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This Plaice Is Filthy Too!
This Plaice Is Filthy Too!
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The 18:50 Bath and the 19:30 Dundalk look the best of a bad bunch for this kind of betting today - nothing really doing for me. GL.
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That's a shame 37, all the best for the future.
I agree TM there's not much filth again. 3.10 York (dead 8), 3.30 Worc, 6.50 Bath and 7.30 Dun are all on my dusty list. |
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Morning.
I've got a few races on my list to keep tabs on. 1.00 Perth, 6.05 new and 7.15 new. |
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Morning Jon - I have got nothing solid - all three of the stakes races at Newmarket (17:30, 18:05 & 19:15) look a bit dusty - but they also all look a little bit "lurky". They are the sort of races I would be happier about playing if there was something solid/confident to double them up with - hopefully we get a "standout" one day soon! GL
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Deja Vu (all over again) - a handful of mildly dusty races and nothing that stands out (to me) as a banker to couple them up with.
Obviously there was no banker yesterday either - but the three "dusty" races all resulted in places at 5/1, 11/2 & 15/8 - so it's always a bit irritating to see the running-on place money racking up but not have had anything to couple them up with in EW doubles. Nothing for me today. |
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Morning TM. I ended up backing Magical Land last night at 15/8 in what looked the best race of the day to me but they fav won well in the end. Got the plaice though.
Dusty list today is 1.15 Newb, 1.50 Newb, 2.55 Newb and 3.20 at HQ. No filth again it seems thinner on the ground than ever at the min. |
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Scratch that 1.50 from the list it hasn't got a speck of dust on it !!
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Hi Jon - agree the 13:15, 14:55 & 15:20 are the best of a bad bunch today - but that still just doesn't make them good enough (for me) to play in EW singles. It really has been slim pickings lately. GL mate.
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2ns favs in today's dusty races didn't do too bad again. 1.15 2nd 7/4, 2.55 won 5/2 and 3.20 2nd 11/4
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Hi Jon - both the 17:40 and the 18:15 at Kilbeggan went to the full-on proper filthy selections - but I couldn't bring myself to play either of them in EW singles! - Managed to get on the winner (EW) for a nice few quid in the 13:15 Newbury (Achelois) but screwed that up pretty badly on the price - then unfortunately decided to swerve the 14:55 there as well.
Would likely have played all of those if there was a "standout" to couple them up with. Happy with the single (13:15) but all in all, another day of what might have been. Catch you tomorrow. |
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Morning all. Yet another thin day. I liked the look of Ebro River 6.05 at Donny but the 5/2 is long gone and it's the dead 8. 3.20 Thirsk was the next on my list, dead 8 again so i'll just wait and see there. I'll keep an eye on the 1.55 Nav as well but my ventures across the Irish Sea are few and far between these days. A few specks of dust but no filth that I can see.
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Hi Jon - I have got nothing again for this thread.
I liked the same as you Ebro River (18:05) but only at the (fictional) tissue price and the early prices are now long gone (and as you say - couldn't really be taken EW due to the NR fear factor). I thought the 17:15 Uttoxeter was worth a second look as a possible EW bet to nothing at 4/1 - but it's NH, it's a dead-5 runners and the trainer is 1 from 116  . Looks like another day of place laying in the Handicaps for me. GL. |
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Another decent day for the dusty 2nd favs. 3.20 Thirsk won 11/4, 6.05 Donny won 13/8
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Morning. Same old story today for me. No filth. I'll keep and eye on 4.35 Ripon (dead 8 ) with four of the eight runners complete rags at 66/1 plus it might have some dust on it.
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Morning Jon - you know it's pretty grim for filth when you find yourself double checking a Novice Chase at Wexford!
I really quite liked First Light in that Ripon race (16:35) - but a couple of things have stopped me from playing it. As ever - the dead-8 runners means we can't take an early price for fear of a non-runner changing the place terms (so all the 11/4+ is now long gone). Also have a slight concern about the form of the yard - Gosden usually operates at about 20% but has only had 2 winners from his last 30 runners (and those winners were the brilliant Palace Pier & the potentially brilliant Derab). So that raises the other familiar dilemma - it's too short to back EW, so we need a drift near the off (when it looks like 8 still run) - but do we want to be backing a late drifter from a yard that isn't in the best of form? - the game can drive you mad! - Day off (from the filthy EW's) here imo. GL |
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A bit annoying to see First Light win so easily - but 11/10 in a 7 horse race is not nearly the same as 11/4 in an 8 horse race!
 Tomorrow looks potentially the best day for a long time with 4 UK flat cards that aren't all handicaps - but it again looks like if there are a couple of (ground related) Non-runners it could scupper the day. Here's hoping not. |
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Morning all. I'm off to Redcar today and it looks like there could be a filthy dead 8 with the novice at 2.30. Two problems though it's the dead 8 again and the horse was awful last time out. Other than that I've got two other dead 8's (3.20 and 3.55 Carlisle) down as dusty.
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Have a good day Jon - but the 14:30 at Redcar (arguably the filthiest EW race of the day) is predictably already scuppered by NR's!
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2.30 down to 7 runners so that's the end of that unless you play on here. GL
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Kind of glad in a way about the 14:30 to be honest - the maths/shape dictates that Copper Queen would have had to be the EW bet (if 8+ ran) - and I was struggling badly to warm to it enough to make my day revolve around it as an EW banker. A bit relieved that the decision has been taken out of my hands.
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Pleased to have swerved this 14:30 Redcar (due to NR's rather than good judgement) - but the race and the market for the places is fascinating - the friendless and more exposed Copper Queen has her best form on soft/heavy - the Botti horse (Fire In The Rain) finished 3rd behind the horse that finished 3rd in the Oaks trial! - and surely there is better to come from Ghazaaly at some point. An excellent puzzle - but too hard for me!
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the irony eh 2 non runners who da thunked it .
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Hi Geoff - pretty chuffed about the NR's to be honest - I couldn't (on principle) have let an 8 runner race with a 1/5 fav pass me by without betting something EW - but really didn't like Copper Queen much - so happy enough to have the NR's solve any dilemma.
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A bit concerned about the drop down to 7f - but I have had a half-stake EW on Victorious Knight at 4/1 (15:20 Carlisle)
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Yep The Management over the years some of the 8/9 runner e/w steals against short odds on end up invariably in a 7 runner event due to non runners .
TO the extent i wondered if there was an element of skullduggery on the bookmakers side . Cynic that i am. The greatest of all time i can recall Was New Morning Very well bred filly of Michael Jarvis went off 1/16 in 8 runner field 2nd fav was 25s |
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Backed it on here by the way - in anticipation of the inevitable NR!
17-May-21 14:57:39 15:20 Carlisle Victorious Night - Each Way Betfair Bet ID 1:233583085xxx | Matched: 17-May-21 14:57:39 Back 4.90 |
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Might be lucky to get 6 runners here!
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I can live with that - thought I had done my dough after just a furlong
 - eventually went 1.18 in running |
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Kraken Filly - to give the boys something to think about in this 15:55 Carlisle
One stake EW at (average) 3.25 |
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It's a massive drifter - but I have had a stake EW on Thaler (18:35 Leicester) at 4.00 (sorry about after-timing the price).
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Another one goes 1.1x in running - but he's bumped into one there I think!
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Probably went a bit "action" crazy after over a week without having a thread bet - but hit a couple of crossbars today (with a 1.18 & a 1.16 in running) but only ended up with two seconds and a third - so didn't actually score any goals!
Todays Filthy EW Thread bets: 15:20 Carlisle: Victorious Knight - Each Way - Half Stakes - backed at 4.90 - 2nd at 4/1 ISP = - 0.11 15:55 Carlisle: Kraken Filly - Each Way - One Stake - backed at 9/4 - 3rd at 5/2 ISP = - 0.55 18:35 Leicester: Thaler - Each Way - One Stake - backed at 3/1 - 2nd at 5/2 ISP = - 0.40 Daily Thread Bet Total P&L: - 1.06 Running Thread Bet Total P&L: + 4.03 My Filthy Each Way thread bets to date: 06th April - 17:00 Chelmsford: Buxted Too - Each Way - One Stake - 1st at ISP 10/3 = + 4.00 07th April - 14:00 Lingfield: Lost Eden - Each Way - One Stake - 1st at ISP 2/1 (backed EW at average 3.625) = + 3.15 15th April - 19:25 Newcastle: Baby Alya - Each Way - Half-Stake - took 5/1 - 3rd at ISP 5/1 = + 0.00. 25th April - 15:10 Wetherby: Miquelon - Each Way - One Stake - took 4/1 - 2nd at 15/8 ISP = -0.20 28th April - 13:50 Wolverhampton: Final Watch - Each Way - Half Stake - took 3.75 - 5th at 9/4 ISP = - 1.00 28th April - 17:10 Chelmsford: Just Beautiful - Each Way - Half Stake - took 9/4 - 1st at 6/4 ISP = + 1.35 03rd May - 16:16 Windsor: Bringsty - Each Way - Half Stake - took 4/1 - 5th at 4/1 ISP = -1.00 08th May - 16:35 Lingfield: Persaria - Each Way - 1.5 Stakes - backed at average 5.25 - 2nd at 7/2 ISP = - 0.23 08th May - 16:35 Lingfield: Swiss Flamingo - Each Way - Half Stake - backed at 50/1 - 8th at 40/1 ISP = -1.00 17th May - 15:20 Carlisle: Victorious Knight - Each Way - Half Stakes - backed at 4.90 - 2nd at 4/1 ISP = - 0.11 17th May - 15:55 Carlisle: Kraken Filly - Each Way - One Stake - backed at 9/4 - 3rd at 5/2 ISP = - 0.55 17th May - 18:35 Leicester: Thaler - Each Way - One Stake - backed at 3/1 - 2nd at 5/2 ISP = - 0.40 The losing fractions from the places soon mount up if the feckers keep getting touched off! |
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A strange day yesterday - lots of fairly dusty races and a few winners (Jewel In My Crown was probably the most annoying swerve) but I opted not to play any of them.
Today EW bets look very thin on the ground - in the 18:35 Kempton the shape of the betting indicates Super One maybe ought to be the EW bet - but the two races where he has finished runner up have gone on to produce absolutely zilch imo - so unless gelding and some blinkers make a big difference to him, I'd be more interested in laying than playing. All in all - Grim stuff (for EW filthsters) today imo. GL. |
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Todays racing sums up whats wrong with British racing ......utter dross.......
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I know it's a bit counterintuitive given the title of the thread and the shape of the betting - but I did (in the Opening Post) say there might be some place only lays and/or backs.
18:35 Kempton: Super Over - Place Layed - to lose one stake - at average 1.65 |
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I'll get me coat
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Off to Dunstall park today...............2-30 & 3-10 offer some potential..........
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Have a good day Skip! - with 10 & 9 runners respectively, I have already played both those races at the early prices in the hope that 8 of them might manage to go into the stalls!:
14:30 Wolves: Algheed - Each Way - One stake - backed at 9/4 15:05 Wolves: Another Dawn - Each Way - One stake - backed at 3/1 Still smarting from Super Over (18:35 Kempton) yesterday - blindly following the maths would have yielded at least + 4.20 but being the fookin genius that I am - I managed to turn that into -1.00 instead! Yeterdays' Dusty Each Way Thread Bet: 18:35 Kempton: Super Over - Place Layed - to lose one stake - at average 1.65 - 1st at 3/1 ISP = -1.00 Daily Thread Bet Total P&L: - 1.00 Running Thread Bet Total P&L: + 3.03 |
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Backed both of those ................will be an interesting day.......Ludlow on Monday and 3 days at Haydock planned next week so soon nack in the swing,,,,,
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Morning all. I'm with you on the 3.05. Gonna keep an eye on the 5.40 Chelmsford. 7.25 has a nice shape but FTO and dead 8. GL
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