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I think a lot of the public who fell for project fear don't want to know the truth Tom, best forgotten.
As for Lineker, he's basically said anyone against these migrants is a Nazi, it was emotive and a mistake, he should have retracted. |
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He said the language used was like Germany in the 30's, okay I get what is implied but I've seen miles worse. It all seems a massive mountain from a mole hill, meanwhile all the important stuff is now off front page news.
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Saddo: he said no such thing.That's an interpretation you want to make. Why? Apology expected.
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There might be an upside, I stopped watching football because of all the waffle, especially pre-match, they bore the @rse off me.
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Don't be daft jimmy, everyone knows what he meant.
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The Invasion of The Boat People Crisis - is a nice distraction for all the Daily Mail and Daily Express readers - from all of the other real crises that the country is facing.
You better get used to it - because I am pretty sure it is all we are going to hear about (from one side) in the run up to the general election - you can bet your bottom dollar that nobody in government wants to talk about their record on anything else: The NHS crisis The Energy crisis The Housing crisis The Inflation crisis The cost of living crisis The environment crisis The education crisis The police crisis The nursing crisis The train crisis The Farming crisis The Lobbying crisis The transport crisis The knife crime crisis The Tax crisis The tuition Fees crisis The Brexit crisis The levelling up crisis The social care crisis The pension crisis Far better that we all worry about Gary Lineker, Twitter and the licence fee   |
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Spot on, management. But they don't want to be reminded of their failures.
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To be fair, many of those things have been 30-50 years in the making. Not really blaming just the tories.
Party politics and the short-term thinking that it breeds are the culprits. |
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Easiest job on the planet being part of the shadow cabinet, just wait for the latest iteration of failed politics to give your your chance.
Except while this party in opposition have been waiting such a long time they have watched many of their own policies used by this ‘crisis’ ridden government. Most people know Labour will ‘fall in’…then fall straight back out again after they have done no better. |
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Divide et impera
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Usually gets translated as Divide and Conquer - but the literal translation is Divide and Rule.
i.e. split the opposition so that it ceases to threaten your own power. Leaders who use a divide and conquer strategy may encourage or foster feuds between smaller powers. This kind of political manouvering requires a great understanding of the people who are being manipulated. |
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Heard it all before.
Just come up with these policies that wont fail, dont worry what others do. |
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Policies that won't fail require long-term joined up thinking and co-operation. Party politics does not permit this and has a strong preference for short term sticking plasters with shallow sound bites.
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Saddo: what he meant was what he said; not what you wanted it to mean.
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Aye, whatever, I coudn't gaf really. I don't watch him or the BBC.
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Suella apparently absolutely hates being called Cruella - I think it was his use of the word "cruel" that caused her the most offence.
I can't see much offence in the actual words that he used unless you were looking to be offended - or of course if you twist or change his actual words slightly. Sad days when something that somebody said on Twitter can dominate the "news". |
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Liberalists call it dog whistling. Implying something to your own echo chamber, without being absolutely explicit. Nobody with an IQ above 80 would struggle with the implication of the twatter post.
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Nobody with an IQ above 70 could fail to see the smoke and mirrors deployed to deflect attention away from the economy, inflation, the NHS, Tax rates, Boris' dad, etc, etc, etc.
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I see what you did there.
The BBC does at least have to pretend to be a little bit impartial. It's big beasts are told, as part of their contract, they have to stay out of political arguments in the public domain. This bloke can't manage to do that, even though he is on the biggest grift of them all. |
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Date Joined: 16 Jan 07 Add contact | Send message 10 Mar 23 21:17Joined: 16 Jan 07 | Topic/replies: 7,482 | Blogger: swiftynifty's blog 'MOTD will focus on match action without presentation or punditry' Brillant news, a win win all round. Maybe save a few quid to bid for some proper live sport, like MEN'S football, how about some horse racing. Spot on Swift! Not watched MOTD in over 2 years. Will be watching this evening! No women "commentators" and no "expert" pundits. Get the obscene wages down of these overrated footballers and the game might just be returned back to the working classes  Also their live coverage of Golf & Horse Racing was the best around at one time. |
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The BBC doesn't have any big beasts - everybody that wants to get rich quick or get paid way above the "market rate" is working elsewhere hth - it's called market forces!
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He has wilfully signed up to those conditions. As far as I know, not under duress. It's a function of getting paid via pseudo tax revenue. Given that he is seemingly incapable of keeping his political inclinations out of the public domain, and you argue that he could earn even more away from the BBC, you'd have to question why he persists.
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He wants to increase the tax burden on the plebs while he is in court trying to reduce his own tax bill, doesn't look good.
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Nearly every post on this thread has someone giving an opinion but it seems if you are a paid TV presenter you aren't allowed to do that, even although he posted on his own twitter page, it just seems mad to me.
Tom, if its in the contract he signed beforehand to remain impartial/ non political he cant have many complaints imo. The fact it is a ridiculous piece of legislation is sadly of no consequence. If I was him sat on a pile of cash with the potential to easily fall into another job I would tell them to stick it, maybe he will, maybe MOTD will be a better show without the Pundits. ? |
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...... Any mention of partially blind folk / over 75s still having to pay a licence fee ??
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Hardly ridiculous, he is taking the taxpayer shilling.
The BBC revenue model is no longer fit for purpose. If people weren't compelled by law to subsidise the Lineker millions (whilst he looks down his nose at them) as they want to view live TV from any channel, most people would give a shyte about him. He is much more suited to the sky mob or itv, where he can virtue signal at will. |
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#wouldn't
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If you are genuinely worried about the tax payers shilling - you might do better to focus your attention on the financial activities the last 5 prime ministers and the last 4 Chancellors!
Luckily for you, it won't involve delving too far back into history - because we have had more "changes" recently than a third world banana republic or even Italy ffs! |
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Thread got more interest here than on Football
 reps 106/63 views 2539/1062 at the moment. |
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A nice bit of whataboutary.
What you have referenced is not relevant to the way that the bbc is funded. The fact is that if you don't want to use the BBC output, you are still compelled by law to pay for it, via a regressive tax (as long as you want to watch any live broadcast) |
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I think you will find that "whataboutary" is what it's all about!
Divide and rule - focus on the "Invasion" of the Boat People but lets not discuss: The NHS crisis The Energy crisis The Housing crisis The Inflation crisis The cost of living crisis The environment crisis The education crisis The police crisis The nursing crisis The train crisis The Farming crisis The Lobbying crisis The transport crisis The knife crime crisis The Tax crisis The tuition Fees crisis The Brexit crisis The levelling up crisis The social care crisis The pension crisis It seems to be going well, so far. |
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You might mot like it but the majority of the country sees the invasion of the boat people as a very high priority. But, yet again, not relevant to someone breaking the terms of the contract they wilfully agreed to, and some of the consequences being realised.
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It is a 'high status' opinion to pretend not to be worried about the invasion though. The clever people aren't worried, and like to help those fleeing 'war and torture'. I hope it's nice and sunny up there in your lofty position
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I might not like it any more than you do - but that won't alter that after 13 years in power (including Taking Back Control) the numbers have gone up persistently on their watch!
I'd rather they focus on any of the dozen plus things I have listed and about a dozen more that I have not. Everybody is now instead talking about a washed-up footballer - and I think that suits them just fine! |
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Following a similar issue in 2018, the BBC stated, "Gary is not involved in any news or political output for the BBC and as such, any expression of his personal political views does not affect the BBC's impartiality."
That statement seems to give licence to say whatever he wants. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46566574 |
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Looks like most of the luvvies have come out in support of Lineker, if they don't want the easy money and prestige that goes with "presenting", then sack them all and get people in who don't want to lick his @rse!
Get some old pros in who played in the lower leagues and would welcome the money, which obviously makes no difference to the elite ex players. |
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He wants to increase the tax burden on the plebs while he is in court trying to reduce his own tax bill, doesn't look good.
This is where Lineker has given himself a real headache. He's been insisting that he's a freelancer, and not a BBC employee, while the Revenue begs to differ. They are claiming £5 million in tax off him as a consequence. An excellent defence for Lineker would have been to show that he can make political statements yet not be sacked the way a BBC employee would be. And until now that has been the case. (It's suited the BBC too, as they would be liable for huge unpaid National Insurance contributions, should he lose the case). But this time he came out with something so crass and absurd that the BBC had to cut him adrift, or they'd be in danger of losing the whole TV licence system. So it's turned out that Lineker is subject to the same standards as any other BBC employee, and it's difficult now to so see how he's going to avoid this £5 million tax bill. |
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In my view, the BBC has no right to punish any employee for expressing an opinion on social media or anywhere else that has nothing to do with the BBC. Those rules should only apply to news, politics and current affairs presenters. The statement from 2018 I have posted above seems to confirm that view.
Lineker and others should test the BBC guidelines in court and allow the legal system provide the definitive answer to this question. |
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I'm no expert on contract law - but I'd be amazed if his contract (especially the new one the BBC have served him with) has any explicit rules relating to what he does in his own spare time, at dinner parties, during charity work, his advertising work, etc, etc.
Also, my understanding is that the new contract was not at his request and that he was quite happy being an employee paying via PAYE - it's just another corporation (under siege from the tory party) trying to cut costs by avoiding their tax obligations. I don't think he is actually disputing that the tax is due, I think he is arguing that the BBC are/were responsible for paying it. Anyway, even if all of that is incorrect - as long as the focus is shifted onto him, don't mention: The NHS crisis The Energy crisis The Housing crisis The Inflation crisis The cost of living crisis The environment crisis The education crisis The police crisis The nursing crisis The train crisis The Farming crisis The Lobbying crisis The transport crisis The knife crime crisis The Tax crisis The tuition Fees crisis The Brexit crisis The levelling up crisis The social care crisis The pension crisis |
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If he does that, then he can't use it as a defence against the Revenue, can he?
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