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Go for it, George. Always good reading and insight.
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Afternoon George,
Is Via Serica in your flat notebook? He was in the Ascot sale earlier this week, and my trainer was interested in him as a potential hurdler. But he was taken out of the sale and has been sold privately to Stuart Edmunds, so we can expect to see him over hurdles before long. |
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Thank you, ali1959.
Afternoon Anorak, I did take a close look at him in one of the qualifying runs at Windsor, but I didn't put him in. I may regret it! I see the changed trainer notification is already on the RP website even though he doesn't have any current entries. Maybe he was scratched from a race this week? Also noticed he's still a colt, so a possible source of 'improvement' there if they opt to have him gelded. |
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Yes, he was entered for the 14F maiden handicap at Redcar run on Monday.
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a juvenile thread.
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Good luck GEORGE.
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Thank you stewy.
tyred 03 Jun 22 13:42 a juvenile thread. Allow me to put this right for you. tyred 03 Jun 22 13:42 a profitable thread. Well, hopefully. |
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Love it George, best of luck.
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Cheers the numbers seven
I've just the one qualifier in this. Intriguing Lady, 1pt EW @ 14-1, 4.20 Hexham I'm surprised this one isn't a bigger price. I noted her in February in a Wolverhampton 8.5f seller when I took the view she might win a similar race or low grade handicap on the AW when things pan out more favourably. She ran poorly in two subsequent runs, though might have had excuses, and has since left the Johnstons for just £2000. She now turns up in a juvenile hurdle with stamina and effectiveness on turf to prove, so fair to say I'm not that optimistic about this one, but at least she has joined a yard that can get them ready for juvenile hurdles. David Pipe won this race last season and runs French import Free Chakarte who won twice on the level in her native country and whatever the worth of the form, that surely counts for plenty in this field. Of those with a domestic Flat official rating, National Charter, who didn't last long with the Haggas yard, comes out marginally on top when her 7lb allowance is factored in, just ahead of the Alan King-trained Jad Mahal. National Charter finished ahead of Bukela in a 13-runner, 14f handicap at Wetherby in April when conceding 9lb to that rival, so would appear favoured by today's weights if that form is any guide. Both seemed to show enough to suggest that they should have the stamina for this. It will be interesting to see which way Moonlight Dawn and Quickdrawmcgraw go in the market, coming from stables who can land a punt. |
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Looks like an ungenuine headstrong probable non-stayer to me George. Good luck anyhow!
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My guess would be Bukela for what is worth, perhaps not a lot. Not much cop but looks more or less certain to stay the trip and trainer knows the time of day with Flat horses going jumping.
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Tbh BB, I was expecting her to be 33s, and there's time yet for a drift.
They're trying her in hood again, so hopefully she'll settle better. I thought she kept on well enough given how keen she'd been when finishing third at Wolver, but you're probably right about her temperament. |
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I might be slightly prejudiced against her as I used to own part of her half brother who was one of the most ungenuine animals I have ever had the misfortune to be involved with!
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The horse BB suggested might go well, Bukela, was heavily backed close to the off, and was moving into it nicely when over-jumping at the second last and coming down.
As for Intriguing Lady, after nearly getting rid of the jockey at the first, she tried to put it up to the fav for a fair way, but didn't look enthusiastic between the last two flights when it looked like she might hold on for third, and as with all my best EW bets, she ended up finishing fourth ![]() Running P/L: -2 |
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Bukela would have finished first or second, bit annoying not to get the chance to find out. Winner did it very readily mind. I won't be rushing to back any of the rest of that lot next time out.
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it's a pity that the winner was not tested fully as the jury is out whether it stays the full 2 miles when pushed and against stronger opposition eventually, it will be interesting to see !
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Didn't watch any Hexham so just looked up the result George. Either the winner was above average (good French flat form) or the rest were very moderate.
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it's a pity that the winner (Free Chakarte) was not tested fully as the jury is out whether it stays the full 2 miles when pushed and against stronger opposition eventually, it will be interesting to see !
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sageform, would appear the latter unless the race came too soon for it just six days on.
Well done tyred, nice analysis. |
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Not looking at these races at this time of year. From August on there are a few decent ones running. Good luck though George.
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this thread has had more resurrections than lazarus george....although lazarus only died a death once
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I start one for each new season, chavman, with the P/L returned to zero.
Hope this explains it for you. |
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There is a juvenile hurdle this evening at Newton Abbot, where Ed Dunlop has a rare runner over hurdles. My sole qualifier is the filly who I selected in the opening race of the season at Hexham - Intriguing Lady.
She did show up ok to a point, having tried to put it to the fav, but stamina remains a worry, even though this sharper track may suit better. Also, she didn't look the most resolute between the last two flights when she held every chance of holding onto third place. So a watching brief on this occasion. |
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I thought that stayed on well at the end George despite getting hampered by the faller, although well beaten, she looked like she ran through the line. Maybe she has got a weak novice race in her during the summer or would you wait till it goes handicapping?
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the numbers seven, it looked like she was going to finish last when they turned into the home straight, but then the carnage at the second last and she's somehow managed to finish second. At least it seemed she stayed the trip when ridden with restraint round a sharp track, albeit in a race lacking any depth.
Tbh, I'm not sure I'll be selecting her again, especially now I've missed the chance to get back the two pts back I lost on her at Hexham! The yard do run the odd one on the Flat, so maybe a low grade AW race may be their best chance of getting a win out of her, imo. |
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It's the first 3YO hurdle of the season in Ireland today but I don't have any qualifiers running.
However, I thought I'd bring the thread back up anyway cuz there's a horse running at Haydock today who I wonder if we'll see running in juvenile hurdles at some point, and it's the Alan King-trained Paradias (4.00 Haydock). He's a son of Kodiac whose progeny aren't usually associated with the jumps game, but this German-bred clearly has more stamina than the average son of that stallion. Paradias looks a nice type physically and has already shown himself to be useful on the Flat with an official rating of 84, and he's got the RPR improver arrow next to his name to show that he has been progressing. A tougher race for him today than last time, but I hope he wins because I've selected him on my Flat thread! |
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3.40NA
The form shown by the first two in the betting is nothing special. I think Beerenberg was undone by fitness first time out, so backing him to be too strong for the fillies. Backed at 18-1 |
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Good luck DG.
Intriguing Lady, 1pt win @ 12-1, 3.40 Newton Abbot My only qualifier is Intriguing Lady, who was selected in the opening race of the juvenile hurdle season at Hexham where she finished 4th behind the easy winner and today's rival Free Chakarte. She ran an odd sort of race last time over C/D when looking booked for last place turning into the home straight, but after the clear leader departed at the second last she somehow managed to finish second. She looks up against it with Free Chakarte even on 7lb better terms, and in turn with Mucuna who beat that rival at Aintree. However, Intriguing Lady probably was helped by the sharper track and waiting tactics last time, and in the hope she continues to progress with experience, gets a tentative vote. She finished ahead of the only other runner in this, Beerenberg, last time over C/D, but as DG says, it's possible fitness was an issue and he obviously wasn't helped by being hampered by the loose horse two out when in second place. |
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GL George, let's hope one of us beats the shorties!
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Thought the pipe horse was undone by the quick turnaround when beaten at Aintree. Expect her to take some pegging back in a 4-runner contest around Newton.
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Dire!
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Big sale in France yesterday - have a look at this 3yo in the Aga Khan colours winning an 11F maiden at a provincial track called Craon:
https://www.equidia.fr/courses/2022-06-13/R3/C4 Nicholls paid 255,000 euros for that one! He'll presumably already be in the Triumph Hurdle betting. |
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Thanks for the link, Anorak.
Not sure what the form is worth as it looked a steady pace and they've finished in a bit of a heap, but he looks a big scopey sort. |
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Running P/L: -3
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Rolypolymoly, 1pt win @ 8-1, 2.36 Stratford
My only qualifier in this is Rolypolymoly, who I noted on his reappearance at Pontefract in April over one mile (g/s) when he endured quite a tough trip having been caught three wide in a race where the first three raced round the inner, and he didn't shape too badly in the circumstances. He then ran well to finish in the first four in a couple of starts when keeping on over 10f at Nottingham and Leicester. He seemingly disappointed on his latest start at Salisbury when trying 12f for the first time when finishing only 6th of the 7 runners, but it looked a messy race (just over 4l covered the field at the finish) with not much pace on and he didn't get the clearest of runs a furlong out. That said, the first two home, Caius Chorister and Wagga Wagga, have franked the form emphatically since. Rolypolymoly looks like he's got a bit of size about him and despite being by a speed influence he evidently takes more after his dam's side when it comes to stamina. He doesn't appear to do anything quickly so not sure this is the ideal track for him, but otherwise he looks an interesting recruit to juvenile hurdling. |
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Been well backed George, those with form don't set a very high standard imo.
Done mine e/w 4 places. |
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Shipton Moyne could be the next Mysilv
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Mucuna4 me,also had a cover bet on Rolypoly at 8/1
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Well done tanglefoot.
I was a bit worried about the sharp track for Rolypolymoly on quickish ground and I think that did prove to be the case, but he stayed on nicely for second, albeit no match for the winner. Running P/L: -4 |