wife. She was on the coal face telling untruths to the government and public. These are the scums in high offices.
By:
GoBallistic
When: 07 Jan 24 20:11
Vennells has a lot of questions to answer mainly about the cover-up but her predecessor who was actually in charge for most of the years when everyone was getting screwed over was Adam Crozier. Some might remember him as CEO of the FA before that (he appointed Sven-Goran Eriksson). Apparently he does not feature in the ITV drama but I'm sure this has nothing to do with the fact that he is now CEO at ITV.
By:
elisjohn
When: 07 Jan 24 21:07
Adam Crozier might well have given the go ahead for this prog, he knows if the top people ever get to court this drama will have prejudiced the case against them
By:
swiftynifty
When: 09 Jan 24 13:43
She's handed back her CBE. Now when might she get a knock on the door?
By:
saddo
When: 09 Jan 24 14:02
I expect a few will be chucked under the bus to protect the higher ups, she must have thrown those involved
into panic by giving back the gong.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 09 Jan 24 14:15
I hope she gets hounded everywhere she goes and feels the fear, shame, ignominy, isolation, desolation, etc, that so many of these poor people felt for fifteen years and more.  And let's get van something while we are at it.
And as for Alan Bates.  If cows like Mone and Davidson ( and very nearly Dorries ) can be fast=tracked into the House of Lords then so should he.  He should now be honoured as a peer of the realm.
By:
CagliariG
When: 09 Jan 24 14:28
Agreed honcho and no amount of money can ever compensate those wronged. I am just surprised that nobody including MPs of any party has suggested removing prosecution powers from the Post Office, had this gone through the CPS it would probably have been highlighted a lot quicker that so many were being prosecuted for the same thing.

As to what happens now, I suspect the Met will be looking at conspiracy charges rather than individual indictments i.e conspiracy to pervert the course of justice, easier to nail multiple offenders although the ones guilty of perjury also easily identified individually.
By:
saddo
When: 09 Jan 24 14:29
GoBallistic, Crozier is not ceo of ITV any more.
By:
saddo
When: 09 Jan 24 14:32
CagliariG 09 Jan 24 14:28 
I am just surprised that nobody including MPs of any party has suggested removing prosecution powers from the Post Office

.....................


Anyone can bring private prosecutions I think, of course it helps if you have unlimited funds and go after small fry.
By:
CagliariG
When: 09 Jan 24 14:39
The Post Office have a statutory right saddo and the prosecutions were criminal rather than private as far as I am aware, similar to HMRC etc.
By:
saddo
When: 09 Jan 24 14:49
Does the Post Office have the right to prosecute someone?
Post Office has no special authority to bring private prosecutions. The right to bring a private criminal prosecution is available to both companies and individuals in England and Wales as a result of section 6(1) of the Prosecution of Offences Act 1985.




This must be wrong them
By:
CagliariG
When: 09 Jan 24 14:53
Apologies saddo, that is correct. Was just going by the few reported interviews being conducted under PACE, so yes private in the sense you state but still criminal.
By:
GoBallistic
When: 09 Jan 24 15:01
I stand corrected Saddo. Should have known that from the Philip Schofield fiasco Blush
By:
saddo
When: 09 Jan 24 15:06
The Guardian boss took over, hence the rapid decline into woke output.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 09 Jan 24 15:50
saddo, your grasp of the legal ramifications of anything is very impressive.
By:
1st time poster
When: 09 Jan 24 16:34
1 was asking the same ? as seaside if no one was stealing any money subposties or horizon[ fjitsu employees  and some subbies were making up the wrong balances out of their pockets,if as stated the post office eventually claimed  the excess payments,some people at the post office should like the subbies be charged with THEFT.FRAUD and plod need to arrrest and jail them,just like post office were willing to jail those who they thought had stolen off them
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 09 Jan 24 18:02
agree 1st time poster but these khoonts have friends in high places unlike the sub postmasters.
By:
s.kenbo
When: 09 Jan 24 18:10
It’s amazing what an  impact this TV drama has had. I’m surprised as it used to be on the local news quite a lot, so I presume it was shown on almost every region, yet nothing much was done.
By:
hulk23
When: 09 Jan 24 18:13
She's handed back her CBE. Now when might she get a knock on the door?

handing you fooking CBE back isn't going to bring the dead people back to life.  cnt.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 09 Jan 24 18:52
she has said we are very sorry ..............they are only sorry that they have been tumbled !
By:
CagliariG
When: 09 Jan 24 18:55
Always the case Foyles and usually when they realise the game is up, one of the few I ever stopped for speeding said "Sorry mate I would have slowed down if I had seen you"!!
By:
saddo
When: 09 Jan 24 18:57
I gather she is some kind of priest, does she think her God
forgives her for this disgraceful episode I wonder.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 09 Jan 24 18:58
any normal person knowing that people would be jailed ,losing  homes livelyhood and lives woulda come clean and said its our fault we know theres  a glitch in the system . how they sleep at night is beyond me . one good thing is they might not be sleeping so well now.
By:
swiftynifty
When: 09 Jan 24 18:59
Would she be the first criminal to hide behind the cloth?
By:
CagliariG
When: 09 Jan 24 18:59
This is why I hope the Met go for the conspiracy angle saddo & Foyles, hard to hide for anyone involved including the upper echelon.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 09 Jan 24 19:01
would imagine they will sort out  a way of getting off lightly cag
By:
CagliariG
When: 09 Jan 24 19:10
No doubt they will try Foyles but all down to the Courts as to sentences if any, the beauty of the conspiracy angle is that a thin thread can bring down the house of cards from top to bottom, those at the bottom being given incentives if required.
By:
1st time poster
When: 09 Jan 24 19:24
its got to go above the post office,what benefit do the post office get from defending/hiding the failings in a tech theyve paid millions for,they must have been lent on from a higher power
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 09 Jan 24 19:28
correct me if i am wrong but before the shyte hit the fan wsnt it the post office or there own people who decide how much compo to be awarded ?
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