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IF AIDEN IS A GOD, HOW COME HIS SONS CAN WIN GROUP1S STRAIGHT AWAY
IF AIDEN IS A GOD, HOW COME HIS SONS CAN WIN GROUP1S STRAIGHT AWAY
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No I didn't think you would. You would have needed deep pockets.
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Crikey didn't know this thread was still going , surely run its course hasn't it ?
The eventual outcome looks destined though for nobody to change their mind , believe what they've posted themselves and meanwhile Aiden will keep on winning the vast majority of the races that really matter. Good punting all  |
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I do not think AOB/Coolmore would seek the judiciary to decide on their position in a sport they dominate against a nobody like yours truly who's not a professional pundit/presenter for fear of opening another can of worms that could be as deadly as Civid-19 for themselves and the sport.
You have your interpretation and perception of their multiple runners strategy, and I have mine. We'll only agree to disagree...but prudent to be cautious where betting is concerned. |
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*duck
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Libelous I`d say.
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Have to wait for Johnny Depp to finish first. I've called them crooks for years and I am not about to change my beliefs any time soon. And it appears I am nowhere near the only one with Sheikh Fahad and Bjorn Neilson speaking up. I bet the list is of witness's is endless.
You will be witness wouldn't you Try? What about you Impossible? |
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Don`t ask him he`s never been circumcised.
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I'd donate to any social-funding to normalise the Coolmore mob.
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Would be great if it went to Court brigust. The forum could dine out on it for ages. I call Brigust to give evidence in his defence. Followed by the judge's final statement. "Take him down"
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It ain't gonna happen Try. But what may happen is that AOB may make particularly certain that team tactics are not possible. He just may go out of his way to ensure his jockeys do not shut off other horses (English King) or push out other horses (Churchill) or let stable companions have a clear run (Santiago).
I am pleased to see others feel the same as I have for a long time, irrespective of the pro Ballydoye bandwagon, and they are now prepared to speak up. We may well get many more to follow. In fact we may just get some accurate results. I will be watching closely. |
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theyre winning every effing race, with allsorts
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If someone says 'I don't do this and that', surely one is allowed to think/say I don't believe him.
Just because someone is loaded doesn't give them carte blanche to spout any old bowlocks................m'lud  |
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brigust1 wrote:
It ain't gonna happen Try. But what may happen is that AOB may make particularly certain that team tactics are not possible. He just may go out of his way to ensure his jockeys do not shut off other horses (English King) or push out other horses (Churchill) or let stable companions have a clear run (Santiago). --------------------------------------------- As far as I can see English King (dr 1) swerved left at the start and then Frankie straightened him up and settled in behind Mogul (dr 2). That position was maintained until turning into the straight where Frankie moved EK from off the rails and at the same time Mogul went 2/3 lengths clear of him. It took over 3f for English King to catch and pass Mogul near the winning post. As far as I can see it was the draw and the swerve that left EK in behind Mogul and he failed to quicken when Mogul did, at no time did I see any AOB jockeys trying to shut off EK during the race. |
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English King was poorly ridden which is not a surprise when you consider the pilot.
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The ride on English King was poor similarly Kameko. The jockeys on both were watching each other, and AOB's principal runner Mogul. Then realised they'd been sold a dummy, and the bird had flown.
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You obviously have a different TV from me Kevo. And you have difficulty following the narrative.
My main point was that Beggy brought Vatican City across to block English King in a pocket. Martin Dwyer on Pyledriver was in that position but Beggy muscled him out of it. English King was then in a Ballydoyle pocket until they reached the home straight. Some poor souls more intelligent than me will say it was accidental whereas I think it was by design. If you look at the race it was Ballydoyle against Kameko and English King. They ran a front runner to ensure it would be difficult for Kameko to stay and they blocked in English King. As I have said you may think it was accidental but they are the facts, like it or not. And I don't like it. |
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Is this thread still going???? In the Derby virtually all the jockeys misjudged the pace. Not sure you can prove anything from this race.
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Good morning Honcho. I thought so too. Just been getting rid of an old Aga, came in and there it was. Not the Aga you understand.
And, like you, I had to respond. Have a nice day.  |
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Greetings Brigust. I look forward to your King George conspiracy theory tomorrow evening after Enable get beat.
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I can see little chance of that how that AOB has had his knuckles metaphorically rapped. Two horse race for me and probably everyone else. What could go wrong?
 I have been in and around horseracing all my life and if anyone thinks trainers do not look for chinks in their opponent's armour then they are sadly mistaken. And quite right too as long as it isn't associated with team tactics. And even then the facts may be interpreted differently from one viewer to another. Then common sense comes in I suppose. What would be interesting is what the trainer tells the jockeys. If you watch the Derby the 3rd horse, AOB's, ridden by Buick slows the pace just as they start coming down the hill and allows the winner a long lead. Why would he do that? He then gets after him entering the home straight and finished a very surprising third. Even he capitalised on the slow pace adding to it himself as well. Was that by design? |
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Team tactics or no team tactics the time for the race was comparable (allowing for going variations) with all winners over the last ten years. The best probably being Golden Horn and the worst Ruler of the world.
Like it or not and surprising a result it may have been but the winner ran a time good enough to win the race and the others on the day were not good enough and I do not subsribe to the notion that world class jockeys in behind misjudged the pace or that they were"stopped" from running their race. If that were the case I would expect the race time to be "slow" but it wasn`t. |
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Let's just wait and see how the 2nd and the third get on in their next races, shall we? That is if they dare to run them again.
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Beaten over five lengths Group 3 or Listed at best.
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I think O'Brien senior can trump his sons in the biggies tomorrow ie Matron Stakes and The Leger. He'd take the Park Stakes too with Wichita on prevailing better ground. I'd like to see Limato win but he might have his glory days already.
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oh no another one, group1 over a mile
theres far far too many now , |
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aiden no genius, his son can do win classics , group1 no problem.
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joseph another group1
, unreal to be honest |
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The son of God was pretty good as well wasn't he, walked on water and all that!
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What a day for then O'Brien clan. Truly remarkable
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makes you wonder , doesnt it, in all honesty
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containated feed seems the answer, this stable will never be in the class of henrys , warren hill
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